The Venezuela Thread

LaAguilaNegra said:
Article is from 2013, ergo any link to recent statements do not make a lot of sense.

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If anything Venezuela's geopolitical position on Iran and Russia would be a much bigger giveaway, the Maduro Clique was one of by the few staunch supporters of Tehran during the Twelve Day War - a position that for some reason didn't reach the mainstream. Venezuela under Maduro is also opening up to Russian arms manufacturing and is being named as a potential host for a Russian missile basis a la Cuba 1963 even though the advent of ICBMs relinquishes much of any future missile base's relevance. The news below is not confirmed and was mentioned in response to Trump putting two nuclear submarines on standby. There are however quite a few Russian military bloggers close to the Kremlin who spoke on the matter, and who relayed that the possibility was indeed proposed in National Security Council meetings as a retaliatory measure.

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The US is sending an additional 3 Aegis guided missile destroyers to the Venezuelan shores. This deployment comes after several naval assets were repositioned near Venezuela last week already, which in turn was the first pivot following the Trump Administration's early August pivot which was 'aimed at addressing threats to US national security from specially designated narco-terrorist organizations in the region.' Part of the deployment will be 4000 Marines and P-8 Poseidon planes.









Also a request to the moderator team to re-name this thread the Venezuela Thread or Venezuela Conflict Thread.
 
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In response to the 50 million USD bounty on his head and the US military deployment Nicolas Maduro has threatened to mobilize 4.5 million Venezuelan Militia/ Milicia Bolivariana - a structure developed by Chavez and distinct from the regular army and Bolivarian National Guards.



 
In a major change of directions the US military has struck a small vessel belonging to the Tren de Aragua Cartel. The Tren de Aragua Cartel, like The Cartel de los Soles has in the last 6 months been designated a terrorist organization and both are led by the Venezuelan intel communities. The vessel was targeted outside Venezuelan waters. 11 narcos died.



 
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LaAguilaNegra said:
The die has been cast, in a major change of directions the US military has struck a small vessel belonging to the Tren de Aragua Cartel. The Tren de Aragua Cartel, like The Cartel de los Soles has in the last 6 months been designated a terrorist organization and both are led by the Venezuelan intel communities. The vessel was targeted outside Venezuelan waters. 11 narcos died.



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Up to now, the policy has been to chase a drug boat like this with a helicopter, then shoot the engines out with a sniper rifle. Once the boat is stopped, a patrol boat shows up and takes then into captivity. If the boat resists and shoots at either the helo or the patrol boat, then they get blasted, but it sounds like this boat got blasted as a first strike.
 
Situation in the Caribbean continues to heat up, US miltary deployment is still building up, rhetorics from both sides are becoming more belligerent and the Venezuelans have twice buzzed a US warship south of Puerto Rico

Alleged video of two Venezuelan F16s flying over the USS Durham yesterday released by the Venezuelan FANB, although many say ship in question is a Venezuelan patrol boat. The Trump Administration called this move 'highly provocative'. Today the Venezoleans repeated this stunt, an ill received bluff which they will not be able to cash in on.



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News of Venezuelan jets repeatedly flying over US warships in international waters was not well received, video of Trump and Dan Caine. Dumbest move ever from the Maduro Clique.



The Trump Administration ordered an additional 10 F35s to be deployed in Puerto Rico



In addition several Boeing KC 135 Stratotankers and KV 46A Pegasus refueling tankers have set off for the Caribbean

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Venezuela is continuing the process of setting up a citizens militia called the 'Bolivarian Militia', in many districts and cities registration offices and administrative chores have started.

 
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Thomas More said:
Up to now, the policy has been to chase a drug boat like this with a helicopter, then shoot the engines out with a sniper rifle. Once the boat is stopped, a patrol boat shows up and takes then into captivity. If the boat resists and shoots at either the helo or the patrol boat, then they get blasted, but it sounds like this boat got blasted as a first strike.
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Two month old video of a US Coast Guard team using high caliber sniper rifles to take out a drug smuggling vessel's engine. Team was deployed on a Dutch warship.

 
LaAguilaNegra said:
Two month old video of a US Coast Guard team using high caliber sniper rifles to take out a drug smuggling vessel's engine. Team was deployed on a Dutch warship.

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Is there really drug smuggling being done out of Venezuela and into the US in a freaking speedboat??? I know you're not from America, but have you even looked at a map of the Caribbean, LaNegra? They're going to sail 1,500 miles from the shores of Venezuela to south Florida - in a 25' speedboat??

Very little drug smuggling is being done from Venezuela into the US, most of it is from Mexico, Colombia, or even Canada and done through commercial shipping, not fancy, conspicuous speedboats that don't handle the high seas well, have a limited range and stick out like a sore thumb.


Furthermore most of the drug traffic into the US has been done under the effigy and financial oversight of the deep state, sourced by narco-states like Colombia, Panama that have been propped by the US, but that won't fit the narrative. You don't stop drug traffic with destroyers and F-35s, this is just an excuse to sabre-rattle against the one South American country that isn't colonized by the banksters, one that also happens to have the largest oil reserves in the world.

Footage like that above is just red meat for the more naive segment of MAGA.
 
Cooper said:
Is there really drug smuggling being done out of Venezuela and into the US in a freaking speedboat??? I know you're not from America, but have you even looked at a map of the Caribbean, LaNegra? They're going to sail 1,500 miles from the shores of Venezuela to south Florida - in a 25' speedboat??

Very little drug smuggling is being done from Venezuela into the US, most of it is from Mexico, Colombia, or even Canada and done through commercial shipping, not fancy, conspicuous speedboats that don't handle the high seas well, have a limited range and stick out like a sore thumb.


Furthermore most of the drug traffic into the US has been done under the effigy and financial oversight of the deep state, sourced by narco-states like Colombia, Panama that have been propped by the US, but that won't fit the narrative. You don't stop drug traffic with destroyers and F-35s, this is just an excuse to sabre-rattle against the one South American country that isn't colonized by the banksters, one that also happens to have the largest oil reserves in the world.

Footage like that above is just red meat for the more naive segment of MAGA.
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Yes.

There have been regular operations for decades to stop these boats as shown in the video posted earlier. I know people who have been involved in this. Venezeula is a common origin for these boats.
 
Makes sense, they probably catch up to large vessels that have already cleared customs and deliver the load, which is later dropped- before stopping at its destination or a calling port, depending on where it's going- to be picked up by similar boats
 
Maybe after the goal of regime change has been accomplished they'll have US military guarding the "drug boats" like they were guarding poppy fields in the middle east.
 
NSOE said:
Makes sense, they probably catch up to large vessels that have already cleared customs and deliver the load, which is later dropped- before stopping at its destination or a calling port, depending on where it's going- to be picked up by similar boats
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The speedboat from the footage above was near Venezuela, so nowhere near US Customs. It was a small vessel that was not going to sail over 1,500 miles crossing the entire Caribbean and Gulf to deliver drugs to the US.

This is a good rundown of the real situation wrt LatAm drug trafficking and DC obfuscation:

 
Cooper said:
The speedboat from the footage above was near Venezuela, so nowhere near US Customs.
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It should have been obvious I meant the customs of whatever country the large "mother ship" departed from, Trinidad (like the tanker Penelope as I'm writing this), Venezuela, or whatever, the bulk carrier African Puffin headed for New Orleans from South Africa, sailing nearby.

Trump kept saying on his campaign trail he wanted the death penalty for drug dealers and cop killers, lamenting the overdose death of his friend's son (Lutnick's). Clearly impossible to change all the laws, but people saw where his heart was, and they won't mind the extrajudicial initiative.

He also said at every stop that only American refineries had the technology to process that "Venezuelan" heavy tar. The Spanish never asked the UN for permission, neither did Bolivar, nor the Indians before Columbus, and if South Americans want to get to the US so desperately, it would be better if the US went to them instead, and introduces some ironfisted colonial administration lol. I want American based industrial and banking interests (before someone says 'Israeli', Jewish oligarchs employ Russian people in their country) to control that region and not the Russians or the Chinks, just like Putin is very grateful for Lenin, Stalin, Khrushchev, and Brezhnev to have secured Russia's interest and control abroad wherever they could.

I can add, normal people like me don't have any drug problems, I've always looked with hatred on those weak minded losers, I'm more mellow and charitable now, I hate the dealers and smugglers instead. As a freedom loving person I want the right to shoot them on the spot when they enter my neighborhood, that's the freedom to have your own rules and a drug free neighborhood, and then by extension a drug free country. This is very libertarian.
 
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^One of my main points was the fact that Venezuela is not a main source of drugs shipped to the US, a very small player next to Colombia for starts, and that the maneuver above is largely politically motivated PR stunt and not rooted in a wider and rational policy to keep America drug-free.
 
Case in popint -



"Marco Rubio is in Ecuador to tout Pres. Daniel Noboa as Washington's "top partner" in the war on drugs.

But Noboa and companies owned by his oligarch family are directly linked to the drug trade, as opposition candidate Luisa Gonzalez illustrated in this brutal debate takedown.

Every several months, European authorities find several tons of cocaine packed in Bonita Banana containers shipped from Ecuador.

Daniel Noboa has served as shipping director of Noboa Corporation. And as Gonzalez pointed out, his political career has been financed with drug money.

Noboa appears to have stolen the last election with the support of Trump-Rubio, who rushed to recognize him as the winner despite clear irregularities in the vote. Under his watch, 70% of all the world's cocaine now passes through Ecuador's ports."
 
They want to send a message, the mustache will import some Russian defense systems in response.

The ultimate question is who cultivates the coca shrubs? The cartels? In the 80s and 90s it was family operations, just like the poppy farmers in Afghanistan. If you asked them if they felt bad about it, they'd say why care about some gringo degenerates. Why not celery and carrots, honest and God fearing people don't make a living growing death. They could be subsistence farmers at worst, there's always something good to do if the people really want to.
 
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NSOE said:
They want to send a message, the mustache will import some Russian defense systems in response.

The ultimate question is who cultivates the coca shrubs? The cartels? In the 80s and 90s it was family operations, just like the poppy farmers in Afghanistan. If you asked them if they felt bad about it, they'd say why care about some gringo degenerates. Why not celery and carrots, honest and God fearing people don't make a living growing death. They could be subsistence farmers at worst, there's always something good to do if the people really want to.
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I can tell you one thing that is most relevant to this thread, basic fact that people like LaNegra will obfuscate, Venezuela had not been a major player in coca production, the sabre-rattling at Venezuela has nothing to do with drug traffic, that country is literally not even in the production picture. claiming that Maduro is some kind of a drug kingpin is complete bunk.

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