Anti-ICE Riots Thread

Thomas More said:
If you were a cop, you think people should be allowed to back up, turn towards you, then drive forward and actually hit you, but it's ok because you can try to jump out of the way?

If I were a cop, I would not find this acceptable. I would want people to know driving a car towards cops means bullets.
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I don't think the decision to shoot citizens should be made based on what kind of messaging it sends but about legality and the reality of the situation.

That said I know little about legality in this situation and ultimately I don't know what was going through the agent's head. It could be that his perception was that he was a split second away from being killed, necessitating the shoot. However if he was a split second away from dying at that distance from the car, you would think that he still would been violently injured from the momentum of the vehicle threatening his life even if the driver was shot.

To me it looks a lot like he went out there on a hair trigger ready to blast someone and he found his reason. The woman certainly brought it on herself by her actions, legally we'll see what happens but I don't think it looks good for the agent and it is really really bad for Trump admin PR. Frankly I am concerned the country is going to slide down a very slippery slope here but maybe there's nothing that can be done. God protect us.
 
It’s probably not going to change anyone’s mind no matter how clear the footage is.

I’m too old to argue with people on the Internet, but I already know half the nation thinks that ice agents are not real police officers and it’s OK it should be perfectly legal to ignore their orders or obstruct their vehicles. Because ice agents are Gestapo and if you were helping illegal aliens, evade the Gestapo, you were like anyone helping jews evade the holocaust.

There’s no point in arguing with that sort of stupidity.

The bigger question is this: is there any realistic way to dismantle the fraud machine that keeps all of this(illegal aliens, rampant fraud) running?
 
eradicator said:
It’s probably not going to change anyone’s mind no matter how clear the footage is.

I’m too old to argue with people on the Internet, but I already know half the nation thinks that ice agents are not real police officers and it’s OK it should be perfectly legal to ignore their orders or obstruct their vehicles. Because ice agents are Gestapo and if you were helping illegal aliens, evade the Gestapo, you were like anyone helping jews evade the holocaust.

There’s no point in arguing with that sort of stupidity.

The bigger question is this: is there any realistic way to dismantle the fraud machine that keeps all of this(illegal aliens, rampant fraud) running?
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It's really too late in the game to not know how to interpret police interactions. Almost none of them are ambiguous. There is the rare and horrendous Daniel Shaver type of executions, but that is extremely rare and very obvious.
 
It doesn’t look like she wanted to run the cop over, she had a chance to run a cop over earlier in the video when she watched him walk around the front of her car. As soon as the other cop comes over and says get out of the car, she starts driving away and turning her wheels to the right. She is trying to flee.

Not saying what the cop did was wrong, I don’t know the intricacies of the law, she seems like an unruly threat to the public at that point, but all the people who are screaming “CASE CLOSED SHE WANTED TO RUN THEM OVER” are being disingenuous at best, and are mouth breathing retards at worst.
 
If your argument is “she’s just a really bad driver and didn’t mean to hit the federal agent with her car, and just thought it would be OK to run away to escape”, it’s still attempted murder
 
aero said:
It doesn’t look like she wanted to run the cop over, she had a chance to run a cop over earlier in the video when she watched him walk around the front of her car. As soon as the other cop comes over and says get out of the car, she starts driving away and turning her wheels to the right. She is trying to flee.

Not saying what the cop did was wrong, I don’t know the intricacies of the law, she seems like an unruly threat to the public at that point, but all the people who are screaming “CASE CLOSED SHE WANTED TO RUN THEM OVER” are being disingenuous at best, and are mouth breathing retards at worst.
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Her partner-in-sexual-deviancy and the cop shooter were both approaching from the passenger side and she must have been aware as they were both taunting the ICE officers around them. The ICE officer shooter was stationary on the passenger side front quarter panel / quadrant when she reversed her vehicle against orders from the driver side ICE officer, with whom she was talking casually, which re-oriented the front of her car toward the ICE officer shooter, then she accelerated and turned into him.

While it's remotely possible she was not aware of the presence of an ICE officer she and her partner-in-sexual-deviancy had just been talking to and taunting, that was her responsibility to be aware of what's around her vehicle as well as to follow instructions and exit the vehicle, and not to flee, which is what she did, striking the ICE officer shooter.
 
dicknixon72 said:
This is a Rorschach test for people. You either think the ICE agent is a dirty vile Nazi gestapo piece of filth Nazi Nazi scumbag pig murdering Nazi or you don't. No other video will convince certain people otherwise.
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What is really bad about social media in this case is that so many people express their incorrect or inappropriate responses to controversial situations, either counter-signaling their leaders or diluting the effect of their leaders' responses by giving ammunition to their opponents through their absurd ejaculations.

There have been tons of people on the right who either mis-interpreted this easy-to-discern shooting, celebrated the death of the woman, or tried to tone police the people who responded appropriately because of their correct interpretation that she was the enemy and earned her consequences.

In the past, all these people would not be induced to express their opinions and, if they wanted to, they would have echoed briefly in the near-void of their local bar or living room before dissipating into nothingness.

Achieving unity on the right is looking like a very difficult task. I think it's only going to happen according to the model we have from the few cases where it's already been achieved by competent leaders, such as Thomas Rousseau, Mark Collett, Martin Sellner, Thomas Sewell, Eric Orwoll and maybe a few others outside the Anglosphere.
 
Iakobos said:
Bad kill. The ICE agent is out of the way of the car by the time he pulls the trigger. Woman was being retarded but that could have been resolved without blasting her in the face. Very disheartening to see.

I think ICE is being instructed to do aggressive/bad-looking PR stuff to incite further protesting and disorder, presumably for further crackdown but maybe there's another motive I'm not seeing. It's sketchy to me and seems like the actual objective is not the stated objective.
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Bad take.

Watch the cel phone footage

Good kill. Id shoot them too. 10/10

Go to about 1 min 30 seconds to watch.
 
PurpleUrkel said:
I guarantee they won't be able to prove intent to harm the officer beyond a reasonable doubt and that the officer loses his job (maybe even jail time).

Good analysis on your part but we've all seen the video.... The left sees "this," the right sees "that," and there is your reasonable doubt.


This is what a judge/jury will see.
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You have it all wrong. There is no burden to show her intent beyond a reasonable doubt.

The question that will be asked is if the officer had a reasonable reason to feel as though his life was in danger.

It is clear to me that he did.
 
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