Older Men, Younger Women

[Maddox]

Black Pigeon talks about this very phenomenon going on right now with crazy wine aunts and the soy boys who defend them. As with nearly every other thing, these leftist twats have hypocritical beliefs. To them, the older women/younger men relationships are just fine and dandy.

 

[Droughtmeat]

I'm starting to really think that half your age + 7 rule really has some merit, give or take a few years.

Yes, I feel as though we don't clash in terms of their interests getting in the way of mine. They also don't try to mold me into something that I'm not, which is what women my age will try to do in (not so) subtle ways.

In addition, they're more accepting of my advice, leadership etc.

 

[analyst_green]

Gen Z are now in favour of age-gap relationships – and not for the reason you think

In a world where more and more younger men are following Andrew Tate and going deeper into the manosphere, a rising number of Gen Z women are choosing to date older people. Chloe Combi reports

www.the-independent.com

Here they admit that historically age gap relationships have always been normal, and have only been demonized in the last 10 to 15 years.

It's funny that one of the reasons they say gen z women are starting to prefer older men again is because young men are too conservative now. Too much Joe Rogan and manosphere. Older men are more likely to be blue pilled feminists. And I think there is some merit to this argument as I've met a lot more red-pilled guys under 30.

 

[Droughtmeat]

Gen Z are now in favour of age-gap relationships – and not for the reason you think

In a world where more and more younger men are following Andrew Tate and going deeper into the manosphere, a rising number of Gen Z women are choosing to date older people. Chloe Combi reports

www.the-independent.com

Here they admit that historically age gap relationships have always been normal, and have only been demonized in the last 10 to 15 years.

It's funny that one of the reasons they say gen z women are starting to prefer older men again is because young men are too conservative now. Too much Joe Rogan and manosphere. Older men are more likely to be blue pilled feminists. And I think there is some merit to this argument as I've met a lot more red-pilled guys under 30.

I think in the mid-term this red pill dynamic will be problematic though. A lot of those guys aren't red pill from a place of having had their heart broken and then focusing on female psychology and self development as a result thereof. Instead they have simply completely bought into red pill narratives with little nuance.

I'm in my 30s but still very active in terms of sports. Thus, a lot of my teammates and guys who I work out with are anywhere between 18 and 25. They're all doing fine for their age, meaning they're in school, no bad habits, goal driven, exercising every day etc. They also know many of the red pill theories.

But it's still surprising when I find out how many of them have never even kissed a girl. And, no, they're not saving themselves because they're Christians. They simply have no idea how to even convey romantic interest. When they actually do end up in relationships those seem to last very long. However, I remember that being the case with my friends and me around that age too. All of our first "serious" relationships lasted about 2.5 to 7 years. The whole "situationship" nonsense and short 3-12 month things all seemed to start once we got slightly older.

 

[Blade Runner]

But it's still surprising when I find out how many of them have never even kissed a girl. And, no, they're not saving themselves because they're Christians. They simply have no idea how to even convey romantic interest. When they actually do end up in relationships those seem to last very long. However, I remember that being the case with my friends and me around that age too. All of our first "serious" relationships lasted about 2.5 to 7 years. The whole "situationship" nonsense and short 3-12 month things all seemed to start once we got slightly older.

The younger generations are quite risk averse and sheltered due to technology addiction/smartphones. They don't need to go outside, cruise around in cars, go to house parties, and "F around and find out." It's another reason why an age gap is less likely to even work in the west, even though it technically does solve things. Did those articles talk about how the gap might be better because younger women can now sense that economic realities in the next 10 years are bleak? I still see them hitting up parents and inheritances ...

 

[FrancisK]

The younger generations are quite risk averse and sheltered due to technology addiction/smartphones. They don't need to go outside, cruise around in cars, go to house parties, and "F around and find out." It's another reason why an age gap is less likely to even work in the west, even though it technically does solve things. Did those articles talk about how the gap might be better because younger women can now sense that economic realities in the next 10 years are bleak? I still see them hitting up parents and inheritances ...

They are massive extremes one way or the other, no stability. Either afraid of their own shadows or afraid of absolutely nothing like their actions have no consequences and live completely on impulse.

I've seen both up close and personal, the very few I know that are stable are doing extremely well with their lives because there is such a lack of competition in their age group.

 

[Australia Sucks]

Gen Z are now in favour of age-gap relationships – and not for the reason you think

In a world where more and more younger men are following Andrew Tate and going deeper into the manosphere, a rising number of Gen Z women are choosing to date older people. Chloe Combi reports

www.the-independent.com

Here they admit that historically age gap relationships have always been normal, and have only been demonized in the last 10 to 15 years.

It's funny that one of the reasons they say gen z women are starting to prefer older men again is because young men are too conservative now. Too much Joe Rogan and manosphere. Older men are more likely to be blue pilled feminists. And I think there is some merit to this argument as I've met a lot more red-pilled guys under 30.

In reality despite what any articles say I still find that the majority of younger women do not accept older men although I would say age gap acceptance tends to increase with the woman's age.

From personal experience in Australia (I assume it would be similar in the USA) I would say that as a rough guideline:
-The majority of women aged 16 - 21 will usually only accept an age gap of maximum 3 years.
-The majority of women aged 22 - 25 will usually only accept an age gap of maximum 5 years.
-The majority of women aged 26 - 30 will usually accept an age gap maximum of around 7 years.
-Women between ages 30 and 40 will usually accept an age gap of up to 10 years.

 

[analyst_green]

The younger generations are quite risk averse and sheltered due to technology addiction/smartphones. They don't need to go outside, cruise around in cars, go to house parties, and "F around and find out." It's another reason why an age gap is less likely to even work in the west, even though it technically does solve things. Did those articles talk about how the gap might be better because younger women can now sense that economic realities in the next 10 years are bleak? I still see them hitting up parents and inheritances ...

I think this article did mention the economic aspect as well.

Looking back, I find that a lot of those hedonistic parties I used to go to in college actually brought some value to my life now. This was during the era where dating apps were just getting started, but were still the exception rather than the norm. I was fairly antisocial in high school, and these parties helped me develop my social skills. So many times I was forced into uncomfortable situations and had to think on my feet and adapt. And I also realized talking to women is pretty easy. Just don't idolize them and have a normal conversation. Pretty much every struggle that guys have in talking to women, unless they have a psychological disorder, comes down to simping.

Of course there are better ways to become social. The hedonism leads to a downward spiral of depression.

These younger guys today don't have that subtle social knowledge. They were cooped up during covid and never got out, and more importantly the smartphones have wreaked havoc on their brains and social skills. John Doyle said in one of his videos that if you really need serious help today out in public, like if you're having a heart attack, you look for a guy who's around 35 or older. Younger ones just cannot be trusted to be competent or willing to help you. Before the days of social media and high speed internet porn, you'd probably be all right asking someone 25 or older.

Some zoomer women are also impossible to talk to because their brains are mush. They just can't have a face-to-face conversation with a stranger.

But being socially well adjusted actually works in favor of older guys, as the remaining few psychologically healthy young women are looking for a guy on the same page.

 

[Blade Runner]

I've seen both up close and personal, the very few I know that are stable are doing extremely well with their lives because there is such a lack of competition in their age group.

I totally agree. Good points. You'll see good examples from kids of first generation immigrants, possibly. Those that are solid will get snapped up early, too.

Pretty much every struggle that guys have in talking to women, unless they have a psychological disorder, comes down to simping.

Yes, it's too much to handle for most, as guys take a long time to mature and they are relatively underdeveloped with emotions and T that they can't master when girls also mature so fast and are attractive to them, beyond being promoted by the culture to being loud, "strong" or bossy.

Some zoomer women are also impossible to talk to because their brains are mush. They just can't have a face-to-face conversation with a stranger.

From what I've seen or the cues you get from the society overall, especially in general attitude, you get very little normal behavior and/or friendliness if born after the millennium. It's not that they are bad or mean, they are just stunted and more fearful rather than colorful or animated. I agree with FrancisK in that it's even MORE extreme in selecting out good and bad early, and the middle is numbed by technology and the same friends around them, who are also spoiled materially on average (and with bad diets).

 

[analyst_green]

From what I've seen or the cues you get from the society overall, especially in general attitude, you get very little normal behavior and/or friendliness if born after the millennium. It's not that they are bad or mean, they are just stunted and more fearful rather than colorful or animated. I agree with FrancisK in that it's even MORE extreme in selecting out good and bad early, and the middle is numbed by technology and the same friends around them, who are also spoiled materially on average (and with bad diets).

Yes, fearful is the way to describe them. They like to feel in control of their environment like with a machine. Often a stranger approaching triggers a fight or flight response like a deer in the headlights.

I find zoomer women from slightly poorer countries are better. Simply because their parents couldn't afford to slap a smartphone in their hands at the age of 8. But as technology gets cheaper and more pervasive, the situation everywhere will deteriorate.