The China Thread

If you want real information about a serious topic like the car industry in China, go to someone who covers the car industry, not propagandists whose entire agenda is to bash China, typically Chinese expats with first names like "Miles" or "Byron".

Here's the scoop on BYD's January sales drop from "Electric Viking" an Australian car market specialist and politically neutral source:


He confirms the sales figures and emphasizes that BYD has increased its exports to nearly half of its total as evidence of wise diversification that has significant overall costs short-term. He says that Geely's sales did not suffer the way BYD's did and so the excuse of the market being the main reason for BYD's Jan. 2026 drop compared to Jan. 2025 is not viable.

However, he said that the Chinese New Year is what affected the Jan. 2025 vs Jan. 2026 sales drop of 30% year-on-year decline because production shuts down for one or two weeks during Chinese New Year. This does not make sense to me because the Chinese New Year in 2025 was Jan. 29, so it would have had the largest impact possible on those 2025 sales figures, but the Chinese New Year for 2026 is upcoming on Feb. 17, so I would think that it affects February 2026 sales figures much more than Jan., unless I'm getting this all wrong.
 
I'm looking back at this post and the last and you incorporated a lot of different offhanded comments about lacking visitors and so forth so I thought that was the core of your argument so I was reactively responding to that because thats actually not the reality with record people traveling from HK to Shenzhen every weekend here. I apologize.

I see your posts now and now realize its about WeChat and the onboarding process. There are services that help first time travelers (I usually recommend this to friends traveling in - https://www.trip.com/moments/detail/hong-kong-38-139780811/).

I have my WeChat connected to my Hong Kong Bank Account and it debits for me when I make a transaction. As for criticisms, its really the way China was developed over the past few years. When in Rome. You could carry cash as backup and vendors have to legally accept it but unfortunately, you'll need to onboard to ease your travels in. Its a shame that yourself and other visitors are scared away by it but there are services online that'll guide you.

Thank you for the apology.

With regard to the obligation to use Chinese smartphone smartphone apps to pay for everything in mainland China...the main issue is NOT difficulty using them (although many foreigners have this problem when arriving) but the fact that you have to upload a picture of your passport to use the app and then the Chinese government knows every single thing you pay for, and can instantly block your account for any reason without telling you. Most foreigners are not happy granting that much invasion into their daily personal financial affairs, and certainly do not want to give the government absolute power to suddenly shut off the only form of personal commerce, essentially leaving you without means to pay for anything.
 
He confirms the sales figures and emphasizes that BYD has increased its exports to nearly half of its total as evidence of wise diversification that has significant overall costs short-term. He says that Geely's sales did not suffer the way BYD's did and so the excuse of the market being the main reason for BYD's Jan. 2026 drop compared to Jan. 2025 is not viable.

However, he said that the Chinese New Year is what affected the Jan. 2025 vs Jan. 2026 sales drop of 30% year-on-year decline because production shuts down for one or two weeks during Chinese New Year. This does not make sense to me because the Chinese New Year in 2025 was Jan. 29, so it would have had the largest impact possible on those 2025 sales figures, but the Chinese New Year for 2026 is upcoming on Feb. 17, so I would think that it affects February 2026 sales figures much more than Jan., unless I'm getting this all wrong.

Reduction in domestic subsidies might have been a bigger factor. I guess we will find out in the months to come if the BYD and Chinese EV doomer narrative has any legs at all. I am pretty sure it doesn't, and don't expect the doomers to own up to their propaganda when their goyslop storyboarding collapses like an Indian bridge.
 
Reduction in domestic subsidies might have been a bigger factor. I guess we will find out in the months to come if the BYD and Chinese EV doomer narrative has any legs at all. I am pretty sure it doesn't, and don't expect the doomers to own up to their propaganda when their goyslop storyboarding collapses like an Indian bridge.
I don't care for the doomer perspective either, but sometimes I am irritated (disproportionately, I admit) by what I perceive as general ignorance of Chinese culture by analysts and reviewers.

I was glancing at Electric Viking's YT channel and it seems he puts out a few videos per day, so his overlooking of this glaring mistake of blaming the sales decline on the Chinese New Year is understandable, but tends to indicate his limitations on analysis of China.

It sounds like he was fed a line regarding the Chinese New Year and he regurgitated it without understanding the meaning. I could be wrong and he's an Old China Hand or whatever, but to me this is almost as much of a bias as I would say was in the video about BYD that I posted by Ken-Cao, who is a "China crash imminent" youtuber, from what I can tell.

However, Ken-Cao's claim about BYD 0 KM "used" cars is, IMO, much more relevant to the sales figures than anything the Electric Viking reported, considering that they both mentioned the reduction in Chinese govt EV subsidies.
 

After a one minute search I've found out that the news above isn't news, it's your typical thirdworldist low-effort attempt at aurafarming and pushing fake narratives instead. Long story short, this law wasn't created, there is no breaking news and this messaging is part of a growing and accelerating trend where English language CCP manned Twitter slop-accounts push out copious amount of slop-posts and slop-takes meant to tranquilize and sedate their zero info and low social status slop-followers by slop-pifying them with feel-good slop about Based China vs Evil West. Unfortunately due to Twitter's set up it's borderline impossible to combat this type of information warfare, people just don't have the time, willpower and reach to effectively debunk the garbage.

Anyone vaguely familiar with China knows that China is infamous for its child-kidnapping, something which Chang governments on every level have a hand in. There is a infertility epidemic in China due to the disastrous pollution of soil, air water and food which means that many couples are looking for alternative ways to continue their family line. Legal adoption isn't really anything ergo leaving only the black market as an option. There is a black market for anything in China. Child kidnapping occurs for darker reasons too, will not elaborate on those. What all of this does do is vindicate Chinese helicopter parenting. Chinese parents do not lose sight of their young kid(s) ever and now people understand a bit better why.

The child kidnapping problem has gotten so bad that it's by now mandatory for Chinese kindergartens and primary schools to instruct Chinese kids to distrust strangers, complete with play-acting kidnapping scenarios. Very high trust society bytheway. It makes the slop pushed above extra infuriating. The Chinese government launches cyclical crackdowns but those are proven to be for the worried domestic audience because it never scratches beyond the surface. In fact Chinese authorities are known for suppressing grieving parent groups of kidnappees because it could 'endanger social stability'. It is also a well known fact that especially lower level government officials have a hand in creating new identities for the kidnapped children.

Serpentza has done many videos about it and will do another one soon. Big props to him for fighting the good fight. Child kidnapping's a massive problem in China, and has been for decades. The CCP tries to sweep it under the rug just like it sweeps all other societal problems under the rug because China is all about facade.







 
After a one minute search I've found out that the news above isn't news, it's your typical thirdworldist low-effort attempt at aurafarming and pushing fake narratives instead. Long story short, this law wasn't created, there is no breaking news and this messaging is part of a growing and accelerating trend where English language CCP manned Twitter slop-accounts push out copious amount of slop-posts and slop-takes meant to tranquilize and sedate their zero info and low social status slop-followers by slop-pifying them with feel-good slop about Based China vs Evil West. Unfortunately due to Twitter's set up it's borderline impossible to combat this type of information warfare, people just don't have the time, willpower and reach to effectively debunk the garbage.

Anyone vaguely familiar with China knows that China is infamous for its child-kidnapping, something which Chang governments on every level have a hand in. There is a infertility epidemic in China due to the disastrous pollution of soil, air water and food which means that many couples are looking for alternative ways to continue their family line. Legal adoption isn't really anything ergo leaving only the black market as an option. There is a black market for anything in China. Child kidnapping occurs for darker reasons too, will not elaborate on those. What all of this does do is vindicate Chinese helicopter parenting. Chinese parents do not lose sight of their young kid(s) ever and now people understand a bit better why.

The child kidnapping problem has gotten so bad that it's by now mandatory for Chinese kindergartens and primary schools to instruct Chinese kids to distrust strangers, complete with play-acting kidnapping scenarios. Very high trust society bytheway. It makes the slop pushed above extra infuriating. The Chinese government launches cyclical crackdowns but those are proven to be for the worried domestic audience because it never scratches beyond the surface. In fact Chinese authorities are known for suppressing grieving parent groups of kidnappees because it could 'endanger social stability'. It is also a well known fact that especially lower level government officials have a hand in creating new identities for the kidnapped children.

Serpentza has done many videos about it and will do another one soon. Big props to him for fighting the good fight. Child kidnapping's a massive problem in China, and has been for decades. The CCP tries to sweep it under the rug just like it sweeps all other societal problems under the rug because China is all about facade.








It´s propaganda to counter Epstein files. CHINA=GOOD. Yellows are the good ones. WEST=BAD West is Epstein pedophile land. Tik tok has been blasting Epstein 24/7.

Chinese elite are equally or even more devious than western.

People have no idea of what China or chinese are. It will be a brutal wake up call when they do.
 
Very misleading post from LaNegra, unfortunately par for his course:

After a one minute search I've found out that the news above isn't news, it's your typical thirdworldist low-effort attempt at aurafarming and pushing fake narratives instead. Long story short, this law wasn't created, there is no breaking news and this messaging is part of a growing and accelerating trend where English language CCP manned Twitter slop-accounts push out copious amount of slop-posts and slop-takes meant to tranquilize and sedate their zero info and low social status slop-followers by slop-pifying them with feel-good slop about Based China vs Evil West. Unfortunately due to Twitter's set up it's borderline impossible to combat this type of information warfare, people just don't have the time, willpower and reach to effectively debunk the garbage.

This whole false indignation is just because these Chinese laws stipulating death penalty for child rapists aren't new, but have been in place for years. There is a sleight of hand attempt at disinformation by LaNegra here to dismiss China's tough child protection laws just because they were already in place and not new.

Instead of just stating that these laws already were in place, LaNegra goes on his typical aggro word salad tirades in an attempt to obfuscate the basic fact that the death penalty in China for pedos already was in place, and was actually bolstered in 2023.

China executes pedo predators, and that's a good thing!

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Anyone vaguely familiar with China knows that China is infamous for its child-kidnapping, something which Chang governments on every level have a hand in. There is a infertility epidemic in China due to the disastrous pollution of soil, air water and food which means that many couples are looking for alternative ways to continue their family line. Legal adoption isn't really anything ergo leaving only the black market as an option. There is a black market for anything in China.

Legal adoption in China is in fact "a thing", and allowed for married heterosexual couples over 30 with a stable income. It is adoption by foreigners with no blood relation to the child that has been banned in China.


Child kidnapping occurs for darker reasons too, will not elaborate on those.

The reason you will not elaborate is that unlike in most western countries, there are no satanic child rape/torture/sacrifice networks in China. Eyes Wide Shot, the Franklin School, the Dutroux case in Europe etc have no equivalent whatsoever in China. You don't rise to political power through the CCP by being compromised in a pedo scandal as is the case in the UK, France, Canada or the US where a number of presidents and high officials were pedos.

Child abduction in China do happen, but every indication points to the fact that these abductions are orders of magnitude lower than in the West. Sterzel's sidekick in the video posted above by LaNegra is blatantly lying when he states that the problem is "100,000 times worse in China".

Taking LaNegra's own highly biased anti-China sources of 30k-60k annual child disappearances in China, that rate is approximately nearly 100 times lower than in the US.

“….. A child goes missing every 40 seconds in the U.S., over 2,100 per day. In excess of 800,000 children are reported missing each year; another 500,000 go missing without ever being reported.” - US Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention (OJJDP).

Yet you have professional propagandists like Sterzel and his sidekick sitting in southern California and NY thrashing China for a problem that is 100 times worse in their cities.

The only reason this type of comically preposterous propaganda thrives is because many people in the West just want to believe the worst about China and will accept the worst clichés to confirm their biases.
 
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