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[Servant of Christ]

Are the Scriptures sufficient for your salvation? The Apostles said they are.

Does being "wise unto" something mean possessing that thing? Or perhaps knowing about it generally, or how it works, or something else? Does that guarantee salvation?

Like I said above, even if Paul is only referring to the Old Testament

Thank you for admitting you were taking Paul out of context.

They did exactly that. Though not just one book, but a full body of works, meant to correct and lead the church.

... so they actually didn't, as you yourself just proved with that comment. As much as you wish they did. I'm honestly getting a bit tired of people not being precise with their language. It's bordering on maliciousness. You shouldn't be so desparate to "win" a debate that you intentionally mis-represent the saying or teachings of Christ or the Apostles. I promise, even if it helps you "win", you will lose in the end. Also, that "body of works" was later compiled by who? The Holy Fathers, Councils, and the Orthodox Church. Next.

We want to avoid the error of anachronism, so we do not intepret the 1st century Scriptures according to 8th century councils. We want to know what the Apostles meant in their own context. When you say "living tradition", you essentially mean the same thing as liberals when they say the Constitution is "a living, breathing document." As for turning the Bible into an idol, can God's Word be an idol?

If you truly want those things I have amazing and wonderful news! You need only consult with the one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Orthodox Church which has been faithfully uphoding the teachings of Christ and the Apostles since the day of Pentecost.

Would you like me to help you locate a nice Orthodox Church nearby? I'm being a little bit snarky but also 100% serious. I am certain you would enjoy and learn a lot by attending a Divine Liturgy and speaking with an Orthodox Priest. And if you are certain in your beliefs there is nothing to lose or fear by trying, right?

Anyway...

Take care & God bless my brother.

In Christ,

SoC