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ed plrbs unm said:
The Liberals are pretty much doing whatever they want at this point. The media is running point for them, filling the 24hr news cycle with OrangeManBad/tariffs/Ukraine so all the normies are in a lather.
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I've seen some of the more level headed normie Americans on normie sites try to reassure normie Canadians that it's very, very unlikely that the president would actually order an attack on Canada. Also that if that were to somehow happen, most Americans would flatly refuse to participate in such idiocy. I think that's true. I'd also refuse and I can't imagine an American who would be willing. Americans rarely think of Canada at all, but when we do we usually see Canadians as our slightly goofy, sometimes annoying liberal cousins. No one wants to massacre their goofy cousins for being liberal and annoying.

The normie Canadians have beem responding that Trump has been purging the US military and installing loyalist commanders who absolutely would follow through on an order to attack Canada. This seems like made up hysteria to me, but who knows. Also, although I said I can't imagine anyone in the USA really being willing to participate in an attack on Canada, on the other hand look at all the people who went along with the COVID craziness hook, line, and sinker.

I'd still say War of 1812 part Deux is very, very unlikely but with all the bizarre things that have happened in the last 10 years, I can't say I'm 100% convinced it's impossible.
 
Douglas Quaid said:
The US is not going to attack Canada, or try to make it a 51st state. Trump is trolling Canadian leaders to try and get what he really wants.
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The plan to absorb Canada would entail annexing resource-rich Alberta and Saskatchewan first, which would secede following a referendum then get absorbed into the US. After this Canada would break up and be for the taking, with isolated parts like BC being pressured to join. This would take 10-15 years. Whether or not it is carried out depends on if there is a significant element in the US deep state backing Trump on this project.
 
Cooper said:
The plan to absorb Canada would entail annexing resource-rich Alberta and Saskatchewan first, which would secede following a referendum then get absorbed into the US. After this Canada would break up and be for the taking, with isolated parts like BC being pressured to join. This would take 10-15 years. Whether or not it is carried out depends on if there is a significant element in the US deep state backing Trump on this project.
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Interesting. I don't know much about Canada but my impression is that Alberta is the most right wing province and most friendly toward the US, and that Saskatchewan is pretty similar. That's why I imagined trading Washington and Oregon for those two above.
 
Cooper said:
The plan to absorb Canada would entail annexing resource-rich Alberta and Saskatchewan first, which would secede following a referendum then get absorbed into the US. After this Canada would break up and be for the taking, with isolated parts like BC being pressured to join. This would take 10-15 years. Whether or not it is carried out depends on if there is a significant element in the US deep state backing Trump on this project.
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That sounds a lot more realistic than having one giant, mega left-wing Canadian 51st state. Or having the US military actually invade Canada. I have no idea why any conservative American would want that, and don't think most people do want it.

The middle of Canada might make sense, but absorbing the rest of it is just asking for problems.
 
Douglas Quaid said:
The US is not going to attack Canada, or try to make it a 51st state. Trump is trolling Canadian leaders to try and get what he really wants.
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Not sure if trolling or some sort of accelerationism to collapse, because that's how it's feeling.

Nobody, absolutely nobody in Canada (politicians or other is talking about the original reason for the tariffs, i.e. fentanyl and border security. All they had to do was secure the border. What did we do? $1.3b on border security, spread over 6 years. Most of that will probably go to the RCMP flying their 2 rented Black Hawks over an 8,000km border (operating costs probably not far off $10k/hour, I'm guessing). Great for photo ops.

For comparison's sake, we sent $20b to Ukraine. There's $32b of "covid relief funding" completely unaccounted for, and there's still $93b of missing money from when that bimbo Catherine McKenna was Minister of Public Works.

Our entrenched political class really will stop at nothing to stay in power, even if it means destroying the country. I'm just undecided how much of it is malice and ego vs. how much is globalist/WEF agenda.
 
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Douglas Quaid said:
That sounds a lot more realistic than having one giant, mega left-wing Canadian 51st state. Or having the US military actually invade Canada. I have no idea why any conservative American would want that, and don't think most people do want it.

The middle of Canada might make sense, but absorbing the rest of it is just asking for problems.
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The push to absorb the rest of Canada in the US might be fueled by decline in trust in the US$ with the balloning debt situation at home and dedolarization abroad. Canada's vast ressource pool would act as collateral.

Also, the US oil fracking production might be peaking early next decade, Canada's reserves are far larger.
 
This is just me assuming things and not thinking it through (I know, I know), but it would seem to be in the U.S.'s best interest in the long run to absorb Canada while it's still predominantly white with European heritage. What happens when Canada has 200 million Asians and the U.S. gets bombarded by illegals from North and South? It'd be better to simply own that land and have no Northern border to worry about. Canada has demonstrated it can and will be a hostile belligerent that could be used against the U.S.
 
The UK, Ireland and France being the founding countries of Canada, being a citizen of these countries is not a major impediment to a political career in Canada. To a certain extent, it might even be an advantage for him with heritage Canadians. He did cash in for example on the fact that he was 3/4 Irish with St Patrick this week. He did grow up in Canada, so that is not an issue. Bachelors from Harvard, PhD from Oxford, former college hockey player, those are also big feathers on his cap, part of the reasons he has erased most of the Conservatives huge lead in the polls.

What is an issue though is is bona fide globalist bankster ties, ex-Goldman Sachs, head of the central banks of Canada and England, though that is not a factor with the normies, which are the great majority of Canadian voters.
 
Cooper said:
The UK, Ireland and France being the founding countries of Canada, being a citizen of these countries is not a major impediment to a political career in Canada. To a certain extent, it might even be an advantage for him with heritage Canadians. He did cash in for example on the fact that he was 3/4 Irish with St Patrick this week. He did grow up in Canada, so that is not an issue. Bachelors from Harvard, PhD from Oxford, former college hockey player, those are also big feathers on his cap, part of the reasons he has erased most of the Conservatives huge lead in the polls.

What is an issue though is is bona fide globalist bankster ties, ex-Goldman Sachs, head of the central banks of Canada and England, though that is not a factor with the normies, which are the great majority of Canadian voters.
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True enough, but the normies have also forgotten (since it was more than 15 minutes ago) how the media spent ages trying to make a huge issue out of Andrew Scheer's dual nationality with the US. The normies don't have to be consistent if their memory doesn't go back further than a week.
 


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After discovering that Mark Carney was photographed with child trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell on several occasions, that his sister was a very close friend of Ghislaine Maxwell, that he holds three passports, that he is a board member of the World Economic Forum Foundation, that he hasn't set foot in Canada for a decade, that he was Justin Trudeau's senior advisor, that he and his wife benefit from contracts/grants from Canada and the US, that he blocked pipeline projects in Canada but invested in similar projects elsewhere in the world, that he brought England to the brink of bankruptcy with his policies when he was Governor of the Bank of England, well, we also discover that he is Justin Trudeau's cousin by marriage, the godfather of Chrystia Freeland's son, and that he is close to John Podesta! 🤏👓

And to top it all off, his daughter Sophia, who legally changed her name to Sasha, is a non-binary person who was treated by the "Tavistock Institute" for her gender dysphoria issues..."
 
FWIW, my own family's connection with the globalists...in the late 90's, Gordon Thiessen was Governor of the Bank of Canada. Around this time, I was visiting my Grandma, who had been born and raised in southern Saskatchewan. I was visiting her one day, when she showed me a $10 CAD banknote with his signature on it. She told me that they grew up in the same southern township in the Swift Current area. She said that when she was young, she had baby-sat him when he was a toddler...

At the very least, with a surname like Thiessen, his family were probably Plautdietsch-speaking Mennonites and not Talmudists...
 
El Dorado said:
FWIW, my own family's connection with the globalists...in the late 90's, Gordon Thiessen was Governor of the Bank of Canada. Around this time, I was visiting my Grandma, who had been born and raised in southern Saskatchewan. I was visiting her one day, when she showed me a $10 CAD banknote with his signature on it. She told me that they grew up in the same southern township in the Swift Current area. She said that when she was young, she had baby-sat him when he was a toddler...

At the very least, with a surname like Thiessen, his family were probably Plautdietsch-speaking Mennonites and not Talmudists...
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Thiessen is northern Dutch and German and also common in western Denmark. So frysian mainly and I've never heard of talmudics using that surname.
 
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