

Dear Crypto & Fiat Bros - An open letter to the confused and dismissive. | dergigi.com
The coin is dead, long live the coin!

Because we keep making all time highs and they lash out, having no argument against the most pristine asset in the world.I don't have a horse in this bitcoin race but you haters/anti-crypto guys are really clogging up this thread.
If you have such an intense dislike and aren't open to discussion, why not go make another 'evils of bitcoin, pros of fiat currency' thread?
We've addressed this before. There are few things "needed" but most people don't want to live in grass huts and living hand to mouth every day. Do you think about things before you post them? Or just type whatever comes into your head that's already been fully explained and makes no sense for you to say?Nobody needs bitcoin as evidenced by the 8.1 billion humans who have none.
I should make a counter on how many things you get wrong. Bad money, printable money, is the reason why we have things we enjoy?No, quite the opposite, fiat has been around since atleast the 10th Century and gave birth to every modern convenience you enjoy (including bitcoin). It has a proven track record that cannot be argued with, "but nonetheless she persisted."
Another tally for the counter. Cash is so king that the number of dollars you need to buy a BTC, or sat, keeps going up? What a king, worth less and less over time. Hmmmm, seems like someone on this thread, or many, have tried to tell you this OVER and OVER.As of today, 7/10/25, cash is King, so please stick with the facts.
It IS money, thus can't have one. And that premium is what we are seeing priced in real time, and will continue to see that pricing for the next 10-20 years.Does bitcoin have a monetary premium?
0% with strike...you can send in one currency to another strike account in a foreign country from fiat to fiat, no conversion is necessary (it is instantaneously converted to bitcoin, sent on the network, and re-converted to local fiat, with no fee)How much would I lose using bitcoin to transfer from domestic bank account to a foreign one, obviously with a FX conversion? Rough percentage.
That might be the best "why Bitcoin?" explainer I've encountered. Definitely worth the read.View attachment 22403
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Dear Crypto & Fiat Bros - An open letter to the confused and dismissive. | dergigi.com
The coin is dead, long live the coin!dergigi.com
No experience with them - it depends on what you are trying to do.Interactive brokers
Yes or no?
No experience with them - it depends on what you are trying to do.
Buy bitcoin? Strike or River
Bitcoin self directed IRA? Unchained
Bitcoin collaterlized loans? Ledn or Strike
If you don't own it while the pricing goes on, you'll benefit less over time by not taking advantage of the ignorance and lack of vision of others.
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Dear Crypto & Fiat Bros - An open letter to the confused and dismissive. | dergigi.com
The coin is dead, long live the coin!dergigi.com
Crypto does not compare to Bitcoin. If you want to compare Bitcoin to something else, compare it to fire, the number zero, the wheel, the printing press, or electricity. Yes, it is that important. It is an autopoietic network that is internally stable and can't go bankrupt. The antidote to the corruption of money.
Because the future has not come yet? It’s been 15 years. It will take centuries. Did the first Venetian merchants to use the number 0 envision calculus, relativity or computing? Did the first cave men to use fire imagine cars with internal combustion engines, or rockets taking men to the moon?Try to imagine the modern world without the following: fire, the number zero, the wheel, the printing press, electricity. With any of these things absent, the world suddenly looks much different.
Now imagine the world without Bitcoin. Does it look any different whatsoever? Can anyone seriously make that claim?
The delusions of the Bitcoin maxis are truly something to behold.
It's equally difficult to imagine that a distributed ledger internet protocol designed in 2009 will be relevant ten or twenty years from now, much less hundreds. All of those other inventions/discoveries were improved upon substantially over time (even the use of fire and the number zero), but Bitcoin, by its design and your admission, is immutable. Immutability and longevity do not go hand in hand.Bitcoin is just the foundation, the spark. What is built with it is unknowable until people build it.
It is difficult to imagine what changes will come, only that there will be changes, and they will be profound.
Actual picture of a Bitcoin infiltrating the fiat kingdom:Just like the internet, the Trojan horse bitcoin is already inside the walls of every fiat kingdom. It can’t be shut down, it can’t be stopped. The people who use it can’t be stopped, or stolen from. Yes they can be killed, but that gains the killer nothing. The only way to get it is cooperation. Force will yield nothing at all. Governments that fight bitcoin, and insist on their fiat slave tokens will wither and die as their currencies collapse into nothing.
How are those things exclusive? Gravity and the speed of light are immutable and still around.It's equally difficult to imagine that a distributed ledger internet protocol designed in 2009 will be relevant ten or twenty years from now, much less hundreds. All of those other inventions/discoveries were improved upon substantially over time (even the use of fire and the number zero), but Bitcoin, by its design and your admission, is immutable. Immutability and longevity do not go hand in hand.
Yes. A genetic mutation that swept Cro-magnon man, to find collectibles like seashells and shiny things that other men would also want. A penchant for collecting otherwise useless items that allowed our ancestors to cooperate in groups larger than Dunbar’s Number, outcompeting Neanderthals and eliminating their kind from the gene pool. Money is belief. That is all it is - there is no intrinsic value, no “other use case”. It is valued because someone else will value it for its utility and value as money - not as emergency toilet paper or decoration.Maxis like to claim that Bitcoin is based on math, or physics, or the fundamental laws of the universe. The truth is much more basic and embarrassing: Bitcoin is based simply on human belief.
Yes it can be changed, and forcked, and still be bitcoin. If enough people agree that a forck is in their interest, they will use it. Linux has been updated thousands of times, and it is still working 40 years later on phones, routers, computers, thermostats, and myriad other devices. TCP/IP…still working. Absolute scarcity can only be discovered once. There won’t be another bitcoin - the bitcoin we already have will be changed to suit.It's a popularity token, nothing more. And since Bitcoin is incapable of changing (without being forked - which defeats the purpose and robs it of all of its touted virtues) it will eventually fall out of favor as new technologies emerge and people become excited by other ways of making money.
It will be an internet protocol that is still relevant in the same way that email is an internet protocol invented in the 1970s that is still relevant 50 years later.distributed ledger internet protocol designed in 2009 will be relevant ten or twenty years from now
We've officially moved from comparing Bitcoin to fire, electricity, and the printing press to gravity and the speed of light. What's next, retconning Bitcoin into the creation story alongside Adam and Eve?How are those things exclusive? Gravity and the speed of light are immutable and still around.
Tell that to the Bitcoin Cash advocates.Yes it can be changed, and forcked, and still be bitcoin.
And lo and behold, the relevance and usefulness of email has been steadily declining over the past two decades as alternative technologies have eclipsed it (smartphones and a myriad of social media apps/sites). Oh, and how's your landline telephone doing these days? That was once a universal and indispensable network that literally underpinned the global economy. Now it's an afterthought, a relic. The network effect is extremely powerful and seems insurmountable - until it isn't.It will be an internet protocol that is still relevant in the same way that email is an internet protocol invented in the 1970s that is still relevant 50 years later.
Bitcoin is a lie machine.Bitcoin is a truth machine.
No it doesn't.Bitcoin replaces fiat.