The Off-Topic and Random Thoughts Thread(Anything Goes!)

FrancisK said:
Well that's a difference, I'm not trying to "win" anyone over anything I'm simply showing who it is that is bombarding them with negativity and telling them that all hope is lost and to give up. As much as you want to freely inject your poison everywhere you can then I should be free to counter it. Nobody here needs to be told that things need to be fixed, what you are doing is not making people aware it is actively trying to manipulate them, I'm not even going to bother theorizing on your motives because it doesn't matter what they are.

Pointing out lies and manipulation is not an attack, you're not a victim.
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It appears you are, you are trying to attack my character and not discuss the topic. I am trying to get young men to see there is another way to live.

I have addressed your points, probably 5 and maybe even 10 times before. It no longer lands. You will have the same pro-Trump supporters who think you are making good points and the rest who are either realizing he is a fraud or already know, just see your posts in bad faith.

I don't care either way. I'm just giving you the advice to save your energy for something more worthwhile. I am determined to get young men to not buy into the conservative party lies and see there is a better way to live.
 
It_Is_My_Time said:
It appears you are, you are trying to attack my character and not discuss the topic. I am trying to get young men to see there is another way to live.

I have addressed your points, probably 5 and maybe even 10 times before. It no longer lands. You will have the same pro-Trump supporters who think you are making good points and the rest who are either realizing he is a fraud or already know, just see your posts in bad faith.

I don't care either way. I'm just giving you the advice to save your energy for something more worthwhile. I am determined to get young men to not buy into the conservative party lies and see there is a better way to live.
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I don't care about Trump stop deflecting, please explain what this "better way to live" is.
 
FrancisK said:
I don't care about Trump stop deflecting, please explain what this "better way to live" is.
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Building a system in which you no longer work 40 to 50 hours a week for 40 to 50 years, and half your income is stolen by a satanic elite putting a gun in your face and used to babysit third worlders and to fight endless wars. Both parties support this, we have to build a new system. And that starts with changing the way we think, which starts with realizing we don't have to live this way and we shouldn't force our own children to live this way.

And this is true all across the west, not just the USA, not just Trump.

And either this is done or the west will collapse, and all bets are off if that happens.
 
It_Is_My_Time said:
Building a system in which you no longer work 40 to 50 hours a week for 40 to 50 years, and half your income is stolen by a satanic elite putting a gun in your face and used to babysit third worlders and to fight endless wars. Both parties support this, we have to build a new system. And that starts with changing the way we think, which starts with realizing we don't have to live this way and we shouldn't force our own children to live this way.

And this is true all across the west, not just the USA, not just Trump.

And either this is done or the west will collapse, and all bets are off if that happens.
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Who would argue with this? What man on this forum would say "no I don't want things to be better"? This isn't your message, your message is don't try because it doesn't matter and be angry....this is your message now because you're being called out on it and you have to say something that doesn't sound bad. For you to sit here and justify your incessant bombarding of the forum with negativity and talking down to anyone who has anything positive at all to say because you want things to get better makes no sense you're just changing your narrative again.

If this was truly your message nobody would have an issue with it but it's not and never has been. Even regardless of that how are you going sit there and try and tell people what to do when you refuse to do it yourself and actually live the direct opposite?

Talking about children of all things from the guy who refuses to start a family, it's just constant manipulation from you.
 
It_Is_My_Time said:
Why are you putting so much energy into attacking me? All I have said is that the west is collapsing due to third world immigration and the satanic elites who run Wall Street owning all the politicians (oligarchy). I can go back and forth on this, over and over, but it is a waste of my time and energy. You are not winning anyone over, I can assure you of that. And if anyone has any questions, they can feel free to PM me and ask directly and not take over a thread.
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Chinese and arabs are also buying up influence. The Dixon fellow is sharp (need to check btc better).

defence24.com

Southeast Europe at the crossroads: China and the United Arab Emirates in strategic rivalry

In **Serbia and Montenegro**, the two competitors are currently securing influence through infrastructure and energy projects, debt leverage, and strategic alignments.
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It´s what I see. US and EU people have no money. Companies have. Even though most of the times leveraged. GCC arabs and chinese have cash. Hard cash. And I also think they are buying up influence.

Dude its obvious to anyone the majority of people are living worse. With a jump in degradation after corona with inflation. Even public shit in Europe have increased. The mail. I send post letters and the price of the mail per envelope increased double. I don´t send many letters nowadays. But when I had an office. We would send 50-100 envelopes per day.

If you have assets you live good. Even though they need to generate income. I actually am thinking about doing some operations. Today I was with a dude and asked him if he had a buyer for a property we own. Which is a really nice property. But the yeld is not worth the value of the property at this moment. Economically it´s ruin. But sentimentally its hard to let go of it. Anyway the first thing he said was a poor EE country nationals are buying like crazy. In cash. Bills. My guess is ukrainians are laundering in real estate through proxys. The money you hear going to Ukraine. It´s being laundered. So much money siphoned.

Last summer I´ve checked also ferry trips between greek islands. The price was 100 euros/person. One way. 4 people doing a return would cost 800 euros per trip island. I did this when I was younger and the price was much cheaper. Probably 20/30 euros with return. I know it´s a frivolous expense. But the argument stands. Shit has increased and salaries didn´t. Either rent a sailboat or doing a cruise all included and kids dont even pay it´s much better value. Might do a cruise next year between islands. Or the Disney cruise seems really nice and not that expensive if booked in advance.

The problem is with women. And the corruption of women by corrupted money.
 
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GodfatherPartTwo said:
I don't like his political stance precisely because it is pro-abortion. Whatever the GOPe stance is, chopper's is, no more, no less. And the GOPe stance is not anti-abortion, though it masquerades as such. Not only abortion, but this held true for Epstein, and now the economy, which is what sparked all this contention.
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This is your characterization by cherry picking responses with out entirety of context, even in spite of multiple refutations.

I'm clearly not capable of convincing someone whose willing to lie about things, tag a quote, then mis-characterize said quote to try and win points.

Again I've told you I'm against all forms of abortion. Ive said I'm not in favor of the handling of Epstein. You're chosing to take a comment here and there and try and twist shit to fit a narrative because its easier for you to do that than to simply admit you lied.

But if I was a liar, I suppose I'd have to double down too since that's the only way to not eat shit publicly.
 
FrancisK said:
Who would argue with this? What man on this forum would say "no I don't want things to be better"? This isn't your message, your message is don't try because it doesn't matter and be angry....this is your message now because you're being called out on it and you have to say something that doesn't sound bad. For you to sit here and justify your incessant bombarding of the forum with negativity and talking down to anyone who has anything positive at all to say because you want things to get better makes no sense you're just changing your narrative again.

If this was truly your message nobody would have an issue with it but it's not and never has been. Even regardless of that how are you going sit there and try and tell people what to do when you refuse to do it yourself and actually live the direct opposite?

Talking about children of all things from the guy who refuses to start a family, it's just constant manipulation from you.
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A lot of third worlders would disagree with this. In fact, this would be their ultimate battle to keep tax paying workers from realizing this alternative way of living.

I am trying to figure out my own path. If I can find success at it, I will teach young men what I did. I am hopeful and pray nightly I can put it together. What I have been able to do just isn't available for most young men today due to a trash economy, DEI policies, and an economy that no longer works for the bottom 99.9%. So, me giving this advice would be like be being a boomer and telling them to use their bootstraps.
 
It_Is_My_Time said:
A lot of third worlders would disagree with this. In fact, this would be their ultimate battle to keep tax paying workers from realizing this alternative way of living.

I am trying to figure out my own path. If I can find success at it, I will teach young men what I did. I am hopeful and pray nightly I can put it together. What I have been able to do just isn't available for most young men today due to a trash economy, DEI policies, and an economy that no longer works for the bottom 99.9%. So, me giving this advice would be like be being a boomer and telling them to use their bootstraps.
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Well nobody here is supporting third worlders so I don't see how that matters. Please also stop disingenuously using the idea of Prayer for effect, you need to stop with that it's an insult anyone can go pull up your posts where you say Praying does nothing.

I wish this was your actual message this would actually have value, I wish you had this much humility to say that about your path and you shouldn't be giving advice but it's not. This has not been your message at all it's actually been that you did all the right things and you've actively been giving out advice. Your message is changing right here again to suit the new narrative....
 
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It_Is_My_Time said:
A lot of third worlders would disagree with this. In fact, this would be their ultimate battle to keep tax paying workers from realizing this alternative way of living.

I am trying to figure out my own path. If I can find success at it, I will teach young men what I did. I am hopeful and pray nightly I can put it together. What I have been able to do just isn't available for most young men today due to a trash economy, DEI policies, and an economy that no longer works for the bottom 99.9%. So, me giving this advice would be like be being a boomer and telling them to use their bootstraps.
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www.foxnews.com

Joy Reid warns that Republicans want 'no income tax' and people to earn 'as much money as they want'

Former MSNBC host Joy Reid argued on Monday that the end goal of the Republican Party was to return to a "hierarchical" time before the income tax was established.
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magoo said:
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Joy Reid warns that Republicans want 'no income tax' and people to earn 'as much money as they want'

Former MSNBC host Joy Reid argued on Monday that the end goal of the Republican Party was to return to a "hierarchical" time before the income tax was established.
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Yep, and they will complain they can't bring their families her and put them straight on govt. assistance that was meant for us, then get preferential hiring and education spots, driving our engineering into the ground and causing us to fall further and further behind China.
 
GodfatherPartTwo said:
The rest of us have to read these long pages of inquiry into IIMTs personal life. Let's stick to the issues.
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All personal drama is (and will be) removed from the main threads and moved either here to the off-topic thread where it doesn't stand in the way of normal conversations and no one has to read it, or to the troll's lounge if it deteriorates below a certain point.
 
Read_Lives_of_Saints said:
It's something to consider, but faith in God means that you should be optimistic about your children's opportunities and that they will be provided for primarily by God and not by you or other earthly actors.
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Starving mud Africans have this kind of mentality. That is why Africa is where it is today. Because the Africans who cannot afford it keep popping out more kids.
 
Australia Sucks said:
Starving mud Africans have this kind of mentality. That is why Africa is where it is today. Because the Africans who cannot afford it keep popping out more kids.
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It's not the wrong mentality just because some people who have it are missing necessary elements of comparable foresight or have abundance artificially rained down upon them that creates unsustainable population expansion. I'm against disproportionately giving resources to Africans by Westerners over the needs of Westerners and, at this point, I'm also against most evangelizing that fits into this category because it's driven by naïve, boomeristic fairy tales about the target populations over there as much as over here.

I'm also not an alarmist in either direction of population growth or shrinkage for Westerners (it's okay if the European, Japanese, South Korean, etc. population shrinks for a while), but if you want to use an extreme example, then what happens if more Westerners lose hope and have a lot fewer children? Don't they need some level of optimism to procreate, but without perverse incentives being applied, like welfare that encourages people to be lazy?
 
Read_Lives_of_Saints said:
It's not the wrong mentality just because some people who have it are missing necessary elements of comparable foresight or have abundance artificially rained down upon them that creates unsustainable population expansion. I'm against disproportionately giving resources to Africans by Westerners over the needs of Westerners and, at this point, I'm also against most evangelizing that fits into this category because it's driven by naïve, boomeristic fairy tales about the target populations over there as much as over here.

I'm also not an alarmist in either direction of population growth or shrinkage for Westerners (it's okay if the European, Japanese, South Korean, etc. population shrinks for a while), but if you want to use an extreme example, then what happens if more Westerners lose hope and have a lot fewer children? Don't they need some level of optimism to procreate, but without perverse incentives being applied, like welfare that encourages people to be lazy?
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Optimism doesn't come from just hoping, wishing, believing. It comes from real world results. It comes from a deep belief that you have a strong civilization and structure underneath you. That if you were to suffer a severe set-back, or even an early death, that your community (people of the same blood as you) will ensure your children's safety and their ability to grow to adulthood safely in a society that will then allow them to provide for their own children and the string within a nation (people of the same blood) continues to push forward.

Immagration, legal or illegal, destroys this bond. It is why the tower of Babel is one of the most important lessons in the bible. Without a nation state (people of the same blood) you have righteous distrust among competing groups for resources. This destroys the bonds of the people and makes civilization untrustworthy. This then causes extra stress and makes having children less likely for high IQ K-Select people. This then creates a dysgenic society.

The entire world is now at a point where it is becoming a satanic dysgenic world due to immigration and the destruction in the human way of living within your own nation-state. The only way to fix this is to get back to nations and remove third world immigration. The natural populations will resume when these pressures on lower IQ r-select people is reestablished. As long as r-select/low IQ people can spit out a bunch of kids they can't provide for, and the satanic governments force their high IQ people to provide for them, then it will only get worse.

Will this be fixed before the world's average IQ is 80 and then a massive starve off/die off takes place? I don't know, maybe in the end that is God's plan, but I don't think we should do nothing about it as well.

The man with the highest IQ in the world explains it well. This isn't sustainable, and either a lot of us and our families will die from it or we get serious about the issue and start to stand for nationalism again.



 
It_Is_My_Time said:
Optimism doesn't come from just hoping, wishing, believing. It comes from real world results. It comes from a deep belief that you have a strong civilization and structure underneath you. That if you were to suffer a severe set-back, or even an early death, that your community (people of the same blood as you) will ensure your children's safety and their ability to grow to adulthood safely in a society that will then allow them to provide for their own children and the string within a nation (people of the same blood) continues to push forward.

Immagration, legal or illegal, destroys this bond. It is why the tower of Babel is one of the most important lessons in the bible. Without a nation state (people of the same blood) you have righteous distrust among competing groups for resources. This destroys the bonds of the people and makes civilization untrustworthy. This then causes extra stress and makes having children less likely for high IQ K-Select people. This then creates a dysgenic society.

The entire world is now at a point where it is becoming a satanic dysgenic world due to immigration and the destruction in the human way of living within your own nation-state. The only way to fix this is to get back to nations and remove third world immigration. The natural populations will resume when these pressures on lower IQ r-select people is reestablished. As long as r-select/low IQ people can spit out a bunch of kids they can't provide for, and the satanic governments force their high IQ people to provide for them, then it will only get worse.

Will this be fixed before the world's average IQ is 80 and then a massive starve off/die off takes place? I don't know, maybe in the end that is God's plan, but I don't think we should do nothing about it as well.

The man with the highest IQ in the world explains it well. This isn't sustainable, and either a lot of us and our families will die from it or we get serious about the issue and start to stand for nationalism again.



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You are familiar with Norman Borlaug and how he saved the world from the prediction of mass starvation right.

Your chicken little mentality is disproven by historical examples of man overcoming nature through tech and ingenuity

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Get2choppaaa said:
You are familiar with Norman Borlaug and how he saved the world from the prediction of mass starvation right.

Your chicken little mentality is disproven by historical examples of man overcoming nature through tech and ingenuity

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Norman Borlaug - Wikipedia

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No, I have no idea who it is. I just know that a world full of 70 and 80 IQ Africans, which is what the west is heading towards, will give a very obvious result. And the only fix is nationalism, which means this fake two-party system will offer no solution.
 
It_Is_My_Time said:
Optimism doesn't come from just hoping, wishing, believing. It comes from real world results. It comes from a deep belief that you have a strong civilization and structure underneath you.
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In one regard, you're preaching to the choir, but in another you're disagreeing with being optimistic in Jesus Christ.

I'm all for nationalism and the main points that you are making, but what about right this minute? Don't we need to also be optimistic this very instant, otherwise how do we work toward a goal whose fulfilment, because of the obstacles you've mentioned, is not materialistically predictable?
 
Read_Lives_of_Saints said:
In one regard, you're preaching to the choir, but in another you're disagreeing with being optimistic in Jesus Christ.

I'm all for nationalism and the main points that you are making, but what about right this minute? Don't we need to also be optimistic this very instant, otherwise how do we work toward a goal whose fulfilment, because of the obstacles you've mentioned, is not materialistically predictable?
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I think you are conflating personal optimism with societal optimism, and this can get very complex.

I am naturally a very optimistic person, on the very extreme end of it. I come by it naturally, my family is that way, also I was born into a lot, also I practice gratitude, which I highly recommend. At the same time, the reality is a shrinking number of high IQ people cannot continue to support a growing number of low IQ people. Eventually there will have to be a great change or the system will bust. And God gave us the ability to change the system. He gave us great and powerful brains that have created communications and knowledge sharing around the globe. I now see more and more young men realizing the damages of third world immigration and it is catching on like a wildfire.

So, I actually do believe something will happen, because we will make it happen. I am optimistic we will achieve it, but at the same time, if we get complacent and think things will just work out or that God will do it for us, then it will not happen. We have to make it happen, God gave us the ability, it us up to us to use it. And that is the point of my messaging, to let people know that we are up against a dire situation, that we can beat, if we choose to do so, and feeling sorry for third wordlers feelings must be the first thing to go.
 
It_Is_My_Time said:
No, I have no idea who it is. I just know that a world full of 70 and 80 IQ Africans, which is what the west is heading towards, will give a very obvious result. And the only fix is nationalism, which means this fake two-party system will offer no solution.
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You should get educated and read about his accomplishments. Basically the though in the 1960s was that the world's resources were going to be consumed and there would be mass world starvation.

In comes Norman Borlaug and he revolutionized agricultural practices and we have more food abundance now than people to feed (whether or not NGOs local governments provide it to the people is a different subject)

My point is that in reading In a round about way, worrying about the starving Africans to suggest people not start families here is effectively promoting depopulation which puts you in Bill Gates Camp.

I agree Nationalist Christian government is the most desirable form of government...but that's separate from what I'm getting at here. Society collapsing or not you need to make children so that your side and values have an opportunity to overcome adversity. And because God commands you to.
 
Get2choppaaa said:
This is your characterization by cherry picking responses with out entirety of context, even in spite of multiple refutations.

I'm clearly not capable of convincing someone whose willing to lie about things, tag a quote, then mis-characterize said quote to try and win points.

Again I've told you I'm against all forms of abortion. Ive said I'm not in favor of the handling of Epstein. You're chosing to take a comment here and there and try and twist shit to fit a narrative because its easier for you to do that than to simply admit you lied.

But if I was a liar, I suppose I'd have to double down too since that's the only way to not eat shit publicly.
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Wasn't there an old poster here who was so staunchly anti-abortion that Trump could be supported in no way? Since Trump didn't come out as completely opposed to abortion (Trump says it's a state issue), that Trump was no different than Hillary/Harris? He got into a fight with Samseau about it and quit/banned for it?

This seems similar - In trying to keep turning the argument back to anti-abortion stance.

Just weird that it keeps getting brought up, despite repeated denials/anti-abortion affirmations.
 
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