Jews' Own System Turning Against Them

[Aldebaran]

I think they may end up switching from the USA to Russia. The USA is cooked, no one here supports Israel under 30 and the country is falling behind technology wise to China and Russia.

Yes, Russia has been partnered with Iran, but I can see Israel strong arming their way in and using Russia as their next defender. I hope I am wrong.

Switching? They have had close covert ties with Russia and China going back for decades.

There is no switching here. They are playing all sides at once. The only side that has any real leverage against that satanic country is China, because they are not thoroughly compromised by dual citizens. That is also why China is designated as US enemy number 1, far above Russia or even Iran (which is mostly treated as the inferior and irrelevant craphole that it is).

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

Switching? They have had close covert ties with Russia and China going back for decades.

There is no switching here. They are playing all sides at once. The only side that has any real leverage against that satanic country is China, because they are not thoroughly compromised by dual citizens. That is also why China is designated as US enemy number 1, far above Russia or even Iran (which is mostly treated as the inferior and irrelevant craphole that it is).

Israel never had super close ties with Russia, they did with the Soviet Union, until Stalin turned his back on them and the ended dying a few months later, in which many think he was poisoned. They are not enemies, just Russia has never handed Israel billions of dollars like the USA does every year.

China is for the two-state solution and Israel will have to really do some work to get China to supply them with weapons and free money like the USA does. Good luck on Israel pulling that one off.

 

[Aldebaran]

Israel never had super close ties with Russia, they did with the Soviet Union, until Stalin turned his back on them and the ended dying a few months later, in which many think he was poisoned. They are not enemies, just Russia has never handed Israel billions of dollars like the USA does every year.

They do, though. Sure, Russia is not the same cash cow that the US is, but they help them in other ways.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/a-nationalist-streak-runs-though-putins-love-for-jews-and-israel/

China is for the two-state solution and Israel will have to really do some work to get China to supply them with weapons and free money like the USA does. Good luck on Israel pulling that one off.

They can't pull that off. Like Israel, China will act according to their own interests. That is why China is enemy number 1.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

They do, though. Sure, Russia is not the same cash cow that the US is, but they help them in other ways.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/a-nationalist-streak-runs-though-putins-love-for-jews-and-israel/

They can't pull that off. Like Israel, China will act according to their own interests. That is why China is enemy number 1.

Israel is going to have to do something with the USA crashing down and even Trump can't get young men to sign up for our military.

 

[Aldebaran]

Israel is going to have to do something with the USA crashing down and even Trump can't get young men to sign up for our military.

 

[TruckDriver9]

Israel is going to have to do something with the USA crashing down and even Trump can't get young men to sign up for our military.

Military recruitment numbers are up across the board:

The numbers don’t lie. As of February 2025, the Army has already recruited 23,586 new soldiers, an astonishing 115% of its cumulative goal for this period of the fiscal year. The Navy sits at 105%, the Marine Corps at 106%, and both the Air Force and Space Force have hit their targets right on schedule. This isn’t just a statistical rebound, it’s a cultural one. The military is once again a magnet for those who believe in duty, honor and country.

America’s warrior spirit and recruits return

www.stripes.com

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

Military recruitment numbers are up across the board:

America’s warrior spirit and recruits return

www.stripes.com

Up, compared to record lows, in a trash economy. Now that people see Trump isn't serious, it will go back down, even if the economy stays in the dumpster. Start a war with Iran and it will rightfully collapse next to 0.

 

[analyst_green]

Up, compared to record lows, in a trash economy. Now that people see Trump isn't serious, it will go back down, even if the economy stays in the dumpster. Start a war with Iran and it will rightfully collapse next to 0.

War with Iran would almost certainly necessitate a draft. That is a massive country with a lot of weapons, it's no Iraq or Afghanistan.

 

[TruckDriver9]

Up, compared to record lows, in a trash economy. Now that people see Trump isn't serious, it will go back down, even if the economy stays in the dumpster. Start a war with Iran and it will rightfully collapse next to 0.

Up compared to the DoD goals, not just the previous years. In part it's the economy, but there's also a "Hegseth effect" - chad energy from SecDef himself, and getting rid of all the woke BS.

 

[Cooper]

War with Iran would almost certainly necessitate a draft. That is a massive country with a lot of weapons, it's no Iraq or Afghanistan.

War with Iran would essentially be just a bombing campaign where the US would conduct bombing raids and Iran would strike back with missiles against US bases and targets. The US cannot amass troops and build a huge staging ground with supply lines on Iranian borders, unlike against Iraq when the US Army was unimpeded in its buildup in Saudi Arabia.

US losses would be in the thousands, Iranian in the tens of thousands, and Iran would blockade the Straight of Hormuz pushing oil prices to previously unseen levels. The economies of Japan, S Korea, India and western Europe would fall in deep recessions. China might fare better if they get first dibs on Russian oil, the US would also fare better with domestic production and first dibs on Canadian oil.

 

[homersheineken]

War with Iran would essentially be just a bombing campaign where the US would conduct bombing raids and Iran would strike back with missiles against US bases and targets. The US cannot amass troops and build a huge staging ground with supply lines on Iranian borders, unlike against Iraq when the US Army was unimpeded in its buildup in Saudi Arabia.

US losses would be in the thousands, Iranian in the tens of thousands, and Iran would blockade the Straight of Hormuz pushing oil prices to previously unseen levels. The economies of Japan, S Korea, India and western Europe would fall in deep recessions. China might fare better if they get first dibs on Russian oil, the US would also fare better with domestic production and first dibs on Canadian oil.

This would be acceptable to Israel.

I wouldn't rule anything out as long as we have money and manpower as a vassal state.

Afghanistan, Vietnam, Iraq.... If we have to sacrifce thousands of soldiers and trillions of dollars, this is an acceptable remittance to those in charge of Congress.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

This would be acceptable to Israel.

I wouldn't rule anything out as long as we have money and manpower as a vassal state.

Afghanistan, Vietnam, Iraq.... If we have to sacrifce thousands of soldiers and trillions of dollars, this is an acceptable remittance to those in charge of Congress.

The American public would not support it, unlike with the other conflicts. I don't know if the elites are aware of that or not, I would think they would have to be aware of it, but the fact they still think they can paint Israel as the good guy is telling they may just be that tone-deaf.

 

[Cooper]