Wife Hunting Abroad - Data Sheets Thread

[magoo]

Actually Roosh if I recall correctly had sex with virgins. I think it was in South America. He wrote about it. If you search his articles you will find. But to him it meant nothing. He almost stayed with one brazilian girl I think not because she was a virgin. But because he liked her. He was too greedy and went to EE.

In RVF 1.0 nobody cared about virgins. The goal was to find hot and slutty girls. There was a thing called flags. You had sex with a girl from one nationality and you were considered to have a flag from there. Those were fun light times. They were degenerate. Sure. But there was a camaderie that doesn´t exist neither here or in the last years of RVF. And energy. Not money or politics give this energy. We were James Bonds wannabes helping each other.

It´s not that hard to find virgins. Even in the west. You have to go to villages. But it´s an extreme goal. You don´t need to go so hardcore to find a wife. I think the sweet spot is between 20-25 years. And low notch count. The important thing is she need to take care of you. But it´s also take time. You are not buying a dog or a cow. Relationships progress and develop.

I really enjoyed reading Roosh articles. And miss them. Before all the politic stuff. And the bread or whatever he was cooking. Pizzas.

As the forum progressed you could feel his moderation varying in accordance to the girl (slut) behavior he would find in a club. I repeated wrote what type of girls did he expect to find in clubs? the way he lived also in Poland completely alienated from the country. Never understood that either.

These type of goals. A virgin. Are just a manifestation that you are not ready yet to have a real relationship and you are putting extreme goals. But clock is ticking. And you should cut the bullshit.

 

[budoslavic]

Re: Discussions on whether if dating or marrying a 16 year old is right or wrong.

Going to go off topic in this thread...

In the Old World in Eastern Europe, it was normal for families or relatives to act as matchmakers to help arrange marriage for the boys and girls in their villages.

My late grandparents - strict Orthodox Christians, mind you - married at a very young age in their native Eastern Europe homeland. My grandfather was 18 at the time when his aunt introduced him to my grandmother who was 16 years old in another village. (My grandfather's parents already passed away when he was a child. His aunt practically raised him; his two older brothers already left the village and immigrated to America in the 1890's when he was just a child.)

Unlike the modern dating and/or courtship process of months or years before getting married in Western countries, my grandparents got married quickly within a week. This was in the early 1900's.

Also, the villages' populations where they were born and raised were very small - i.e., my grandfather's village had a population of about 250 people and my grandmother's village was around 200 people. Another interesting thing is there was no transportation so it was mostly walking daily - i.e., grandfather walked to my grandmother's village (about 5 to 10 miles away each way) to meet her. Of course, majority of villages had strong Christian households.

In Eastern Europe's Old World in the 1900's, 16 year old girls grew up very quickly and understood their roles. The boys and girls were taught responsibilities and chores at a very young age due to harsh conditions (i.e., famine, brutal winters, etc.). Also, they were practically raised on a homestead where they grew their own small gardens, livestock, made their own foods, sew their own clothes, etc.

Compare that to today's 16 year old girls in Western countries...

 

[Rational1]

Re: Discussions on whether if dating or marrying a 16 year old is right or wrong.

Going to go off topic in this thread...

In the Old World in Eastern Europe, it was normal for families or relatives to act as matchmakers to help arrange marriage for the boys and girls in their villages.

My late grandparents - strict Orthodox Christians, mind you - married at a very young age in their native Eastern Europe homeland. My grandfather was 18 at the time when his aunt introduced him to my grandmother who was 16 years old in another village. (My grandfather's parents already passed away when he was a child. His aunt practically raised him; his two older brothers already left the village and immigrated to America in the 1890's when he was just a child.)

Unlike the modern dating and/or courtship process of months or years before getting married in Western countries, my grandparents got married quickly within a week. This was in the early 1900's.

Also, the villages' populations where they were born and raised were very small - i.e., my grandfather's village had a population of about 250 people and my grandmother's village was around 200 people. Another interesting thing is there was no transportation so it was mostly walking daily - i.e., grandfather walked to my grandmother's village (about 5 to 10 miles away each way) to meet her. Of course, majority of villages had strong Christian households.

In Eastern Europe's Old World in the 1900's, 16 year old girls grew up very quickly and understood their roles. The boys and girls were taught responsibilities and chores at a very young age due to harsh conditions (i.e., famine, brutal winters, etc.). Also, they were practically raised on a homestead where they grew their own small gardens, livestock, made their own foods, sew their own clothes, etc.

Compare that to today's 16 year old girls in Western countries...

Spot on, my grandparents were married young and grew up in strict Christian villages where everybody knew each other and the families for generations. They were one of several (around 10 siblings, etc.) They lived on farms and the kids did labor on the homestead. In those environments especially growing up during World Wars you matured very quickly.

I think if you ask guys on this forum I’m certain many have similar backgrounds and the difficulty of ‘dating’ is partly because we are anachronistic. I never got used to dating in the US, my family background just never allowed it.

The maturity level of the average 18 year old these days is poor. They have more experience with phones or social media than anything in the real world. Those old days are gone though.

 

[Australia Sucks]

Those were fun light times. They were degenerate. Sure. But there was a camaderie that doesn´t exist neither here or in the last years of RVF. And energy. Not money or politics give this energy. We were James Bonds wannabes helping each other.

I also greatly miss the camaraderie and positive vibe/energy of the original RooshV 1.0 forum. This forum seems focused on black-pilling and hypocritical purity spiraling, still I am here because there aren’t really better alternative forums on the internet (many other places are overflowing with crackpots and trolls) to discuss red pill topics and conspiracy theories, etc,

 

[FrancisK]

I also greatly miss the camaraderie and positive vibe/energy of the original RooshV 1.0 forum. This forum seems focused on black-pilling and hypocritical purity spiraling, still I am here because there aren’t really better alternative forums on the internet (many other places are overflowing with crackpots and trolls) to discuss red pill topics and conspiracy theories, etc,

I'm sure you do buddy I'm sure you do

 

[SkiPro]

I also greatly miss the camaraderie and positive vibe/energy of the original RooshV 1.0 forum. This forum seems focused on black-pilling and hypocritical purity spiraling, still I am here because there aren’t really better alternative forums on the internet (many other places are overflowing with crackpots and trolls) to discuss red pill topics and conspiracy theories, etc,

Well it's nice to be graced with your presence.

 

[Blade Runner]

But because he liked her. He was too greedy and went to EE.

Yes, after all that energy and time, and all that he learned, he fell for the trap of not knowing when to exit. A common trap for most.

You don´t need to go so hardcore to find a wife. I think the sweet spot is between 20-25 years. And low notch count. The important thing is she need to take care of you.

I agree. I think the last part is the hardest, possibly second to pure looks at this point, which is the hardest to get past since you won't even know if she treats you well if you find her to be non boner inducing.

I repeated wrote what type of girls did he expect to find in clubs? the way he lived also in Poland completely alienated from the country. Never understood that either.

Yes, and I'm pretty sure he even found a polish girl he liked and could have stayed with. He was given outs. Maybe that trek towards where is he now worked out in the ultimate sense for him, though ... you never know but it looks like it.

Most of the guys around here are still knowledgeable, even if we get into fights here and there, it's not important to be all salty about it. If we do have an issue currently, it's more that there is too much of a dichotomy of the crowd that thinks life essentially is a duality:

1. If married, good, keep going.
2. If not, give up and stop complaining even if you are going to other places (but how dare you go there where other women, younger women are)

I think it's better to just have honest conversations about how difficult of a time this is for all men, married and single alike. I find that most married men aren't very honest about how locked in or bad their lives are, rationalizing it for other reasons such as duty, kids, legacy, etc. I'm not putting that on them I'm just not stupid and see what's going on for most, beyond knowing how bad the culture and society are in cornering men.

 

[Let God Arise]

Morroco, if you're open to Muslim or Arab women. I met a lady from there recently. I found her very attractive, feminine, and sweet. And she told me how much better Moroccan women are than American women, how less selfish they are, and that they make better wives. She said American men come to Morroco for the women.

I don't know if this woman's statements can be trusted, but this information seems pertinent to this discussion.

Since AutismSucks is a man of no religion or faith, nothing is actually stopping him from becoming a Muslim. He wouldn't have to actually believe any of their stuff, either. It would be a publicity coup for whatever Middle Eastern village he visits to find a child bride. "Australian man converts to Islam! Allahu akbar!" Actually, he could get 4 brides!

 

[Let God Arise]

So Slavs aren't truly white ?
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Moomins are Finnish, but they rock!

 

[stadtaffe]

In 1968 the Beatles brought out this track Back in the USSR

That is a long time ago, long before the degeneracy we see today and it contained the lyrics :

(Well) The Ukraine girls really knock me out (Ooh, ooh-ooh-ooh)
They leave the West behind
And Moscow girls make me sing and shout (Ooh, ooh-ooh-ooh)
That Georgia's always on my mi-mi-mi-mi-mi-mi-mi-mi-mind

Bit of healthy advice in there for some and I suspect it's more valid today than it was then.

Russian women in my experience are culturally very different from the westerners.

 

[Blade Runner]

Russian women in my experience are culturally very different from the westerners.

Are you earnest in this or are you trying to trap "our friend"?

It's too bad Scandinavia doesn't have as many orthodox or amenable, younger women.

 

[scary_robot_music]

Are you earnest in this or are you trying to trap "our friend"?

It's too bad Scandinavia doesn't have as many orthodox or amenable, younger women.

Whenever people bring up Scandinavian women as the ideal of feminine beauty I think of how PUA-era Roosh said that while the most beautiful woman in the world is probably Swedish, nowadays the typical Swedish woman resembles "a tattooed burrito."

 

[FrancisK]

Whenever people bring up Scandinavian women as the ideal of feminine beauty I think of how PUA-era Roosh said that while the most beautiful woman in the world is probably Swedish, nowadays the typical Swedish woman resembles "a tattooed burrito."

Haha what a visual....

 

[scary_robot_music]

Haha what a visual....

Yeah. I feel bad for Roosh and all the damage he did to himself when he was a PUA, but it's undeniable that he was often hilarious back then. "Tattoed burrito"...I never would have thought of putting it that way but when I read that I knew exactly what he was talking about.

 

[Wutang]

Bang Denmark was the funniest of the travel guides he had even though he had the least amount of success in that country just because of the way he was describing the women in that country.

 

[Blade Runner]

Bang Denmark was the funniest of the travel guides he had even though he had the least amount of success in that country just because of the way he was describing the women in that country.

It seems like that should be a good place. Weird how far everyone has fallen, but it supports my population boom theory all the more.

 

[Douglas Quaid]

I can't speak on their personalities, but Scandinavian women are the most attractive in my opinion. Norway seems much better than gay Sweden.

 

[Blade Runner]

Mexico will probably get a lot of immigration from Europe AND South America as its economy continues to improve and/or it is subsumed by the new "American" system.

 

[GoodShepherd]

In my opinion something thats very overlooked when looking for a wife is to also look at her family and if her family is compatible with yours, the language and culture should be quite similar too because one day you and your wife are going to have children and those kids will be spending time with your family and hers, your parents and your family will also be joined to hers and it does make things a little more pleasant and helpful if the familes bond and grow together, I know this isnt always the case and will still work without the families but it is useful and a blessing to have this.

I personally think it might be best NOT to find a wife abroad but a local wife, the distance between your family and hers, your life and hers can also make it a challenge, it makes a lot more sense if possible if both the husband and wife are local and the entire work and family life in close proximity, its a great advantage to your children and family to be in a strong community.

 

[magoo]

In my opinion something thats very overlooked when looking for a wife is to also look at her family and if her family is compatible with yours, the language and culture should be quite similar too because one day you and your wife are going to have children and those kids will be spending time with your family and hers, your parents and your family will also be joined to hers and it does make things a little more pleasant and helpful if the familes bond and grow together, I know this isnt always the case and will still work without the families but it is useful and a blessing to have this.

I personally think it might be best NOT to find a wife abroad but a local wife, the distance between your family and hers, your life and hers can also make it a challenge, it makes a lot more sense if possible if both the husband and wife are local and the entire work and family life in close proximity, its a great advantage to your children and family to be in a strong community.

That´s setting the bar too high. You and your wife will create your own family. It´s a new branch. That´s what´s important. Me and my wife have around 40 cousins together (20+20). I am partially from the same area than she is. But that´s irrelevant. My parents have 10 brothers together. My wife the same. Maybe she has more. We don´t hang out with any of them. We like to be together. Sometimes I make an effort for my kids to socialize in family events. weddings, easter christmas, church. That´s it. There´s always family intrigues, jealousy, fights for inheritances, etc, etc.

Gipsies marry kids like that.