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Situation in the Red Sea (Houthi Thread)
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Houthi's claim they have attacked our navy ships. No confirmation of this.
It's Europe buying those goods though, and those goods are being made by American or European companies in China (according to Grok's info).
Thus, Trump is trying to work prices down and help out the American companies who stand to profit.
Will Trump succeed here? That remains to be seen. Is this particularly a big deal? Not really, given that no other Arab nation is claiming Israel is violating the ceasefire currently in place, and Houthis are aggressively targeting civilian ships. Whether or not they are Israeli linked is a moot point because all of our major production and shipping is owned by the Talmuds. So it translates Houthis targeting virtually every ship that goes through the straights, which translates to higher costs for everyone in Europe, and lower profits for major business execs.
Finally, so far these strikes are strictly limited to military targets. If it's just military targets, then it's just part of the game of war and it's kinda hard to feel too bad about it. "Live by the sword, die by the sword." If Trump starts bombing civilians in Yemen then that will be a major mistake.
Meanwhile.
The Biden Administration purposely let the situation fester for this reason, to create a bargaining chip vis a vis the Europeans, Chinese, Egyptians, Israelis and Gulf Arabs.
This set up was by design. Hate to say 'told you so', but told you so. Get2choppaaa said the said the same thing way back, don't wanna steal all the shine. Reality check for those that legit were under the impression that the Mighty Houthis had just broken the US Navy's dominance in the Red Sea. That stuff was legit cringe.
The Trump Administration differs in its approach. It seems to care more about prestige. The Trump Admin bigwigs don't like khat chewing and flipflop wearing Arabs that shout Death to America taking potshots at merchant vessels - complete with Houthi ultimatums and whatnot. WTF moments. Loss of face. Dented egos. Hurt pride. Biden Administration was sly and calculating, Trump Administration is high T and in your face. They are taking this seriously. Fifth and Sixth Fleet should be able to do the job but assets are getting moved to the Middle East anyway.
Ansarallah/Houthis are in a bad situation. I think they legit miscalculated and thought Trump would be akin to Biden and open to negotiations. Turns out he's not. Not at this stage at least, maybe after glassing half the place he will be. Yesterday was a shot across the bow and final warning. US purposely only targeted low and middle level commanders. Houthis were given a way out. End the blockade and you will be left alone. Today the Houthis, stubborn religiously inspired mountain dwellers that they are, responded by saying it's game on.
Ansarallah can't counter any of the US attack vectors, and them impotently shooting refurbished 70s Soviet era technology missiles and DIY Iranian knock off drones at US naval assets will get comical real quick.
Ansarallah has two viable pathways to (a strategic) victory and firing their lil penis missiles at a technologically vastly superior foe's naval assets isn't one of them. Their options are:
1. Play the long game, grind their teeth and sit out the US bombing campaign whilst moving their critical infrastructure and leadership underground, hoping that the US at some point will be distracted and/or grow tired. Possibly tied to a stop on their Red Sea blockade.
2. Start firing missiles and drones at the Gulf Arabs oil and water infrastructure. Primarily the UAE and Saudi Arabia are targets. This already happened in 2016-2018, with the addition that back then Ansarallah's missile and drone technology was far less developed.
Trump Administration is serious about this. SoS Marco Rubio with a very clear message: campaign will go on until the attacks stop.
Hegseth with the same message: attacks will be unrelenting
Ansarallah leader Abdulmalik al Houthi with a statement: blockade will go on until Israeli blockade of Gaza stops.
After the first wave yesterday several additional US strikes have been reported.
Map with areas struck.
AGREED.
Hegseth with the same message: attacks will be unrelenting
Ansarallah leader Abdulmalik al Houthi with a statement: blockade will go on until Israeli blockade of Gaza stops.
After the first wave yesterday several additional US strikes have been reported.
Map with areas struck.
AGREED.
So US service members are now getting directly attacked to defend Israel’s right to deny food and medicine to Gaza. This after the U.S. brokered and guaranteed an agreement in which Israel promised it would let in food and medicine. So they are breaking their word to us, we are defending their right to do it, and are now getting attacked by the Houthis over it. The Houthis meanwhile say they will end their attacks and end their Red Sea blockade if Israel simply abides by the agreement it already reached.
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It was set up by design by the west, I agree there. But the problem the leaders of the west make, and that you are making, is that they can sell this war to the American people. They can't. You should come visit the USA and see how things are over here. Most people can't afford to keep their head above water and instead of doing anything about it, they think they can sell us into spending our tax money to fight another war that they can't even fully explain.
There are boomers who will go along with it, but their time is up. For those under 50, this war will have little to no support. And when flag draped caskets start coming home, that support will drop further. No one here thinks the Houthi's can straight up take the USA. But everyone living in the USA knows that the appetite for another war, that we both cannot afford and do not want, isn't going to fly over.
I sincerely believe you should come visit the USA for yourself to see how bad things have gotten here. I know a very highly decorated Marine, who due to his hero status, has received some very high paying jobs. Good for him. And now his nephew wants to join the Marines, and he is trying his best to talk him out of it. The support for this war simply is not here. And I do believe the Chinese and Russians are aware of this and walked the USA right into this trap. This is more likely to be a big win for BRICS and even Turkey than it is for the west.
Who would want to risk life and limb for a country like this? Those who make enough, are not going to fight, and those who don't, have no motivation.
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Muh brics again. Hope you realize that Egypt is heavily hit by the decrease in Canal fees, that the Saudis and Emiratis are at war with Ansarallah and have been since 2016, that the Turks are eyeing to increase their influence in and around thr Horn through Somalia/Ethiopia, and that the Chinese are hyperglobalists whose multitrillion USD infrastructural BRI is centered around opening and accessing vital trade routes and not cutting them off.
Only actor aside from the US that isn't really hurt by the Red Sea blockade is Russia.
There have been several UNSC Resolutions condemning the Ansarallah blockade of the Red Sea, the two below from March 2024 and June 2024. These resolutions were unanimous in condemning Ansarallah meaning that the whole tiresome muh brics argument is just polished up hopium.
Security Council Press Statement on Situation in Red Sea and Baab al-Mandab | Meetings Coverage and Press Releases
The following Security Council press statement was issued today by Council President Yamazaki Kazuyuki (Japan):
Adopting Resolution 2739 (2024) on Yemen, Security Council Demands Houthis Immediately Cease All Attacks against Merchant, Commercial Vessels | Meetings Coverage and Press Releases
Condemning continued attacks on merchant and commercial vessels from Houthi-controlled territories in Yemen, perpetuating an unstable and volatile situation in the Red Sea and surrounding waterways, the Security Council today adopted an updated resolution demanding that the Houthis immediately...
Hate to break it to you, but Ansarallah stands alone, just like Gaza stands alone.
Strong words from DJT. Clearly binding Houthis and Iran together. Building the narrative for a possible casus belli against Iran.
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I don't know if they stand alone or not. According to Trump, they are controlled by Iran, which I don't believe, but if so, that drags in Russia and China if Trump attacks Iran.Muh brics again. Hope you realize that Egypt is heavily hit by the decrease in Canal fees, that the Saudis and Emiratis are at war with Ansarallah and have been since 2016, that the Turks are eyeing to increase their influence in and around thr Horn through Somalia/Ethiopia, and that the Chinese are hyperglobalists whose multitrillion USD infrastructural BRI is centered around opening and accessing vital trade routes and not cutting them off.
Only actor aside from the US that isn't really hurt by the Red Sea blockade is Russia.
There have been several UNSC Resolutions condemning the Ansarallah blockade of the Red Sea, this one in March 2024. These resolutions were unanimous in blasting Ansarallah meaning that the whole tiresome muh brics argument is just polished up hopium.
Hate to break it to you, but Ansarallah stands alone, just like Gaza stands alone.
UN Security Council demands end to Red Sea attacks, calls for restraint
UN Security Council demands end to Red Sea attacks, calls for restraint-english.news.cn
UNSC demands Houthis to 'immediately stop' attacking ships in Red Sea - i24NEWS
Members emphasized the "importance of the full implementation of Resolution 2216 and subsequent decisions" to prevent the Houthis from obtaining the necessary weapons for attackswww.i24news.tv
Strong words from DJT. Clearly binding Houthis and Iran together. Building the narrative for a possible casus belli against Iran.
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What I do know is that the American people are not in favor of war, by no means at all. The middle class has disappeared, there is no help in sight, and rightfully so, no one trusts our govt. The USA has been bombing the Houthi's for nearly a decade on end, either directly or indirectly and it hasn't stopped them. So, either we are investing in a lot more bombs and better technology to destroy them, or we already were doing this and this bombing run will do no good and they will continue to do as they please until we put boots on the ground.
Muh brics again. Hope you realize that Egypt is heavily hit by the decrease in Canal fees, that the Saudis and Emiratis are at war with Ansarallah and have been since 2016, that the Turks are eyeing to increase their influence in and around thr Horn through Somalia/Ethiopia, and that the Chinese are hyperglobalists whose multitrillion USD infrastructural BRI is centered around opening and accessing vital trade routes and not cutting them off.
Only actor aside from the US that isn't really hurt by the Red Sea blockade is Russia.
There have been several UNSC Resolutions condemning the Ansarallah blockade of the Red Sea, the two below from March 2024 and June 2024. These resolutions were unanimous in condemning Ansarallah meaning that the whole tiresome muh brics argument is just polished up hopium.
Security Council Press Statement on Situation in Red Sea and Baab al-Mandab | Meetings Coverage and Press Releases
The following Security Council press statement was issued today by Council President Yamazaki Kazuyuki (Japan):press.un.org
Adopting Resolution 2739 (2024) on Yemen, Security Council Demands Houthis Immediately Cease All Attacks against Merchant, Commercial Vessels | Meetings Coverage and Press Releases
Condemning continued attacks on merchant and commercial vessels from Houthi-controlled territories in Yemen, perpetuating an unstable and volatile situation in the Red Sea and surrounding waterways, the Security Council today adopted an updated resolution demanding that the Houthis immediately...
Hate to break it to you, but Ansarallah stands alone, just like Gaza stands alone.
Strong words from DJT. Clearly binding Houthis and Iran together. Building the narrative for a possible casus belli against Iran.
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The UN links you provided show that China abstained from condemning the Houthi attacks. If China really was against this, wouldn't they vote for it? I don't think China wants to see Iran attacked guessing from their abstention. They also don't want to be associated with the Houthis either. They will stay neutral and let others destroy themselves so they can grow stronger.
Nobody wants these wars except weapons manufacturing stock holders (i.e. congress) and elite talmuds. Stop (((them))), stop the wars. Of course this can't happen when congress members, our President, and his cabinet tremble at the thought of saying the word "jew" in a negative light.
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"It’s worth pointing out that a strike on the Iranian nuclear sites will almost certainly result in thousands of American deaths at bases throughout the Middle East, and cost the United States tens of billions of dollars. The cost of future acts of terrorIsm on American soil may be even higher. Those aren’t guesses. Those are the Pentagon’s own estimates. A bombing campaign against Iran will set off a war, and it will be America’s war. Don’t let the propagandists lie to you."
Turn off Fox News for one secondThe Houthis stopped attacking ships in the Red Sea -- like they said they would -- after Israel agreed to a ceasefire to end the Gaza genocide
When Israel started a 100 percent humanitarian blockade on Gaza, the Houthis said 'F that,' and started in again.
Trump is such a coward that he'd rather bomb Yemenis than ask his owner (Netanyahu) to let some flour into the enclave
Here @LaAguilaNegra You this is what Americans are dealing with and why there is no support among the people for another war.
Your concerns for your fellow man are admirable but not in the slightest relevant in US decisionmaking and determining American geostrategic objectives. ((Foreign lobby groups)) are heavily centered around DC for a reason - and Trump is currently revitalizing the US Armed Forces for exactly that reason.
Elite theory is undefeated and the American middle class came thriving off certain macro-economic, demographic and societal curves that are nearing their end. In short it's not coming back unless a total reset takes place which will mean the end of life as you know it.
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