The Iran and Wider Middle East Thread

MTG says it all, superb post 4M views and counting:



"Everyone is finding out who are real America First/MAGA and who were fake and just said it bc it was popular.

Unfortunately the list of fakes are becoming quite long and exposed themselves quickly.

Anyone slobbering for the U.S. to become fully involved in the Israel/Iran war is not America First/MAGA.

Wishing for murder of innocent people is disgusting.We are sick and tired of foreign wars. All of them.And this one will quickly engulf the Middle East, BRICS, and NATO as countries are required to take a side.

Real America First/MAGA wants world peace for all people and doesn’t want our military killed and forever injured physically and mentally. We love our U.S. military and love them helping to secure our borders and our cities for the defense of OUR PEOPLE AND OUR COUNTRY.

They are our friends, spouses, cousins, nieces, nephews, sisters, brothers, sons, and daughters.

We have spent TRILLIONS in the Middle East and we have dealt with the aftermath of death, blown apart bodies, never ending suicides, and disabling PTSD.

All because they told us propaganda as to why we must sacrifice our own to defend some other country’s borders and some other country’s borders.

I don’t want to see Israel bombed or Iran bombed or Gaza bombed.

I don’t want to see Ukraine bombed or Russia bombed.

And we do NOT want to be involved or required to pay for ANY OF IT!!!

We are $36+ TRILLION in debt and have mountains of our own problems.

We have giant planks sticking out of our own eyes while we complain about splinters in other’s eyes.

Every country involved and all over the world can be happy, successful, and rich if we all work together and seek peace and prosperity.

Taking this position is NOT antisemitic.

It’s rational, sane, and loving toward all people.

Taking this position of peace and prosperity for all is not isolationism, it leads to GREAT trade deals and GREAT economies that help ALL PEOPLE.

It’s what many Americans voted for in 2024.America First!America First!!America First!!!

That is how we Make America Great Again!!!!!"


Well maybe just waive the "debt" which is owed to who exactly?
 
"Everyone is finding out who are real America First/MAGA and who were fake and just said it bc it was popular.

Unfortunately the list of fakes are becoming quite long and exposed themselves quickly.
Case in point...


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Not sure how Iran can close down strait of Hormez without alienating the rest of the Arab world. I don't think Iran can afford to make more enemies.

That's why they are just striking Israel, not American bases, nor shutting down the strait. I think it's really their only play right now.

What it really comes down to is public morale. Which side will give up first? If Iranians rally around their government then this war will could last a decade. I don't think Israeli citizens are as motivated. They need a fast victory or for America to step in.

Bibi is surviving by a political thread right now. His ruling coalition survived by exactly 1 vote, he managed to buy himself a few extra months until the next coalition vote. That's why he's attacking Iran, encouraging chaos to stay in power and avoid jail. He's a little Stalin and I can't believe he gets any respect from America. Surely even our bought out politicians can see this guy isn't popular in Israel.
 
He has Iran's IQ being in the 80s.
Also everybody needs to remember Iran has had massive brain drain ever since it became an Islamic Republic. The best and brightest in Iran have been leaving the country for decades now. Plenty of Iranian engineers, doctors, software developers, businessmen etc living in the west currently. This has pushed down the average IQ of the remaining population in Iran.
 
Also everybody needs to remember Iran has had massive brain drain ever since it became an Islamic Republic. The best and brightest in Iran have been leaving the country for decades now. Plenty of Iranian engineers, doctors, software developers, businessmen etc living in the west currently. This has pushed down the average IQ of the remaining population in Iran.
We are not seeing these results in the real world. The west is in in a worse place since bringing in these "engineers" while Iran is developing technology, for pennies on a dollar, that challenges us, despite heavy sanctions.
 
We are not seeing these results in the real world.
Capable people in the west are hamstrung by the DEI system and idiocracy. If you are a good engineer working for a woke company all your hard work will just get flushed down the toilet because the higher ups are morons. Boeing had a lot of smart engineers but the greedy financial people in Boeing overruled them and cut corners to boost short term profits and thereby their bonuses.
 
We are not seeing these results in the real world. The west is in in a worse place since bringing in these "engineers" while Iran is developing technology, for pennies on a dollar, that challenges us, despite heavy sanctions.

I find the opposite to be true regarding Iranians in the West now. I had an Iranian doctor who was great but went back to Iran and now I'm stuck with Indians or Chinese, I prefer the Chinese which is strange to say but the healthcare has greatly diminished in the West in general.
 

Update(1026ET): Below is Fox News' chief national security correspondent Jennifer Griffin confirming a major breaking development:

CONFIRMED: The USS Nimitz aircraft carrier strike group is on its way to the Middle East from the South China Sea, a U.S. official tells Fox News. The Nimitz was previously scheduled to replace the USS Carl Vinson carrier strike group which has been deployed for several months, but is now heading to the Middle East ahead of schedule. The two will now be in the Middle East at the same time. The USS Nimitz is the oldest active aircraft carrier in the U.S. Navy, commissioned on May 3, 1975. Scheduled to be decommissioned in 2026, this is possibly its final sea voyage. This is a very significant symbolic deployment because it was deployed in 1980 and its helicopters that were part of the failed US effort known as Operation Eagle Claw to rescue the American hostages being held at the US Embassy in Tehran. The US has been in a shadow war against Iran ever since.

This comes on the heels of reports that the US Embassy in Tel Aviv suffered "minor damage" from a nearby Iranian ballistic missile impact.





 
Capable people in the west are hamstrung by the DEI system and idiocracy. If you are a good engineer working for a woke company all your hard work will just get flushed down the toilet because the higher ups are morons. Boeing had a lot of smart engineers but the greedy financial people in Boeing overruled them and cut corners to boost short term profits and thereby their bonuses.
MENA can qualify for diversity.

You are correct that the west is badly run and potential is wasted, but there are a lot of high IQ people remaining in Iran.
 
Not sure how Iran can close down strait of Hormez without alienating the rest of the Arab world. I don't think Iran can afford to make more enemies.

That's why they are just striking Israel, not American bases, nor shutting down the strait. I think it's really their only play right now.

If You're thinking about that electronic interference in the gulf, that's most likely just a countermeasure against Israeli drones and GPS guided munitions.
Now, can Iran close the straits? We know from the Red Sea crisis that they have the means to do it. But I don't think they will, because if they close the straits, the US won't have a choice but to step in and force it open. So far Trump is pretty reluctant to strike Iran, but a risk of a global oil crisis would force his hand.
 
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