No, I have a great purpose for all the work I do, I have a lot of space and room, and I could never just be a beta worker bee male, I would rather die. I am almost the opposite, I just have worked a ton for good reason.
36 Chambers Of Fertilizer
- Thread starter Wutang
- Start date
A few posters on this board, including in this thread, have already stated to you multiple times that you are talking past each other in a big way.
What nefarious reason do you think is behind someone posting their viewpoint on China with evidence and examples from their own experience?
Would that make you a "USA/West bad" poster in this thread?
To take "something seriously", as you put it, requires a broad understanding of the topic. I give reports with online links and personal examples from 13 years of living in China's third largest city, a manufacturing and educational center that includes people from all over China, as well as foreign countries, but I'm here to talk about China, whereas most of the "China good / USA bad" posters usually deflect and minimize with abundant tu quoque and constantly changing the topic back to the USA.
You can't be taken seriously as a commenter on China when you are not aware that they have no religious freedom, but when shown your ignorance then you pivot and say it's good that they do not.
If you're not interested in how the Chinese live, why are you in this thread?
How so? Can you give an example from this thread of someone posting critical about China and comparing it to the West? I have not seen that at all. What I see is people posting critically of China and you and others turn it around by then comparing that to the USA.
Why don't you post about this in one of the many threads about the decline of the West, USA, The Inexorable Decline of Chicago and Illinois, Destabilization of US Cities: Crime, Homelessness, Liberalism, Hollywood is Run Like a Satanic Cult, Latest UK Lunacy, Latest Canadian Lunacy, Latest German Madness, etc?
Textbook whataboutism.
Do it then. Find me an example in the USA comparable to Baby Yue Yue being run over by the same vehicle twice, run over by another vehicle, and ignored by 17 other pedestrians and drivers for an hour, all caught on surveillance cameras.
Because I don't want to live like them does not equate that I am not interested in China. What a weird correlation. That makes 0 sense to even ask.
I see life in China compared to the west all the time in this thread. Yea, China is dystopian, we get it, what about our home countries being turned into something worse?
Find you an example of something worse in the west? Have you ever been to the west? If so, go drive through the "bad area" of any metro area. Do it during the day, it would be wise to be armed, and blow throw any stoplights, and you will likely see worse. Pick any day of the week, just make sure it is daylight and you have plenty of gas and be armed.
Read Lives of Saints said:
Can you try reading that again? I asked why you are in this thread if you are not interested in how Chinese live. I did not ask you to live like Chinese.
By you and Cooper. It's called whataboutism.It Is My Time said:
That should be discussed in one of the many threads dedicated to the problems in the USA and other western countries that I listed for you.It Is My Time said:
Yes, that's what you said you could do, so do it. Google it. Show the comparable examples.It Is My Time said:
I'm American, but I have never seen or heard of a 2 year-old toddler run over by a vehicle, which then backed up over her again by the same driver following the Chinese practice of "better to hit and kill than to hit and injure", only to have her subsequently ignored by 18 more people, and then run over once more.It Is My Time said:
Why would you then assume I am not interested in how the Chinese live? What would make you think that I am not interested in how they live?
If you are an American, and have not seen similar, and in reality far worse, then go check out the "bad area" of the urban centers in the USA.
How soon you forget. This is from an hour ago, a few posts up.
Because those things in China do not exist in the USA or, with all the reporting, it would be easy to show them.
If you are good to your word, then you will do as you have said and show the example, which was your claim.
No where in that comment did I say I was not interested in how they live. I said I have no desire to live like them. But I am interested to learn from how they live and what is going on in their country, for many reasons.
Do you understand how violent our inner cities are? Have you ever been to one? Do you understand how far crime is now spreading in the USA? Do you understand we are importing people, who given that same situation, might eat the recently deceased person?
Then why do you frequently change the topic away from how they live and back onto the USA, which you are doing now by asking someone who lives in the USA and is posting on this forum questions like this:
Still waiting for the example(s) that you promised of someone injured in the street being ignored that is worse than Baby Yue Yue.
I explained that, it is often used to for "China is inferior to us" which is certainly no longer the case. They have vastly superior country to the west and will continue to pass us up.
You think a random murder and people ignoring it after the fact is the worst you have heard of? Come on, no one is buying this sensationalism.
Where did I say that China is inferior to the USA?
It is a real example and not an outlier or random, but the worst among many of a well-known Chinese trend called "it is better to hit and kill than to hit and injure" that I posted about earlier and gave more links.
It appears that you are minimizing this example while simultaneously saying there are much worse ones in the USA, which you promised to cite, but have not.
Where is the example in the USA? Why can you not find it and show it?
Okay, we are getting closer with our discussion. Good, I'm glad you realize China is both a better country and has a brighter future than the west. And this will not change without a major change in the west.
You think someone being hit and run and left to die is the worst thing in the world. I would call it a 5/10 v. what you see in the inner city of the USA and now growing across the west. It is a difference of opinion.
You're putting words in my mouth instead of answering my question and then whatabouting to the West. Why is that?
Do you not know enough about China to comment on it, like how you did not know they have no religious freedom?
More strawmen to minimize something which is uniquely bad to China and, to a lesser extent Taiwan, the practice of "it is better to hit to kill than to hit to injure," for which Baby Yue Yue is the worst example.
Show me the equivalent in the USA as you promised.
So, you think the west is keeping up with China? If so, I have no desire to continue this discussion, it would be a waste of my time.
Where did I say that?
You must be in great shape moving these goalposts all by yourself.
One baby being run over in 2011 in a country of 1.4 billion is your absolute proof that the Chinese are an inferior, savage people.
Instead of one kid being run over in 2011, how about several thousands being killed every year.
In 2023, approximately 3,500 children (ages 1 to 18) were killed in the United States by firearms. The total number of child deaths from all causes in the U.S. annually is approximately 20,000 among children and adolescents (ages 0-19).
I sympathize with the fact that you and Expectation are not native English speakers, but this post is simply incomprehensible.
There are grammar checkers you can use if you wish to be understood.
I didn't move any goal post. I asked a simple question. Please answer it, if you wish to continue this conversation. Who do you think is further ahead and has a better future, China or the west?
You continually move the goalposts and change the topic.
You said you could provide a worse example in the USA of things happening in China, specifically hit and runs, but you have failed to do so. Where is the example that's worse than Baby Yue Yue?
So, you refuse to answer and want to play games. I don't have time for this. If you want worse crimes, just look up any inner city crime stat. You must be very sheltered to think a single murder is worse than what happens many times a day here. Or you are just not being honest about it. Either way, I am out.
I'm not playing games. I'm staying on topic while you constantly switch them and refuse to answer or follow through with what you promised.