Missing sisters last seen at Dundee shopping centre as cops launch urgent search
Sisters, Ruby and Lola Moir, have been reported missing after last spotted visiting a Dundee shopping centre.
Lola the Braveheart Hatchet Girl
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That couple are Turks who leaked into Bulgaria, this happens a lot there. Bulgarians are not Turks ethnically but southern Slavs.
Maybe that couple is half Turk half gypsy but if you've lived in Europe you know how to immediately spot a Turk or gypsy. Romanians are 100% Orthodox white but with a large gypsy population, not sure why they even came up in this thread.
Re this story, I honestly don't know she could be a gang member but then why is she....? Maybe cause her parents tax payer pounds all go to illegals?
Also that daily mail article is truly dystopian where the immigrant guy gets made out to be some poor victim while the native girls are made out to be some aggressive hobos, they even talked about their clothes.
Maybe that couple is half Turk half gypsy but if you've lived in Europe you know how to immediately spot a Turk or gypsy. Romanians are 100% Orthodox white but with a large gypsy population, not sure why they even came up in this thread.
Re this story, I honestly don't know she could be a gang member but then why is she....? Maybe cause her parents tax payer pounds all go to illegals?
Also that daily mail article is truly dystopian where the immigrant guy gets made out to be some poor victim while the native girls are made out to be some aggressive hobos, they even talked about their clothes.
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Source?
1989 expulsion of Turks from Bulgaria - Wikipedia
Doesn't seem like Zhivkov considered himself a Turk.
I don't keep up with Bulgar origins, the last time that country was on my mind was in 2006 or 07, somebody was asking on a Polish sport/MMA forum about their women, people would say like in Romania, or Turkey. That they were Turkic is what the world believed, everyone knows there are a lot of Gyppos there. This is from the Bg Nat Radio's website, ten years ago Italian scientists helped them figure things out:
Present-day Bulgarians carry genes of Thracians and Proto-Bulgarians, not of Slavs:
A study of the genetic code of Bulgarians is about to eliminate the deeply rooted hypothesis of the Turkic-Altaic origin of Bulgarians. Recently, Bulgarian and Italian scientists teamed up for a project to decode the genes of present-day Bulgarians and the results have been stunning.
We have found that Bulgarians have no genetic similarities with either Turkic or Altaic populations. We do not have genetic similarities with contemporary Turks either.
Even Proto-Bulgarians have no genetic similarities with either the Turks, or Turkic and Altaic populations. Unfortunately, we could not explore ancient Slavs, because we had no access to genetic material from them - they practiced cremation. However, drawing comparisons with contemporary Slavs suggests that we have no similarities with them.
The results were as follows, in brief: A European population with closest genetic similarity to Hungarians, Croats and Italians.
Present-day Bulgarians carry genes of Thracians and Proto-Bulgarians, not of Slavs
A study of the genetic code of Bulgarians is about to eliminate the deeply rooted hypothesis of the Turkic-Altaic origin of Bulgarians. Recently, Bulgarian and Italian scientists teamed up for a project to decode the genes of present-day...
Hungarians (closest genetically as per the study mentioned) come from the Asian steppe. There's a genetic link to Italians too. But now other studies, concluded in 2021, link Italians to the population of Turkey, a former Roman territory. Thrace was a Roman province between modern Bulgaria and Turkey.
Genetic study links Turkish DNA to Italy’s Tuscany, Spain
A decadelong study in Turkey discovered that the population’s genetic structure is closely linked to people of Italy’s Tuscany and Spain while it demonstrates that the people, like the country they live in, have features bridging the West and the East A study whose results were recently...
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The leading Bulgarian researcher from that 2015 project looks exactly how I described it,
while that swarthy, Indian looking couple from the DM article above, are no doubt Gypsies- they always keep their pagan superstitions and magic, and externally assimilate some of the religious beliefs from the surrounding culture. I'm not looking to hurt anybody's pride, in Ukraine for example, they pretty much call all those south of them Gypsies.
Yes as I said there is no substantial Turkic component in the Bulgarian gene pool today. As for the Slavic component it is small and not nearly as large as in Poland, Russia, etc. But definitely there were some Slavs in Bulgaria because we wouldn't otherwise speak a Slavic language.
Yes many Bulgarians have that Pontic East Mediterranean look. You will also find Ukrainians and south Russians that look like that due to shared Iranic origins.
Keep in mind before the Turkic tribes came, Turkey was settled by Indo-European Hittite people. Even modern Turks are mostly non-Turkic. There were also large migrations of farmers into southern Europe from the middle East thousands of years ago, so we all share some DNA.
European Y-DNA haplogroups frequencies by country
Frequency tables showing the percentage for each Y-DNA haplogroup by country and region in Europe, the Middle East and North Africa.
www.eupedia.com
The articles about these girls having gone missing one month prior are still unexplained as to why and if it's related to what's happening now. The guess from twitter about why their family isn't talking is that they're being crushed by the weight of the MSM and police, and are pretty much hunkered down in their house, avoiding contact, while looking for legal representation.
History is falsified, news are fake, evolution is a lie, big bang is science fiction, universities belong to the jews, covid stats were fabricated, but dna studies are trustworthy?I don't keep up with Bulgar origins, the last time that country was on my mind was in 2006 or 07, somebody was asking on a Polish sport/MMA forum about their women, people would say like in Romania, or Turkey. That they were Turkic is what the world believed, everyone knows there are a lot of Gyppos there. This is from the Bg Nat Radio's website, ten years ago Italian scientists helped them figure things out:
Present-day Bulgarians carry genes of Thracians and Proto-Bulgarians, not of Slavs:
A study of the genetic code of Bulgarians is about to eliminate the deeply rooted hypothesis of the Turkic-Altaic origin of Bulgarians. Recently, Bulgarian and Italian scientists teamed up for a project to decode the genes of present-day Bulgarians and the results have been stunning.
We have found that Bulgarians have no genetic similarities with either Turkic or Altaic populations. We do not have genetic similarities with contemporary Turks either.
Even Proto-Bulgarians have no genetic similarities with either the Turks, or Turkic and Altaic populations. Unfortunately, we could not explore ancient Slavs, because we had no access to genetic material from them - they practiced cremation. However, drawing comparisons with contemporary Slavs suggests that we have no similarities with them.
The results were as follows, in brief: A European population with closest genetic similarity to Hungarians, Croats and Italians.
Present-day Bulgarians carry genes of Thracians and Proto-Bulgarians, not of Slavs
A study of the genetic code of Bulgarians is about to eliminate the deeply rooted hypothesis of the Turkic-Altaic origin of Bulgarians. Recently, Bulgarian and Italian scientists teamed up for a project to decode the genes of present-day...bnr.bg
Hungarians (closest genetically as per the study mentioned) come from the Asian steppe. There's a genetic link to Italians too. But now other studies, concluded in 2021, link Italians to the population of Turkey, a former Roman territory. Thrace was a Roman province between modern Bulgaria and Turkey.
Genetic study links Turkish DNA to Italy’s Tuscany, Spain
A decadelong study in Turkey discovered that the population’s genetic structure is closely linked to people of Italy’s Tuscany and Spain while it demonstrates that the people, like the country they live in, have features bridging the West and the East A study whose results were recently...
The leading Bulgarian researcher from that 2015 project looks exactly how I described it,
while that swarthy, Indian looking couple from the DM article above, are no doubt Gypsies- they always keep their pagan superstitions and magic, and externally assimilate some of the religious beliefs from the surrounding culture. I'm not looking to hurt anybody's pride, in Ukraine for example, they pretty much call all those south of them Gypsies.
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kevork
Other Christian
The guy's surname does not exist in Bulgaria, or many other countries.
But there are similar surnames in Turkey and Albania.
The trurth of what he did does not matter. Deport.
But there are similar surnames in Turkey and Albania.
The trurth of what he did does not matter. Deport.
This is comparing apples to oranges, why not list blood work as well, lying or manipulating data by itself doesn't undermine the reliability of the method, dna analysis is used by courts for confirming paternity and in criminal cases, in the case I listed, what would be the reason for the deception, it may not be the holy grail that tells the whole story or a 100% settled science, the future can bring improvements that result in revisions, but here I don't see a solid reason for scientific dishonesty, not that I care much about this.
Gypsies are a nationality unto themselves, they're international. In Poland you'll see them speaking strange unintelligible languages. There may be 2-3k of them in a village and only one address for everyone, the govt can't squeeze any taxes out of them, but they sure get all the social benefits they apply for. It's not a problem for a Turkish or Albanian Gypsy to move to Bulgaria for marriage, those countries form their European "homeland":
Here's a gypsy bride market in Bulgaria, they have a whitish foxy girl at 24:07 minutes on offer:
Just discovered there's youtubers doing "white fatigue", here's one covering this incident. Amazingly this guy used to be an OG Trump supporter unless I hallucinated it.
forabettertomorrow
Orthodox
My friends no xennophobia on christ is kung please, i know many romani many are good christian you must not blame them for problem of 1.
My friends in russia there are many gypsies to sometimes there is problem. Last year bad romani kill russia taxi driver elena, they kill for some rubles and for fun, they are not 18 yet they dont know what they do
then russia people in village and other villages are angry. Some are nazis, racists. They come to village of elena to make problems. Romani family then shoot two people, russia villagers burn romani houses next.
my friends this is very dangerous because xenophobia and division is opening for cia and american satanists, so putin decide to send heavy police units to many villages. They arrest more than 150 nazis, some get years in prison. I understand they are angry but racist riot and pogrom is not how we do this in Russia.
There are good and bad people in russia romani and and sinti community my friends always remember that. but I don't know how is in other country, maybe there is worse because oppressioj and racism in West society.
My friends in russia there are many gypsies to sometimes there is problem. Last year bad romani kill russia taxi driver elena, they kill for some rubles and for fun, they are not 18 yet they dont know what they do
then russia people in village and other villages are angry. Some are nazis, racists. They come to village of elena to make problems. Romani family then shoot two people, russia villagers burn romani houses next.
my friends this is very dangerous because xenophobia and division is opening for cia and american satanists, so putin decide to send heavy police units to many villages. They arrest more than 150 nazis, some get years in prison. I understand they are angry but racist riot and pogrom is not how we do this in Russia.
There are good and bad people in russia romani and and sinti community my friends always remember that. but I don't know how is in other country, maybe there is worse because oppressioj and racism in West society.
"He's from Bulgaria" is now being weaponized to get more gypsies in.
That's what him and his wife are; gypsies. They live in filth and squalor in European ghettos.
We finally have an eyewitness account that summarizes events in a couple of 9 min tiktok vids from one of the girls who was there, named Mayah (14 y.o.). She was with Lola (13 y.o. hatchet girl) and her sister Ruby (12), when they met up to go to the shops or somewhere with two other girls, totaling 5. On the way, the migrant Ali Dumana, who was with another man, commented on Ruby, saying she was sexy several times. The girls yelled at him to stop (implied profanities), but he continued following and commenting. A [British] man asked the girls if they knew Ali, they said no, so he confronted Ali. They got forehead to forehead and spoke words the girls couldn't hear, Ali pushed the other man, and he walked away.
Ali continued following the girls very closely from the carpark at less than an arm's length. Ali called someone and spoke in an unfamiliar Orc language the girls couldn't understand, then a woman arrived who turned out to be Ali's sister, not his wife. Next, Ali and his Orc sister beat Ruby (the one he called sexy) to the ground and kicked her. She later went to the hospital and had a concussion with internal cranial swelling.
When Ruby was attacked, Lola pulled her weapons, so yes, she was just carrying them concealed as a matter of course. Draw your obvious conclusions that this incident is the proof of the necessity of her having done so, and this is where the video picked up.
Mayah walked a bit away to call the police, then Mayah and Ruby waited while Ali and his Orc sister went back up to the cark park, although Lola ran away. Ruby called her mother, whom Mayah describes as stable, and arrived with Ruby's aunt. The two police vans and one car were keeping Ali and Sister Orc in one area and the girls in the other. Ruby's mother went up and yelled at Ali for beating her daughter, but the police kept them apart.
The police found Lola and brought her back and put her in one of the vans, but her weapons were gone when they found her, although she was arrested and charged; Mayah says Ali has not been charged. The police put Ali in the other van and he, according to Mayah, began punching, kicking and spitting on the cops, so they put a spit bag on him, then he urinated in the van. He was inside kicking the van quite hard.
Mayah wants to be left out of this because she was just a bystander. She also wants to distance herself from Lola because she thinks her carrying weapons is wrong.
Ali continued following the girls very closely from the carpark at less than an arm's length. Ali called someone and spoke in an unfamiliar Orc language the girls couldn't understand, then a woman arrived who turned out to be Ali's sister, not his wife. Next, Ali and his Orc sister beat Ruby (the one he called sexy) to the ground and kicked her. She later went to the hospital and had a concussion with internal cranial swelling.
When Ruby was attacked, Lola pulled her weapons, so yes, she was just carrying them concealed as a matter of course. Draw your obvious conclusions that this incident is the proof of the necessity of her having done so, and this is where the video picked up.
Mayah walked a bit away to call the police, then Mayah and Ruby waited while Ali and his Orc sister went back up to the cark park, although Lola ran away. Ruby called her mother, whom Mayah describes as stable, and arrived with Ruby's aunt. The two police vans and one car were keeping Ali and Sister Orc in one area and the girls in the other. Ruby's mother went up and yelled at Ali for beating her daughter, but the police kept them apart.
The police found Lola and brought her back and put her in one of the vans, but her weapons were gone when they found her, although she was arrested and charged; Mayah says Ali has not been charged. The police put Ali in the other van and he, according to Mayah, began punching, kicking and spitting on the cops, so they put a spit bag on him, then he urinated in the van. He was inside kicking the van quite hard.
Mayah wants to be left out of this because she was just a bystander. She also wants to distance herself from Lola because she thinks her carrying weapons is wrong.
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Someone else did a pro job of a transcript:
Get ready with me while I tell the story of what actually took place on Saturday night as a witness, because I was there during the whole thing. I was the one who made the 999 call to bring the police. So I feel like I should get my story out.
Basically, me and my friend Ruby—who was one of the girls in the video—had just been swimming. When we got back, we went to my house, dropped our stuff off, and then Ruby's sister Lola phoned us and asked if we wanted to meet. She was meeting with some of our other friends, and we agreed. So we met with Lola and two other girls.
We were walking to one of the girls’ houses because she had something to drop off. While we were walking through Lock, we passed the man you see recording us in the video. As we walked past, he made remarks to Lola. We told him it wasn’t okay because Lola is 12. Ruby said, “Go away, she’s 12.” The man repeated himself, and we shouted at him. I won’t lie—we did shout at him, because we were upset.
I dragged the girls away, but then the man started following us. At first he had been walking the opposite direction with another man. People online said he was with his wife, but he wasn’t. He was with another male, not a woman, and there was no baby in a pram.
We realized he was following us and kept saying, “Stop following us, why are you following us?” We were loud because it was frightening. I’m 14, Ruby is 13, Lola is 12, and the other two girls are both 14.
Another man approached because he heard the commotion. He asked if we knew the man following us. We said no, and he told him to leave us alone. He used the Scottish word “bairn,” meaning children. The two men got face-to-face like they were about to fight. Then the man following us pushed the other man, who walked away to avoid a fight.
The man then got on the phone speaking a language we couldn’t understand. I want to make it clear: this wasn’t about race. We didn’t know he was Bulgarian. We were walking away from him when he approached us.
While he was still close to us, we kept telling him to stop following. Ruby walked a little away while texting a friend. Then his sister came running around the corner. She grabbed Ruby from behind, and both she and the man jumped on Ruby, punching her in the face and kicking her in the head. Ruby had to go to the hospital with a severe concussion and swelling inside her head.
I called the police immediately. While I was on the phone, Lola pulled out a machete and a hatchet that none of us knew she had. If we had known, we would not have stayed with her. As soon as she pulled them, the man started recording the video that has been shared online.
Witness Account of Saturday Night Incident
Get ready with me while I tell the story of what actually took place on Saturday night as a witness, because I was there during the whole thing. I was the one who made the 999 call to bring the police. So I feel like I should get my story out.
Basically, me and my friend Ruby—who was one of the girls in the video—had just been swimming. When we got back, we went to my house, dropped our stuff off, and then Ruby's sister Lola phoned us and asked if we wanted to meet. She was meeting with some of our other friends, and we agreed. So we met with Lola and two other girls.
We were walking to one of the girls’ houses because she had something to drop off. While we were walking through Lock, we passed the man you see recording us in the video. As we walked past, he made remarks to Lola. We told him it wasn’t okay because Lola is 12. Ruby said, “Go away, she’s 12.” The man repeated himself, and we shouted at him. I won’t lie—we did shout at him, because we were upset.
I dragged the girls away, but then the man started following us. At first he had been walking the opposite direction with another man. People online said he was with his wife, but he wasn’t. He was with another male, not a woman, and there was no baby in a pram.
We realized he was following us and kept saying, “Stop following us, why are you following us?” We were loud because it was frightening. I’m 14, Ruby is 13, Lola is 12, and the other two girls are both 14.
Another man approached because he heard the commotion. He asked if we knew the man following us. We said no, and he told him to leave us alone. He used the Scottish word “bairn,” meaning children. The two men got face-to-face like they were about to fight. Then the man following us pushed the other man, who walked away to avoid a fight.
The man then got on the phone speaking a language we couldn’t understand. I want to make it clear: this wasn’t about race. We didn’t know he was Bulgarian. We were walking away from him when he approached us.
While he was still close to us, we kept telling him to stop following. Ruby walked a little away while texting a friend. Then his sister came running around the corner. She grabbed Ruby from behind, and both she and the man jumped on Ruby, punching her in the face and kicking her in the head. Ruby had to go to the hospital with a severe concussion and swelling inside her head.
I called the police immediately. While I was on the phone, Lola pulled out a machete and a hatchet that none of us knew she had. If we had known, we would not have stayed with her. As soon as she pulled them, the man started recording the video that has been shared online.