The Destruction of Modern Women

[analyst_green]

What I genuinely think is that the female soul does not want to be treated nicely by men, below the surface, women want to be abused, dominated, put in their place and degraded. So as a man it is very important to treat women like that and ignore any hype to the contrary.

They have a natural urge to submit to and be led by a man. But not to be abused, a woman wants to have a man's attention and love above all else. However, these desires, like any healthy desires, can become twisted in our fallen world. And thus you have all this weird BDSM stuff women are into and fantasize about.

As I wrote in another post, people blindly defer to authority. For many women this is magnified 100x. In modern times for a hot young woman, one of the few types that provide this overwhelmingly pseudo masculine presence are drug dealers and criminals.

Exactly, true masculinity is rare to find and so women whose minds have become warped through satanic temptations will seek out this false semblance of it.

 

[Unending Powerhouse Match]

There are few things as alarming and redpilling as just simply checking out the "romance" media women consume. I mean seriously, you can just go up to a woman and ask her in a friendly and non-judgemental way what she's been watching on Netflix and such. Ask her about the books on her bookshelf if she has one. I've found that it's shockingly rare to find a woman who is not into all of the most disturbing things imaginable.

It's somewhat common for me to meet a woman and think she's pretty trad and possibly wife material, until in one way or another I find out about the books she reads and the shows she watches.

This one girl a long while ago was pushing me to watch this show she was really into called "You" with her, and it was about a serial killer named Joe Goldberg becoming obsessed with a woman and doing all kinds of horrifying things to insert himself into her life and so on. It contained so much degeneracy of so many different kinds, every episode was an attack on the soul from a completely different angle, and she thought it was just the best. The extreme visible glee and excitement she would display while watching that show completely destroyed my opinion of her.

 

[Australia Sucks]

There are few things as alarming and redpilling as just simply checking out the "romance" media women consume. I mean seriously, you can just go up to a woman and ask her in a friendly and non-judgemental way what she's been watching on Netflix and such. Ask her about the books on her bookshelf if she has one. I've found that it's shockingly rare to find a woman who is not into all of the most disturbing things imaginable.

It's somewhat common for me to meet a woman and think she's pretty trad and possibly wife material, until in one way or another I find out about the books she reads and the shows she watches.

This one girl a long while ago was pushing me to watch this show she was really into called "You" with her, and it was about a serial killer named Joe Goldberg (lmao) becoming obsessed with a woman and doing all kinds of horrifying things to insert himself into her life and so on. It contained so much degeneracy of so many different kinds, and she thought it was just the best. The extreme visible glee and excitement she would display while watching that show completely destroyed my opinion of her.

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As Myron from Fresh and Fit says you can either understand women or you can respect them but you cannot do both.

 

[Blade Runner]

Nowadays with all the developments that make life easier, as well as women having the vote which mainly leads them to voting in redistribution of money away from the bigger taxpayer group which is men and, well, he goes on a lot about women treating men very badly despite all these things men have done for them in recent years.

Yes, interestingly he's falling for a classic blindspot of humans, and in particular the sexes, when they think of the other sex: projection. For Stefan here, it's "Don't you think about your current situation, logically?" That is, big picture and ask yourself what life used to be like, and how it is now? The answer is, flatly, no. They don't care to analyze or compare, all that matters is consensus and what's going on now. For the inauspicious observer, you'll look back on history and not realize that good behavior and attitudes had very little to do with personal decisions, and everything to do on social expectations and pressures. The proof of that is the near 100% loss of all of this in the modern day. If the decisions were particular or personal, surely they wouldn't go away, nearly entirely, now would they? LOL.

Basically, everything related to the idea of egalitarianism with people, sexes, groups, etc is a total and utter lie. You aren't paying any attention if you don't already realize how dumb this idea ever was. It always was kumbaya with all these different (rich, wealthy) people eating at the buffet, but once the buffet started to run out of food, you saw quickly how much of a farce all of it was, since there was now a price to pay, as the excess couldn't be invented any longer to just "get along".

I actually think that women are genetically hardwired to be narcissistic and only strong social shaming, religion and strict social norms and strong father figures and husbands can keep this tendency under control and we don't have these things any more and hence women's innate narcissistic tendencies are running rampant.

Survival traits and the "natural" inclination of most humans are very base. Also not being aware that, as a human, one is very susceptible to the guiles of deferring to women as helpless (as in children) turns out to be a big time foil for the man who isn't wise. Also, since consensus and following is so important for women, all of their experiences are also contextual, not reason based or competency based. A worse looking woman will not have as many care about her, so she can manipulate less. A good looking woman can only be saved by religion, men properly raising her, or hard work growing up. Far too many will fold for her just based on their male weakness, especially if other men aren't around to put silly men and simps in line if they try to overstep strict boundaries.

 

[SeekingGod]

Yes, interestingly he's falling for a classic blindspot of humans, and in particular the sexes, when they think of the other sex: projection. For Stefan here, it's "Don't you think about your current situation, logically?" That is, big picture and ask yourself what life used to be like, and how it is now? The answer is, flatly, no. They don't care to analyze or compare, all that matters is consensus and what's going on now. For the inauspicious observer, you'll look back on history and not realize that good behavior and attitudes had very little to do with personal decisions, and everything to do on social expectations and pressures. The proof of that is the near 100% loss of all of this in the modern day. If the decisions were particular or personal, surely they wouldn't go away, nearly entirely, now would they? LOL.

This is a big misconception with men’s understanding. Even the most analytical women are not often using logic compared to men. We can not decipher their behavior with logic at all. I wrote previously of knowing a professional women in my post about liberal women dating feminine men. You would think that a female that is a physicist would be completely analytical, but even she had massive emotional whims and outbursts. It is about what is in the moment for women. Fun now, fun later. A man can be a complete degenerate violent criminal, but if in the moment he can show value and pseudo-status to get her aroused, and then get her emotionally invested, she will pick the degenerate over a good stable man. A man can dance and dress like pikachu and go to a drug induced music festival, and get women if he makes them feel safe and good enough. A man can blast a CEO in broad daylight and get more attention and potential suitors he can ever handle because he’s conventionally attractive. Yet Mr. CPA in the corner office hasn’t had a girlfriend in years. Emotion vs. logic again.

 

[homersheineken]

This is a big misconception with men’s understanding. Even the most analytical women are not often using logic compared to men. We can not decipher their behavior with logic at all. I wrote previously of knowing a professional women in my post about liberal women dating feminine men. You would think that a female that is a physicist would be completely analytical, but even she had massive emotional whims and outbursts. It is about what is in the moment for women. Fun now, fun later. A man can be a complete degenerate violent criminal, but if in the moment he can show value and pseudo-status to get her aroused, and then get her emotionally invested, she will pick the degenerate over a good stable man. A man can dance and dress like pikachu and go to a drug induced music festival, and get women if he makes them feel safe and good enough. A man can blast a CEO in broad daylight and get more attention and potential suitors he can ever handle because he’s conventionally attractive. Yet Mr. CPA in the corner office hasn’t had a girlfriend in years. Emotion vs. logic again.

Absolutely. Looks no further than Covid. I can't you how many women I know who are lawyers, architects and even doctors jumping to get the experimental shot.

Instead of thinking logically and analytically that "I should really look into what this experimental drug is about and contains", the real line of thought was, "I can't get my Starbucks", "I can't travel", or even worse, "What will people on Facebook think if I don't show my mask and vaxx card?"

Ruled by emotion and FOMO.

 

[Australia Sucks]

This episode is 4 hours so I don't expect anyone to watch it all I just watched part of it. What was interesting is the girl on the panel who was a former stripper was super red pilled and actually understood how reality works when it comes to male female dynamics unlike 99% of women.

 

[Unending Powerhouse Match]

This episode is 4 hours so I don't expect anyone to watch it all I just watched part of it. What was interesting is the girl on the panel who was a former stripper was super red pilled and actually understood how reality works when it comes to male female dynamics unlike 99% of women.

Unsuprising that prostitutes are often under no illusions when it comes to these things.

 

[SeekingGod]

This episode is 4 hours so I don't expect anyone to watch it all I just watched part of it. What was interesting is the girl on the panel who was a former stripper was super red pilled and actually understood how reality works when it comes to male female dynamics unlike 99% of women.

Can you provide a quick summary of her observations?

 

[Samseau]

This episode is 4 hours so I don't expect anyone to watch it all I just watched part of it. What was interesting is the girl on the panel who was a former stripper was super red pilled and actually understood how reality works when it comes to male female dynamics unlike 99% of women.

Funny to see Rollo going bigtime on these podcasts. A little trashy, repetitive, and shallow, but still good to see him fighting the fight.

 

[Australia Sucks]

Can you provide a quick summary of her observations?

Nothing earth shattering just red pill 101 stuff that most men on this forum are well aware but that normie men and almost all women don't understand.

 

[Samseau]

Nothing earth shattering just red pill 101 stuff that most men on this forum are well aware but that normie men and almost all women don't understand.

I used to think this stuff was common knowledge on this forum, but see here:

M

Post in thread 'The Reaction To "Game" & Other Past Vile Behaviour - After Enlightenment - Thread'

Wednesday at 4:50 AM

"Muh White race" has nothing to do with this. This is about cold hard reality, of supply and demand.

The mask finally drops in full view. You're clearly not White, and you clearly hate us with a personal bias. Only someone who is severed from their roots transposes an economic conflation onto a biological reality.

Humans are not commodities to be traded or exchanged based on some market-driven logic we are biological, spiritual, and racial entities whose existence depends on the preservation of our genetic, ethnic, and social inheritance. Race is not an economic or transactional...

• MusicForThePiano

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The assertion that half of White Millennial women will remain childless is unfounded. Data from the March of Dimes indicates that on average 50.5% of all live births in the United States during 2021-2023 were to White women. This contradicts your claim and suggests that a significant portion of White women are choosing to have children.

7 men and 1 woman liked that post, which strongly suggests there is a significant minority of blue-pillers here on this forum. Pretty amazing this could come out of the old Roosh forum.

Notice, I think all of the people who liked Music's post do not post in this thread. Even though this thread is nearly 90 pages long, we still have men who willfully bury their heads in the sand despite all evidence to the contrary.

Just goes to show the inherent weakness of men, even in a place like here where truth is bashed over people's heads on a daily basis they still refuse to accept it.

 

[Wutang]

There's been different eras of the RVF forum. Seems like most of the people who were liking that post came more during when the forum was going more down the political route. In the earlier times of the forum people would actually banned for being too much into talking about politics, philosophy, or whatever without actually showing that they were actually interested in self-improvement and "touching grass" as the kids will say. Cardguy is the example I would use. I actually found his posts interesting but he was actually banned (along with his various incarnations) because he had openly admitted that he was a overweight guy that had no interest in learning game and relied on hookers for sexual fulfillment and that he was basically living a semi-NEET sort of lifestyle.

It was assumed that people on the forums had a common understanding about what it's like to date in the Western world. I don't think we can really assume that anymore given how much the forum changed through the years and how each "era" of the form attracted different types of people. That's why on here you'll see posters ranging from how the west is doomed when it comes to woman and your only hope is to leave and find a 23 year old virgin to people insisting you stay put and marry white no matter what. The passport bro flag collector would have been banned in the late era of the forum for being a materialist degenerate in the same way the racial purist black pilled politics obsessed It_Is_My_Time type that refuse to do anything to improve their situation but will complain endlessly posters would have been banned in the early and middle era.

 

[Samseau]

There's been different eras of the RVF forum. Seems like most of the people who were liking that post came more during when the forum was going more down the political route. In the earlier times of the forum people would actually banned for being too much into talking about politics, philosophy, or whatever without actually showing that they were actually interested in self-improvement and "touching grass" as the kids will say. Cardguy is the example I would use. I actually found his posts interesting but he was actually banned (along with his various incarnations) because he had openly admitted that he was a overweight guy that had no interest in learning game and relied on hookers for sexual fulfillment and that he was basically living a semi-NEET sort of lifestyle.

It was assumed that people on the forums had a common understanding about what it's like to date in the Western world. I don't think we can really assume that anymore given how much the forum changed through the years and how each "era" of the form attracted different types of people. That's why on here you'll see posters ranging from how the west is doomed when it comes to woman and your only hope is to leave and find a 23 year old virgin to people insisting you stay put and marry white no matter what. The passport bro flag collector would have been banned in the late era of the forum for being a materialist degenerate in the same way the racial purist black pilled politics obsessed It_Is_My_Time type that refuse to do anything to improve their situation but will complain endlessly posters would have been banned in the early and middle era.

Except Music joined the RVF in 2014, same time I did, and has been through all of the phases.

Even in the late stage RVF, guys like me were never banned for being red pill. Red pill thinking was always dominant because it was true, although secondary to the God pill. Hedonists tended to be red pill, whereas God-fearing people can often times be blue-pill. In spite of this red-pill thinking was absolutely dominant until the very end - or at least I thought so, but apparently the blue-pillers were just keeping their thoughts to themselves.

 

[Australia Sucks]

By the way I do not even like the term "white" in the context of race as its a very unclear and confusing term.

"white" is a skin colour rather than a race. Yes there are certain countries where basically every person of that ethnicity is white but there are also many countries with genetically mixed populations and have a range of skin tones.

Yes pretty much every ethnic Scandinavian is going to be pale white and clearly euro looking.

But for example in Italy you have people that could be mistaken for a German in appearance and then you have tan skinned short Italians who look like they could also be middle eastern or north African. Similar story for Portugal or Spain.

You have Iranians, Turks and Arabs who are very pale white and have European looking features and could be mistaken for Europeans while others who are quite tanned and clearly non European looking. You have Colombians that are European descended and look the same as Europeans, you have mestizo, indigenous and black Colombians. So are the white Euro descended Colombians "white" or "Latino" or are they "white latinos"? Is a white European looking Iranian or a white European looking Colombian considered "white" while a tanned skin Portuguese is considered non-white? Or is it the opposite way around? Is white a social grouping? Where do you deliniate?

I think people should be clearer with their terminology rather than just using the confusing term of "white".

 

[Australia Sucks]

And further to my point above that things are often not clearly delineated reality is much messier I will provide another example.

When traveling overseas I met a "German" guy who had African parents. He referred to himself as German, he was pitch black but born and raised in Germany, spoke fluent German, had German citizenship and had a very German mentality and behaved like a typical German would. Whereas I have met for example an Argentinian who was white and blonde and had German grandparents but was born and raised in Argentina, did not speak German, did not have a German passport, had never been to Germany and they had a very Latin American mentality due to growing up in Argentina. Who is more "German" the first person or the second person? Or are they both non Germans?

 

[Unending Powerhouse Match]

By the way I do not even like the term "white" in the context of race as its a very unclear and confusing term.

"white" is a skin colour rather than a race. Yes there are certain countries where basically every person of that ethnicity is white but there are also many countries with genetically mixed populations and have a range of skin tones.

Yes pretty much every ethnic Scandinavian is going to be pale white and clearly euro looking.

But for example in Italy you have people that could be mistaken for a German in appearance and then you have tan skinned short Italians who look like they could also be middle eastern or north African. Similar story for Portugal or Spain.

You have Iranians, Turks and Arabs who are very pale white and have European looking features and could be mistaken for Europeans while others who are quite tanned and clearly non European looking. You have Colombians that are European descended and look the same as Europeans, you have mestizo, indigenous and black Colombians. So are the white Euro descended Colombians "white" or "Latino" or are they "white latinos"? Is a white European looking Iranian or a white European looking Colombian considered "white" while a tanned skin Portuguese is considered non-white? Or is it the opposite way around? Is white a social grouping? Where do you deliniate?

I think people should be clearer with their terminology rather than just using the confusing term of "white".

If you venture deep enough into the bowels of the internet, you'll find people who say it's all about skull measurements and that it's even possible to be "white" even if your skin color is olive or brown. The topic of what "white" means is exhausting to think about. There's an incredible amount of lies and purposefully confusing focus-grouped NLP words that you need to unravel, and at the end of the day, no one in the real world cares about any of it.

There's really no need to overthink it. You just need to marry someone who looks like you and is not Jewish. Once you start getting into DNA testing and phrenology, you've lost the plot. As a mestizo, I am not really a member of any race, which I am not happy about, but I guess that just means I need to try and find myself a nice mestiza.

 

[Unending Powerhouse Match]

And further to my point above that things are often not clearly delineated reality is much messier I will provide another example.

When traveling overseas I met a "German" guy who had African parents. He referred to himself as German, he was pitch black but born and raised in Germany, spoke fluent German, had German citizenship and had a very German mentality and behaved like a typical German would. Whereas I have met for example an Argentinian who was white and blonde and had German grandparents but was born and raised in Argentina, did not speak German, did not have a German passport, had never been to Germany and they had a very Latin American mentality due to growing up in Argentina. Who is more "German" the first person or the second person? Or are they both non Germans?

Race and ancestry matter significantly more than culture, language and a piece of paper. The Argentinian guy is more German than the African, because that's his heritage, that's who his forefathers were, and that's the nation they built for their progeny. The African guy is not their progeny.

Culture and language are more or less mere choices. They can be changed. You can master a language and completely assimilate into a culture in only 5-10 years if you're serious enough about it. Blood is the only thing that matters. Nations are extended families. That's what they were understood to be for all of human history up until the 20th century, which might as well be last wednesday. You don't stop being a son of your family just because you switch locations and make different choices.

The Jews would have you believe that nations are ideas and economic zones rather than extended families.

 

[FrancisK]

"White" is a new western world thing because people have mixed their cultures together so much that they had to come up with a new identity and label. I don't say that as a negative thing but most of the cultures that the western world calls "white" if you go to the people themselves they don't call themselves "white", they call themselves whatever their culture is and would actually get offended if you tried to label them any other way. Hell I know 100% off the boat Polish and Russian people here in the USA that would get pissed if you called them "white", don't get me started on Greeks, Italians, Spaniards, Yugos....etc etc etc.

 

[Samseau]

Honestly, I don't really care about the definition of "White." I go by my eyes, since the visual test tends to be the most reliable. Some people like DNA or morphology, whatever, it's just splitting hairs. 99% of people in the real world go by what they see. If you have White skin, you're White to 99% of humanity.

That said, let's not get off topic with yet another race discussion. Instead, how about the fact that race worshippers (aka White Nationalists) refuse to accept that White women have been destroyed to the point that 45-55% of Millennials and younger are without children?

Talking about "muh White race" when the women are dumping men left and right until they meet Mr. Right and having zero kids has got to be one of the most insane forms of hypocrisy I have ever seen. You'd think White Nationalists would be 100% red pill, focusing on the fact that the #1 threat to the White race is the destruction of the women who act like spoiled children until they are barren, but no, they want to focus on a guy like JD Vance for not "manning up" and marrying such a creature.