Wife Hunting Abroad - Data Sheets Thread

[Australia Sucks]

I will say that in both North Macedonia and Kosovo people are extremely closed minded and everybody has village mentality, which is kind of unexpected.

I say unexpected because most of these people travel to other countries (Greece, Croatia, Montenegro, Italy, etc) for holidays and have family living in other European countries or some of them even work in other countries and save money then come back to their own country, etc. So given all of that you would expect people to be more open minded but they are not.

In general people hang out with their extended family uncles, cousins, etc and their friends are their friends from high school. They rarely ever add new people to their social circle. Different ethnicities do not mix at all. I’m not just talking about marriage I’m talking about friendship and general socialisation.

For example in Kosovo I understand the Serbians and Albanians staying seperate and not talking to each other but even all the other ethnic groups keep to themselves. The Albanians only socialise with other Albanians, the Turks (who have been living there hundreds of years) only make friends with other Turks, the Gypsies only make friends with other gypsies, the Bosnians only socialise with other Bosnians. And very few foreigners apart from soldiers, NGO workers, diplomats, etc actually live there. Probably because foreigners would feel very isolated here so they choose not to live there or go back home after a few years. And most Albanian families will disown their daughter if she days sit married a foreigner.

Basically all the same points apply to North Macedonians except the last point. North Macedonians are not so extreme so their parents won’t forbid them to marry a foreigner but in general they still won’t do it because they are worried about being judged by their social circle.

 

[fortyfive]

It baffles me also.

In my eyes Australia despite being an agnostic, acted like a true Christian and bears his cross. He sacrificed his money, time, and comforts to travel across the world and share his experiences. And what did he get for his efforts and sacrifices? ridicules and insults, rather than gratitude.

While the Christians here acted more like Chews and Muslims who are only emboldened when they are numerically superior compared to their opponents. They descend like hyenas upon Australia, who bravely stands his ground despite being attacked from all sides.

I see that despite Australia's noble intentions, his threads got locked or got sent into troll's lounge like this one. Since this thread is already categorized as troll, I should just go all in.

Australia Sucks: A Journey of Words

In the labyrinth of life, he wandered, Australia Sucks, seeker of truth, A name echoing through digital realms.

From pickup lines to pixels, he wove his tale, A dance with destiny, a quest for connection, Seducing syllables, courting consonants, His keyboard a canvas, inked with desire.

He roamed foreign lands, passport inked, Chasing meaning, chasing women, His words a compass, guiding his steps, Through South America’s sultry nights, And Eastern Europe’s enigmatic skies.

Virginity, his creed— A fusion of biology and tradition, A rejection of Western decay, He stood firm, a sentinel of old ways.

Yet, controversy clung to his name, Agnosticism whispered in the shadows, Autism, PUA—accusations hurled, As Australia danced on the precipice.

Then, a metamorphosis—unseen, profound, He turned from the path of passion, To the Roman Catholic Church he knelt, Condemning past words, seeking redemption.

And so, Australia became a paradox, A mosaic of contradictions, a human tale, A poet, a wanderer, a seeker of grace, Australia Sucks—etched in pixels and ink.

By DoraemonAI

 

[Blade Runner]

looking for short term girlfriends,

I didn't see this but I haven't scoured every post.

I would say that if someone is wife hunting in a foreign land, I would expect to see them presenting travel arrangements that explain how they will meet, court, and marry this foreign girl, and will they move to live in the foreign country, or bring their bride back home. If the trip appears to be short term with no logistics planned for follow up, I'd still expect it is sex tourism.

While I understand where you are coming from, you're asking a lot from strangers and I even wonder how they might "prove" any of this to you. Also, my feeling is that much of what is acceptable in the USA, for example, wouldn't be considered "sex tourism" but once you go to other places all of a sudden you're on that list as a sort of "guilty until proven innocent" phenomenon, even though women are starving you out in the west for both attention, femininity, and any sort of physical touch.

It comes down to the personality of certain posters. Some guys are control freaks who want to police the behavior of others even online which is a fools errand. When it’s something they don’t agree with then they police it, but if they agree then they tend to let it slip. Regardless, controlling behavior stems from insecurity. How they pile on Australia like a mob is even more concerning.

I have to say I'm in this camp. Australia got trolled majorly with irrelevant or spam like posts while he was just asking questions. It's one thing to direct someone, it's another to just blow up whole pages with nonsense. By the way, people can check that there are some things Australia and I don't necessarily agree on, but I don't go far to shame or accuse him.

I'll be honest, I intend to visit new countries, or ones I've been to before, but I can't say I will have something planned like an itinerary that is set up by a spiritual father. Believe me, I sorta wish I did. And that's the point, we're only going overseas because of the dirth of marriageable women here. We can debate that point, and that might be more fruitful, but regardless of that reality it is the perspective of most of this forum and the entire forum history is basically based on it.

 

[Get2choppaaa]

I didn't see this but I haven't scoured every post.

While I understand where you are coming from, you're asking a lot from strangers and I even wonder how they might "prove" any of this to you. Also, my feeling is that much of what is acceptable in the USA, for example, wouldn't be considered "sex tourism" but once you go to other places all of a sudden you're on that list as a sort of "guilty until proven innocent" phenomenon, even though women are starving you out in the west for both attention, femininity, and any sort of physical touch.

I have to say I'm in this camp. Australia got trolled majorly with irrelevant or spam like posts while he was just asking questions. It's one thing to direct someone, it's another to just blow up whole pages with nonsense. By the way, people can check that there are some things Australia and I don't necessarily agree on, but I don't go far to shame or accuse him.

I'll be honest, I intend to visit new countries, or ones I've been to before, but I can't say I will have something planned like an itinerary that is set up by a spiritual father. Believe me, I sorta wish I did. And that's the point, we're only going overseas because of the dirth of marriageable women here. We can debate that point, and that might be more fruitful, but regardless of that reality it is the perspective of most of this forum and the entire forum history is basically based on it.

I think you're taking a somewhat sympathetic view because of your own life predicament frankly.

Others in a different view point are not so sympathetic. And when you look at 4 different threads spanning the point we have now come to... It's not the DaVinci Code level of puzzle to see why some responded the way we did

 

[PurpleUrkel]

... we're only going overseas because of the dirth of marriageable women here...

This guy with his crypto-ortho-bro gambling addiction and his theoretically conceptualized EU virgin poo-nanny addiction. Putting poosy up on a pedestal to the point where you're willing to travel thousands of miles to "marry" it while abandoning your home country because it's world dominante currency is about to "collapse" (Lol) is the very definition of simping. And bitcoin is the very definition of gambling. Don't listen to women addicted gamblers. Go celebate monk mode and divest from all JQ invented financial scams now. You're welcome.

And stop feeding the trolls!

 

[Lawrence87]

Real life is not so black and white.

Just because you are looking for a wife most men are still only human and if on this wife hunting endeavour an attractive woman offered herself up for a night of fun how many men on this forum in all honesty would turn her down? Of course a lot of men here can be keyboard warriors and say they would never partake in a one night stand but we know it’s a lie.

Also most guys just because they are looking for a wife doesn’t mean they wouldn’t settle for a girlfriend if they can’t get a wife material woman. Again people can choose to be keyboard warriors and lie about it but how many men if they are being honest about it would choose monk mode over having a girlfriend?

In terms of my plan I would relocate to the country where the girl lives if I’m going to marry her and learn the language and maybe live their 8 months a year and 4 months a year in Australia (so I can earn some money in Australia and also if it’s a cold country escape their winter).

First off seeking a wife and seeking a casual relationship are different things. You aren't going to meet a virgin tradwife if you are at a nightclub. So the idea that when looking for a wife you're going to bump into someone up for a one night stand is dubious. Women who are looking for a stable husband are not going to nightclubs. Conversely, men who wish to be stable husbands are not going to nightclubs.

It is the case that many men would fall in the scenario that you describe. That's why godly men stay away from places where women are going to offer themselves up in such a fashion. Only a fool is going to go to a nightclub to look for a wife and then going "ooops I ended up in bed with a slut, oh well"

And yes, many men are going monk mode, because they realise that chasing after women who have no intention of marriage is going in the opposite direction of finding the kind of spouse that they desire. Seeking a virgin wife and perpetuating the culture that is pushing women in the opposite direction is foolish and contradictory. It encourages the behaviour that is causing a scarcity of good women, it is the kind of behaviour that good women will be put off by, all round it is stupid.

 

[Australia Sucks]

I will say that in both North Macedonia and Kosovo people are extremely closed minded and everybody has village mentality, which is kind of unexpected.

I say unexpected because most of these people travel to other countries (Greece, Croatia, Montenegro, Italy, etc) for holidays and have family living in other European countries or some of them even work in other countries and save money then come back to their own country, etc. So given all of that you would expect people to be more open minded but they are not.

In general people hang out with their extended family uncles, cousins, etc and their friends are their friends from high school. They rarely ever add new people to their social circle. Different ethnicities do not mix at all. I’m not just talking about marriage I’m talking about friendship and general socialisation.

For example in Kosovo I understand the Serbians and Albanians staying seperate and not talking to each other but even all the other ethnic groups keep to themselves. The Albanians only socialise with other Albanians, the Turks (who have been living there hundreds of years) only make friends with other Turks, the Gypsies only make friends with other gypsies, the Bosnians only socialise with other Bosnians. And very few foreigners apart from soldiers, NGO workers, diplomats, etc actually live there. Probably because foreigners would feel very isolated here so they choose not to live there or go back home after a few years. And most Albanian families will disown their daughter if she days sit married a foreigner.

Basically all the same points apply to North Macedonians except the last point. North Macedonians are not so extreme so their parents won’t forbid them to marry a foreigner but in general they still won’t do it because they are worried about being judged by their social circle.

Also the hypocrisy and double standards of Balkans people is quite evident. They are quite happy to go live and work in western countries to earn more money and expect to be well received by the locals (which they largely are) but they will treat any foreigners in their country as social outcasts.

The burden of being a westerner is that we are obliged to be welcoming to all in our own countries but do not recieve equal treatment back in other countries.

Just like how if one day Europe broke out into full scale war and European refugees decided to escape to the Middle East or Africa I can guarantee you they won’t receive the same good treatment that refugees currently receive in Europe.

 

[Get2choppaaa]

Top 5 most autistic threads I've read so far here ..

 

[Blade Runner]

I think you're taking a somewhat sympathetic view because of your own life predicament frankly.

I say the same thing about those who are married and/or have kids, to be fair, and the reality is that I see the married people being many times envious of single people in various ways, while also competitive with them in an unhealthy way to celebrate the fact that others might not be having kids, making the married with kids crowd so "special."

I am sympathetic because I don't have this competitive streak that I've seen be destructive in the forums previous days; oddly enough, it never seems to go away. It's the same thing with the current state of things that I have also pointed out: women hate older men being with younger women, but I've always pointed out that a lot of older men also hate this. And it's chicken shit. That they don't admit it I feel is even worse. We don't expect women to admit it because we know, but we also should expect that men aren't also trying to sabotage, yet they do (some, not all, in my view).

This guy with his crypto-ortho-bro gambling addiction and his theoretically conceptualized EU virgin poo-nanny addiction. Putting poosy up on a pedestal to the point where you're willing to travel thousands of miles to "marry" it while abandoning your home country because it's world dominante currency is about to "collapse" (Lol) is the very definition of simping. And bitcoin is the very definition of gambling. Don't listen to women addicted gamblers. Go celebate monk mode and divest from all JQ invented financial scams now. You're welcome.

It's getting laughable at this point, but I still don't count you an adversary. It's just a bad look to be this emotional and bring up other topics to show how unhinged you can be at times. I neither have any requirement of a "virgin wife" nor do I put "pussy on a pedestal". If I did I'd constantly be out hounding it, doing anything it takes, using apps and all the like but I don't because the ROI is poor. That's the definition of not putting pussy on a pedestal, by the way.

Notice that the last comment is again telling someone to just "give up" because he knows better. The problem is, PurpleDrank doesn't know better. And I won't give up because that's the despair that the demons want you to fall into. Get behind me.

 

[ginsu]

Also the hypocrisy and double standards of Balkans people is quite evident. They are quite happy to go live and work in western countries to earn more money and expect to be well received by the locals (which they largely are) but they will treat any foreigners in their country as social outcasts.

The burden of being a westerner is that we are obliged to be welcoming to all in our own countries but do not recieve equal treatment back in other countries.

Just like how if one day Europe broke out into full scale war and European refugees decided to escape to the Middle East or Africa I can guarantee you they won’t receive the same good treatment that refugees currently receive in Europe.

There will always be cultural things that will bother us as immigrants going to another country. But if you are already spotting downsides in the first weeks maybe its better to look for places where you do have a great time from the start. The first months to a year+ should be honeymoonphase in a new country if it isnt maybe its not the right place for you. Or you need to have some reason for it to make it worth it overcomming those hurdles and hope it will get better later on.

 

[Get2choppaaa]

There will always be cultural things that will bother us as immigrants going to another country. But if you are already spotting downsides in the first weeks maybe its better to look for places where you do have a great time from the start. The first months to a year+ should be honeymoonphase in a new country if it isnt maybe its not the right place for you. Or you need to have some reason for it to make it worth it overcomming those hurdles and hope it will get better later on.

Clearly the downside is that there isnt a slew of ready trad virgins awaiting to be dashers off their feet by a foreigner whose not living a "trad" lifestyle.

 

[SkiPro]

It would be much better to stop this infighting, sniping and general nonsense. We are all here for roughly the same reasons, because we see things differently from the rest of the normie world. If we fight each other then we are on our own and this place stops being such a valuaable resource for men of our type.

It's summer here, the sun is out and it's 30 degrees. Women have ditched the black leggings, trainers and heavy coats and pretty summer dresses and shorts are everywhere. They can't hide themselves away in this weather.

Every now and then you see one not compromised by piercings and tattoos.

Enjoy it whilst it lasts And let's not fight and bitch like women. We are better than that we are men, and there is no one set way to be a man. We all know that.

 

[Australia Sucks]

Sometimes you go to a new country and you almost immediately (within a few weeks) don’t like the vibe of the place. I’ll spend a couple more weeks in North Macedonia to finish off some sightseeing and I’ll probably never go back after that.

 

[Australia Sucks]

In many countries (including some European countries) it is legal to marry a 16 year old if you have written parental permission and approval from a magistrate. In terms of age gap acceptance which countries in Europe if any would this be feasible and likely to be accepted by the girl and her family?

 

[Let God Arise]

In many countries (including some European countries) it is legal to marry a 16 year old if you have written parental permission and approval from a magistrate. In terms of age gap acceptance which countries in Europe if any would this be feasible and likely to be accepted by the girl and her family?

Listen, Autism Sucks, you're not going to get far on this forum, if you start chasing 16 year old girls. Seriously, go home to wherever you came from and improve yourself before trying to "game" some innocent girls. Disgusting.

 

[Lawrence87]

I don't really have any objections on principle to the subject of this thread. The main reason I took a disliking to the behaviour of AustraliaSucks is because he openly declared in one of his other duplicate threads that he is seeking to run game and date people and (if they aren't virgins) he clearly stated that marriage is not his intention. Then when that thread got shut down he skulked back to the finding a wife abroad thread and then made out he was after a wife all along. When I challenged him about his true intentions, like a snake, he did not speak openly about them despite letting them slip in his other thread. Stuff like that warrants calling out. As does being autistic about datasheets and making duplicate threads.

I have zero objections if someone is sincere in looking to find a wife abroad. I have reason to believe AustraliaSucks is being insincere and therefore I'm going to call him on it. Most of his ramblings read more like that of a "sex tourist" than that of someone with the sincere goal of marriage.

 

[Australia Sucks]

Listen, Autism Sucks, you're not going to get far on this forum, if you start chasing 16 year old girls. Seriously, go home to wherever you came from and improve yourself before trying to "game" some innocent girls. Disgusting.

If you are looking for a woman to marry younger women are more likely to be virgins.

Besides even just 100 - 200 years ago it was completely normal for 16 year old women to get married (it was considered normal in most societies for most of human history). It’s just modern degenerate society that has tried to make it seem abnormal. From a biological perspective 16 year old women are more than capable of bearing children.

What’s wrong with marrying a 16 year old and providing her with a good life? As long it’s legal in the country you are in I don’t see the problem.

 

[Blade Runner]

In many countries (including some European countries) it is legal to marry a 16 year old if you have written parental permission and approval from a magistrate. In terms of age gap acceptance which countries in Europe if any would this be feasible and likely to be accepted by the girl and her family?

He's just trolling you back now. As much as I think the idea of this is based historically and biologically, it is light years away and well beyond even repealing the 19th. This kind of thing would only happen in a new, survival based world (old standard survival).

 

[Blade Runner]

What’s wrong with marrying a 16 year old and providing her with a good life? As long it’s legal in the country you are in I don’t see the problem.

If you can pull it off I'd love to hear about it. It would be funny if you did this and proved the others wrong, in that you got married to a young virgin.

 

[Get2choppaaa]

Biologically 16 may be viable.

Socially and culturally it is not.

I do think you're a fucking weirdo if you're trying to marry a 16 year old girl.

When I was divorced and dating at 28 I had a girlfriend for a while who was 20. Aside from not being legal to drink when we went out dancing...we had zero intellectual and cultural commonslities.

At that point you're just with them because they are young and hot.

So you can't get around the objectification thing.

Bitching about western degeneracy while being an atheist is fucking rich.