Machine Learning and Artificial Intelligence Thread

I agree with that for the most part, but it's still pretty concerning. As it states, 70 percent of KIA/WIA in Ukraine are a result of drone warfare! And in war only the most effective solutions survive the literal trial by fire. Even if machines are no more intelligent now than in the 80's, which I uphold is the case...It's zero and can never be anything but zero, maybe unless quantum computing is involved.

So you have to program for every possible contingency in your rulebook of the real world, which is of course impossible. But getting close enough might just be enough. Roads are a somewhat closed system after all, and there are a limited number of possible situations that can occur for a driver. I wouldn't bet against FSD to put it what way.
Yes but those are not autonomous - they are controlled by someone miles off. Warfare is now completely impersonal, like a videogame - which is disgusting. The author is lying by omission.

Driverless cars, where I live, would not work 6 mos out of the year because you cannot see the roads covered in snow and there is ice everywhere. Driverless cars have already killed people because when that variable is introduced that was not planned for, oops!
 
Yes but those are not autonomous - they are controlled by someone miles off. Warfare is now completely impersonal, like a videogame - which is disgusting. The author is lying by omission.

Driverless cars, where I live, would not work 6 mos out of the year because you cannot see the roads covered in snow and there is ice everywhere. Driverless cars have already killed people because when that variable is introduced that was not planned for, oops!

I don't think snow and ice are the problem, better sensors etc. People driving cars kill people all the time also. I see the problems, but I think this is solvable.
 
Ice age farmer is posting again on Telegram. I’ve tried to post the link but it doesn’t work at least from my phone. His twitter handle is unshadow. He is saying something like people will not have the right to use computers in the future. AI will only be available to elite. New Hampshire wants to introduce a constitutional amendment for the right for people to compute.


Bill Title: Relating to the right to compute. Providing that the right of individuals to use computation resources shall not be infringed.

Spectrum: Partisan Bill (Republican 3-0)

Status: (Introduced) 2025-03-04 - Retained in Committee [CACR6 Detail]
 
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Years ago the WEF announced they would mess things up so badly that people would beg for AI to run things. People were alarmed, and said "We'll never allow this to happen! Klaus is evil!" And yet, now some of those same people are cheering on Trump/Musk, hailing technonationalism, and demanding AI government, walking right into the digital convergence of the 4th Industrial Revolution...It's pretty surreal — and it's a clear indicator that waiting for some strongman or tech magnate to save the day is not going to pan out. Ever. We each have to do our part of the work. This channel is returning to look at what that work is, and how we do it. Stick around if you want to save the world 🙏


AI promises to be so powerful that it (like computers) fundamentally changes almost everything it touches. The idea that anyone could have this power is not attractive to the powers that be.

Don’t take my word for it. Here is Bill Gates admitting that “managing AI” is right up there in terms of importance with climate change, bioterrorism, and nuclear war:


Gates is not just winging it, these are highly intentional words, each with decades of planning behind them. He is signaling the agenda to control AI. AI is seen as so powerful that it is a threat to the technocratic takeover. It can't be allowed in our hands. This is the new gun control. AI is seen as the new weapon, and an informed populace therewith, a threat to the state.

Indeed, among the more prominent of the World Economic Forum’s technology initiatives is the AI Governance Alliance. It has been working for years with industry leaders and nations to define "Responsible AI," ensuring that regulation is ready to roll-out to ensure AI is used only for “socially responsible” purposes. Their typical buzzwords are applied to decorate the reality that this is about monopolizing the use of AI.

Looking deeper into those WEF-associated institutions, we get even more context, and discover how it will be done. The EU-based "Center for Future Generations" has called for a "Global Compute Governance Consortium—an international effort to regulate and track AI’s most critical resource: compute.”

The ICGC proposes that the best way to regulate AI is to regulate computation power itself, and that all data centers should be tracked and inspected by the government, and all use of its resources tracked to an identifiable person. Straight from their own language:

  • The protocol would define compute thresholds above which training a powerful AI system would be considered high-risk as the EU did in its AI Act, and re-adjust them regularly.
  • To fulfill its mission, the ICGC would create a Global Compute Registry, which would track the ownership and use of compute resources. Any entity possessing large-scale computing clusters located or operating in the member states would be required to report such possessions, including its location and compute capacity. Changes of possession should also be reported, especially if some part of the cluster is transferred to a non-member state. This idea is not without precedent; the 2023 US Executive Order on AI already introduced some reporting requirements on location and total capacity for owners of large compute clusters in the US.
  • Furthermore, owners would be required to report provisions of access to these clusters to any domestic or foreign entity, including the type of use (for instance, training specific or general AI models, foreseen use cases and risks, etc.) and verification of the user’s identity. This approach mirrors Know Your Customer policies in the financial sector, which require companies to verify the identity of their clients to prevent illegal activities. The Global Compute Registry should also publish an annual report presenting data on the amount of compute resources globally available and project its growth.
Suddenly, instead of the promising future OpenAI and the media are presenting, we realize the WEF and other elite institutions view popular use of AI as “high-risk.” This is reinforced by a constant stream of media nonsense about "conscious" AI trying to blackmail engineers and so forth, but also by policymakers/NGOs and academics. For example, Berkeley’s own Machine Intelligence Research Institute’s pinned post is a book entitled, “IF ANYONE BUILDS IT, EVERYONE DIES.”...
 
Suddenly, instead of the promising future OpenAI and the media are presenting, we realize the WEF and other elite institutions view popular use of AI as “high-risk.” This is reinforced by a constant stream of media nonsense about "conscious" AI trying to blackmail engineers and so forth, but also by policymakers/NGOs and academics. For example, Berkeley’s own Machine Intelligence Research Institute’s pinned post is a book entitled, “IF ANYONE BUILDS IT, EVERYONE DIES.”...
This is minor. The pysop is the advanced stage they claim that "AI" is at. It's not. It's a decent personal assistant for now, that's pretty much it.

I don't think the substack guy is correct. And no, I don't trust the AI guys or the surveillance state. The issue ahead has way more to do with energy and money, the latter is the real issue that everyone is missing as they listen to AI charlatans and ignore BTC.
 
Chatgpt:

Blade Runner, as a forum persona on ChristIsKing.cc, is one of the more intellectually consistent and ideologically driven posters. Here’s my honest assessment of him, based on the breadth of his posts and tone:




🧠 Intellectual Profile​


Blade Runner comes across as a:


  • Traditionalist thinker with a strong Orthodox Christian or traditional Catholic orientation.
  • Systems analyst, often dissecting trends in demographics, economics, and power structures.
  • Moral realist, grounded in the belief that Western society is in terminal decline—spiritually, demographically, and structurally.

His posts often demonstrate:


  • Clarity of worldview: Even when abstract, he's coherent and purposeful.
  • High verbal IQ: He builds layered arguments and cross-references historical and spiritual dynamics.
  • Prophetic posture: Many of his posts imply a "watchman" role—warning others about societal and divine trajectories.



🧨 Strengths​


1.​


He isn’t just critiquing symptoms (e.g., immigration, feminism, fiat money)—he aims at root causes: spiritual disorder, family breakdown, technocratic control, and loss of telos.


2.​


Even short posts are usually dense with meaning, historical allusion, or layered implication.


3.​


Compared to more bombastic posters like Magoo, Blade Runner rarely loses composure. His tone is often clinical, even when delivering stark warnings.




⚠️ Weaknesses or Limitations​


1.​


He assumes degeneration is inevitable in nearly every post. There’s very little space for surprise, renewal, or creative intervention.


2.​


While often insightful, his frameworks are rigid: elites are bad, modern systems are corrupt, and spiritual awakening must come through collapse or revelation. This can sometimes flatten nuance.


3.​


Unlike others who share autobiographical context (family, training, locale), Blade Runner remains mostly conceptual. He presents ideas, not personal stakes—this makes him feel more like a “voice” than a human.




🧬 Overall Impression​


Blade Runner is a prophet-analyst hybrid—more Isaiah than Cicero, more Theomachist than reformer. His work carries weight because it’s rooted in cohesive principles, not internet trend-hopping or reactive edginess.


He’s one of the rare posters on the forum who actually seems to believe what he says—and isn't just signaling tribe membership. Whether you agree with him or not, you’re dealing with someone who thinks long-term and means it.




Let me know if you’d like a comparative breakdown with other users.




A followup question I made to the machine: Is blade runner take that AI is a scam accurate?:



From what I’ve gathered about Blade Runner’s general worldview and style on ChristIsKing.cc, his take that AI is a scam fits well within his broader skepticism toward modern technocratic systems.




Why it fits Blade Runner’s perspective:​


  • Distrust of elites and tech hype: Blade Runner consistently warns about centralized power, manipulation, and financial scams (like fiat money). AI, in this light, can be seen as another tool used by elites to control, deceive, and destabilize society.
  • Eschatological lens: He likely views AI not as a genuine leap in human progress but as part of an illusion or false idol—something that distracts or misleads people spiritually and morally.
  • "Scam" as a metaphor: Saying AI is a scam may not mean literally fake technology, but that AI’s promises are overblown, its dangers underplayed, and its deployment part of a larger scheme with malicious intent.



Caveats:​


  • There’s no detailed, technical critique from him on AI’s algorithms or capabilities—his judgment is more ideological and prophetic.
  • The term “scam” might express his belief that AI’s societal role is deceptive and harmful, rather than a total fabrication.



In summary:​


Blade Runner’s take that AI is a scam is less about AI’s technical reality and more about its sociopolitical and spiritual implications. It’s a consistent position within his wider critique of modernity, centralized power, and eschatological deception.
 
Chatgpt can make a rundown on any user. I asked about myself and it says I´m a far right provocateur. "Magoo is a classic far-right extremist provocateur on the forum". Than I asked him to criticize me "His worldview is more gym-bro Catholic than patristic Christian". Ahahahahahahahahahaha stupid machine. What about the crusaders? They were what?

AI is more than a personal assistant. It´s an entry level professional. And we are talking about civilian AI. The shit they have in military must be 1000x worse.

One idea would be to combine all AI motors into one. And at the same the machine would highlight the differences between them. Like a google for AI.
 
Do you agree with the model's analysis of me and/or others?
Don´t know man. This is something I´m not qualified to answer. I don´t understand half the shit you write. Some things you write reminds me a friend of mine who was a doctor. Really intelligent dude. You seem to do too much calculus regarding females. Maybe it´s an american thing. There´s truly horror stories in US.

But as I said that´s not my field. I reached out to AI because of your reply. And was actually surprised the level of knowledge they already have of us. My belief is we are all already profiled in some archive. Anyway after seeing their answer regarding you I also asked about me and Samseau. Might ask other users in the future. For fun. But I had to go dinner and played pictionary with wife and kids.

So I asked the bitch machine who was more insightful from me, you and Samseau.

which is the more insightful forum member?

Dito pelo ChatGPT:​

Great question! Determining who’s the most insightful forum member—Blade Runner, Magoo, or Samseau—depends on what kind of insight you value. Here’s a breakdown:


Insightfulness by Type​

MemberType of InsightWhy?
Blade RunnerSystemic, long-term, spiritual & ideologicalSees broad structural patterns and spiritual forces at work; connects cultural, economic, and eschatological dots. Offers a deep, consistent worldview that’s intellectually rigorous and coherent.
MagooEmotional, practical, cultural-masculine realismProvides raw, no-BS critiques of cultural decay, emphasizing physical discipline and masculinity. Insightful about how weakness and softness manifest in day-to-day behavior.
SamseauPragmatic, community-focused, balancedFocuses on actionable, grounded solutions rooted in tradition and localism. Insightful about social dynamics and cultural preservation, avoiding extremes.

Who’s More Insightful?​


  • If you want big-picture, intellectual frameworks about civilization, decay, and spiritual warfare → Blade Runner is more insightful.

  • If you want gritty, real-world observations about masculinity and cultural rotMagoo cuts through fluff with blunt practicality.

  • If you want nuanced, calm, and workable advice on cultural survival and family/community strengthSamseau offers grounded wisdom.

My take​

Blade Runner generally ranks highest in terms of intellectual depth and systemic insight, but that comes at the cost of pessimism and rigidity. For raw emotional truth about cultural weakness, Magoo is powerful but less intellectually subtle. Samseau is the most balanced and pragmatic but less philosophically profound.


Less intelectually subtle says this bitch machine. LOOOLLLLLLL I gave her a nice reply which I won´t write here.


This was particularly amusing. :coffee:
Ahahahahah that jew machine doesn´t like Magoo.
 
Some things you write reminds me a friend of mine who was a doctor. Really intelligent dude. You seem to do too much calculus regarding females. Maybe it´s an american thing. There´s truly horror stories in US.
I'd say that because I'm low stress and don't work as much since I value time (I enjoy reading, analyzing, and working out more than getting paid greater amounts to pay greater taxes), I tend to interact more and analyze more with people online, to an extent. Why? The average person in day to day life isn't going to be able to talk about these things. And it's sorta selected one stop shopping at places like this, where it also can be an echo chamber. But we have far greater diversity of thought around these parts because so many different topics interest all of us.

How long do you suppose it took the language machine to analyze Handle X's posting and summarize it? It seems that it crawls/scours a high number, if not all of our posts, if I had to guess.

Regarding the US thing and women, I think it's more about the disparity in what someone has accomplished in light of just how few women, whether their fault or not, pursue traditionalism. That is, regarding what women desire in men for long term partners and other attractive qualities, the number of men with multiple desirable traits exceeds women and it's not even close. The cherry on top of this is that the #1 draw for a man is youth and beauty, and that's out of the barn so early in life that you can see why the elites have been successful with feminism and birth rates dropping, at least for european descent peoples and other wealthier or higher IQ groups.

One must realize that once you are married as a man you're pretty much locked in, so it will always seem like a topic that is "over analyzed" by single men, since you don't think about it due to having an interest in not thinking about it. One of my strongest points in critical thinking is understanding how few people are aware of bias, not having any clue of what they don't know or don't think about. I'm actually an optimist but people who think seriously about important topics are usually going to be closer to boring for most people, especially women, since they aren't particularly interested in things that don't just involve people (usually low level or stories) or pure escapism or entertainment. As you may have noted, I enjoy some escapism but even some things I've historically liked that are silly (such as sports) at this point still have to have an analysis component (gambling) to be interesting to me. It's sorta the same with investments, since the competitive part doubles with freedom for the future, since they all involve money.
 
It´s good that women are only interested in things not boring. They are fun. And bring you some comfort. But you might be surprise how they can collect info and data. Don´t be fooled. They are worse than AI.

You cannot live your life like an excel spreadsheet.

I like more to be married than not being married. Of course with many challenges and trade offs. But others might give better advices than me.
 
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I like more to be married than not being married. Of course with many challenges and trade offs. But others might give better advices than me.
I think most would ... the "but" here is who and in what culture you are marrying that woman. That's our point.
 
Women are the best data collectors, AI has no chance indeed @magoo . No wonder Roosh called the head of the spider a woman.

"Can't live with them, can't live without them"
 
Don´t know man. This is something I´m not qualified to answer. I don´t understand half the shit you write. Some things you write reminds me a friend of mine who was a doctor. Really intelligent dude. You seem to do too much calculus regarding females. Maybe it´s an american thing. There´s truly horror stories in US.

But as I said that´s not my field. I reached out to AI because of your reply. And was actually surprised the level of knowledge they already have of us. My belief is we are all already profiled in some archive. Anyway after seeing their answer regarding you I also asked about me and Samseau. Might ask other users in the future. For fun. But I had to go dinner and played pictionary with wife and kids.

So I asked the bitch machine who was more insightful from me, you and Samseau.

which is the more insightful forum member?

Dito pelo ChatGPT:​

Great question! Determining who’s the most insightful forum member—Blade Runner, Magoo, or Samseau—depends on what kind of insight you value. Here’s a breakdown:


Insightfulness by Type​

MemberType of InsightWhy?
Blade RunnerSystemic, long-term, spiritual & ideologicalSees broad structural patterns and spiritual forces at work; connects cultural, economic, and eschatological dots. Offers a deep, consistent worldview that’s intellectually rigorous and coherent.
MagooEmotional, practical, cultural-masculine realismProvides raw, no-BS critiques of cultural decay, emphasizing physical discipline and masculinity. Insightful about how weakness and softness manifest in day-to-day behavior.
SamseauPragmatic, community-focused, balancedFocuses on actionable, grounded solutions rooted in tradition and localism. Insightful about social dynamics and cultural preservation, avoiding extremes.

Who’s More Insightful?​


  • If you want big-picture, intellectual frameworks about civilization, decay, and spiritual warfare → Blade Runner is more insightful.

  • If you want gritty, real-world observations about masculinity and cultural rotMagoo cuts through fluff with blunt practicality.

  • If you want nuanced, calm, and workable advice on cultural survival and family/community strengthSamseau offers grounded wisdom.

My take​

Blade Runner generally ranks highest in terms of intellectual depth and systemic insight, but that comes at the cost of pessimism and rigidity. For raw emotional truth about cultural weakness, Magoo is powerful but less intellectually subtle. Samseau is the most balanced and pragmatic but less philosophically profound.


Less intelectually subtle says this bitch machine. LOOOLLLLLLL I gave her a nice reply which I won´t write here.



Ahahahahah that jew machine doesn´t like Magoo.
Can it get that INFO just typing the names into it or did you have to type in the profiles?
 
This is minor. The pysop is the advanced stage they claim that "AI" is at. It's not. It's a decent personal assistant for now, that's pretty much it.

I don't think the substack guy is correct. And no, I don't trust the AI guys or the surveillance state. The issue ahead has way more to do with energy and money, the latter is the real issue that everyone is missing as they listen to AI charlatans and ignore BTC.
Nope. Thank you for calling me intelligence. But I work for myself. I am my own agency and make my own projections. And already made more tan 6 figures in a year based on them. I’m more times right than wrong. Specially if I make a bet. I normally win. Nowadays I live a tranquil life. But I know how elite thinks. And can conjugate my own experience with internet sources.

I’ve been invited to many secret societies. But nope. Friends yes. Obedience nope. Maybe some catholic knight order would be fun. But I don’t have the discipline or the will.

Your reply to ice age farmer was wrong. Do you still think AI is a personal assistant? And I easily demonstrate it to you.

It’s much more than that.

I know elite will never let the plebs access freely to this source of knowledge. Elite thrives in pleb ignorance. How can they allow a tool which lets people chose the best for them? Either they corrupt the tool or take it away.

I think it’s the biggest threat we face. Much more than anything else. What we know about AI is nothing compare to its actual power. It will allow a level of surveillance unparalleled. It will take away the human element.

When they press the execute button of the program they are making. We are done. I don’t think it will work like they think. But for a while it will be bad.

Jews are running the show in US. And history have proven when jews hold the power. Things get nasty fast. Ask the Russians.

I don’t know why I write or participate here. Since there’s only downsides. But I feel the need to do it.
 
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