Donald Trump: Criticism & Debate Thread

As I mentioned way before the election, the problem is that the sentiment will swing to the left prior to the -28 election! Anyone associated with Trump will run for cover and be persona non grata in politics. This means most likely a radical left candidate will win in -28, so we have to wait almost 8 years before there is any hope of getting in someone that is worth something. It would have been better if Biden kept it together and won, it might have saved us four additional years of pain...

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Why did the good looking girl that makes the VP Trump press reports stop wearing the cross? Didn´t see it in the last news. Googled it and it looks like Jon Stewart member of the 1st class citizen of United States of Israel (UNI) made a joke about the cross. Saying it was a Pinochio Cross. The more she lies the bigger it gets. And the girl stopped wearing it. Why?
I like Stewart. But his goal is to make people laugh. He is irrelevant. Who cares what he thinks?

Unless the girl Karoline Levitt agrees with Stewart. And she started to feel wrong about wearing the cross and reporting Trump lies? Or was it because a first class citizen complained?

She should wear a GIGANTIC CROSS. And hold a virgin mary statue in the pulpit. And the background should be the vatican hologram or a christian site.

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Karoline Levitt ditches religious necklace after Jon Stewart’s brutal joke: ‘Some sort of weird Pinocchio cross’

‘By the way, I think that the more she lies, the bigger her cross gets,’ Daily Show host says of White House spokeswoman
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It is complete insanity that there are Americans will follow Trump no matter what he does, like some strange cult. Anyone who puts their trust in man should expect disappointment somewhere along the line, in fact most rational people understand this, but not those folks. This latest stunt turned me completely off from him, let alone what he promised with Ukraine/Russia. He's no different than every other presidents. America is cooked
 
I’ve seen enough from Trump now to draw the conclusion that he is not America first. At least not my America. I think that he is completely out of touch with the American public. A very small minority of Americans want: middle eastern intervention, public land sell off, Gaza turned into some hedonistic Trump branded Dubai, a gold plated Trump phone, and I could go on, but I’ve seen enough. I simply can’t root for him anymore. The man is not ultimately looking out for our best interests.
 
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stylus said:
It is complete insanity that there are Americans will follow Trump no matter what he does, like some strange cult. Anyone who puts their trust in man should expect disappointment somewhere along the line, in fact most rational people understand this, but not those folks. This latest stunt turned me completely off from him, let alone what he promised with Ukraine/Russia. He's no different than every other presidents. America is cooked
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The two party system is genius because it allows both parties to endlessly scapegoat the other when they both inevitably lie and don't follow through, and people still believe it.
 
Vas Incrementum said:
Mustn't blame Trump, it's the boomers. They made him do it. Honestly, this forum. It's like being among a classroom of petulant, resentful children at times. If you want to look for a culprit to blame, look in the mirror. Trump is just a part of the show, the pantomime.

Propaganda, perception management is real and is safe and effective.

In this past week Parliament have decriminalised abortion and legalised assisted dying. Satanic sacrifice of the most vulnerable, cloaked in the usual weasel words, is legal here in the country of my birth and it wasn't boomers who introduced these bills or voted them in.
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The boomers made him do it?

Someone made him do it, but it wasn't a bunch of retired Fox News viewers. And Trump has been tied at the hip with them since the 1970's.
 
GodfatherPartTwo said:
The two party system is genius because it allows both parties to endlessly scapegoat the other when they both inevitably lie and don't follow through, and people still believe it.
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Yes, Hitler described this in the 1920's. Democracy is their preferred system. They can control both sides, get what they want, give the people the false sense they are in control, and then the people blame each other and not the man behind the curtain.
 
magoo said:
DJ Vance is worse than Trump. Trump still has the newly rich flair. Vance is a backstabbing social climber phsyco. This is all irrelevant. Israel is the place where the power is.
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Yes, he is the perfect face for the satanic elite, a complete made up person, doesn't even use his real name, and is the type who is willing to do anything to fill the void in his being.
 
Between posting an endorsement for Iranian regime change (throwing in a "MIGA" while he was at it - is he taunting us?) to pledging to personally campaign to unseat Thomas Massie in Kentucky, Trump seems bound and determined to kick his base squarely in the balls. The neocons are gleeful right now, the MAGA red hats bewildered and angry, a sick feeling rising in their stomachs, wondering what the hell just happened. It's impossible to feel anything but betrayal with these sort of actions from Trump. It's getting to the point that even his staunchest defenders can't really say anything in his defense, except that it probably would have been worse under Kamala, and that Trump has no choice but to work with the Jews (read: do their bidding at the expense of the United States). It's a sad state of affairs.
 
scorpion said:
Between posting an endorsement for Iranian regime change (throwing in a "MIGA" while he was at it - is he taunting us?) to pledging to personally campaign to unseat Thomas Massie in Kentucky, Trump seems bound and determined to kick his base squarely in the balls. The neocons are gleeful right now, the MAGA red hats bewildered and angry, a sick feeling rising in their stomachs, wondering what the hell just happened. It's impossible to feel anything but betrayal with these sort of actions from Trump. It's getting to the point that even his staunchest defenders can't really say anything in his defense, except that it probably would have been worse under Kamala, and that Trump has no choice but to work with the Jews (read: do their bidding at the expense of the United States). It's a sad state of affairs.
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For anyone who didn't expect this, I suggest looking a lot more into Roy Cohn, Trump's likely lawsuit loss in the 1970's that Cohn saved him from, and the now payback for it all.
 
All the talk of "diplomacy" was just to throw you off the scent. Like some jack ass who beats his girlfriend up and tells her he loves her. You should believe the beating, not the words. TPTB have every intention of dragging us into a war. Right now they are in the process of selling it. They keep trying to make it look like they are not the aggressors, that Iran "forced their hand", and that they "just had to do it."
 
Get2choppaaa said:
I dont like this action and think it was a bad move.

But...A lot could happen. Typically we see Trump making outrageous claims only to meet somewhere in the middle.

Hopefully it's that. The likely hood of us getting into a long protracted war is just not in the realm of the possible.
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Its not up to him. He actually have been doing reasonable claims. Its his boss who his a lunatic. But anyway thats not on his level of power. The real president of USA will decide. It will be up to Netanyahu. Pay attention to Netanyahu. Forget Trump. US has a vassal state will follow the lead of Israel. Maybe some sector of MAGA still deluded will try to salvage the movement. But jews dont give a shit about MAGA. And will destroy it if it impedes their objectives.

People say its because blackmail or money AIPAC. The reason is irrelevant. The power is in Israel. Israel commands and US obeys. Like an alcoholic you might not want to recognize this problem. But its there. You dont drink because you want. You drink because you are addicted.

Everyday I read the covers (not the entire Newspaper) of a lot of newspapers. I will add israelis.

I expect jews to want more. Like they always do. Maybe they will feel the room. And pause. But I doubt it. This war is worse cause it seems jews are much more in control of US. Time will tell. People are still thinking we are in 1990. We are in 2025.

Netanyahu will decide what happens next.

The joke was: iranians are about to find out why americans dont have free health care.
 
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I still think there's a part of Trump that still cares about his legacy, and wants to be remembered fondly by the common people, not just fanatical boomers.

I'm hanging on to a shred of hope that he'll say "We already destroyed their nuclear sites" and wash his hands of it and let Israel and Iran sort out the rest, and get back to focusing on what people elected him to do.

Yeah yeah, go ahead and laugh. Not saying it's likely, but I hope that's what happens.
 
mountainaire said:
I still think there's a part of Trump that still cares about his legacy, and wants to be remembered fondly by the common people, not just fanatical boomers.

I'm hanging on to a shred of hope that he'll say "We already destroyed their nuclear sites" and wash his hands of it and let Israel and Iran sort out the rest, and get back to focusing on what people elected him to do.

Yeah yeah, go ahead and laugh. Not saying it's likely, but I hope that's what happens.
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It's possible, kinda like the two much smaller bombings of Syria that kept the warhawks off his back for a while and did almost no harm.
 
mountainaire said:
I still think there's a part of Trump that still cares about his legacy, and wants to be remembered fondly by the common people, not just fanatical boomers.

I'm hanging on to a shred of hope that he'll say "We already destroyed their nuclear sites" and wash his hands of it and let Israel and Iran sort out the rest, and get back to focusing on what people elected him to do.

Yeah yeah, go ahead and laugh. Not saying it's likely, but I hope that's what happens.
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I think this is the most likely outcome because doomers are almost always wrong. I will be surprised if Trump orders a ground war against Iran, if he does that then he's lost his mind. I just don't see that happening, although the fact we are even considering such a possibility is a bad sign.

My odds are 5% chance of ground war, 95% of just missile exchanges (a missile match) and Iran gets clobbered.
 
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