Passion of the Christ anyone?

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I've had a rough Holy Week, I can't sleep and I decided to watch POC again, anybody else? It really is a masterpiece. Just this little scene where Jesus invents the high table (nice detail) and then goofs around with his Mary. Sorta shows how the seemingly trivial aspects of love play an important, and even salvific role in our faith.
 
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Great movie. Lots of artistic detail. It is worth watching the deleted scenes and the director's commentary. If I remember correctly, it has something like 7 commentaries. One with Mel Gibson, one with Mel Gibson and two Catholic priests, and I forgot what the other ones were.

I've been waiting for the sequel for a while now. It can either be amazing or disastrous.
 
I've been waiting for the sequel for a while now. It can either be amazing or disastrous.
Well, there is Risen, with Cliff Curtis, and that one I like and it is basically a sequel. It's told from the perspective of a Roman tribune, who tries to get behind all the Resurrection business and becomes a believer in the process. It tunes down a bit on displaying Jesus, which I like a lot, because playing/directing Jesus well is a pretty difficult job.
 
I feel like the movie is very Catholic in its focus on the violence, brutality, and suffering of Christ. Whilst these things are reflections of the reality of what went down, Orthodox depictions of the crucifixion tend to portray Christ as almost serene. They do not show a contorted, blood soaked man:

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I think this is because the focus of the crucifixion is not the horror and pain, but always has eyes towards the resurrection and is viewed as a moment of victory. It is almost not surprising with that in mind, that a resurrection based sequel is taking forever to be made.

I don't think its a terrible movie, but there is something off about its focus on gore and violence.
 
I feel like the movie is very Catholic in its focus on the violence, brutality, and suffering of Christ. Whilst these things are reflections of the reality of what went down, Orthodox depictions of the crucifixion tend to portray Christ as almost serene. They do not show a contorted, blood soaked man:

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I think this is because the focus of the crucifixion is not the horror and pain, but always has eyes towards the resurrection and is viewed as a moment of victory. It is almost not surprising with that in mind, that a resurrection based sequel is taking forever to be made.

I don't think its a terrible movie, but there is something off about its focus on gore and violence.

Do you suppose it is because the icons cannot capture the details of his sufferings as much as a film would? The gospels clearly state he was scourged, and realistically that was a brutal affair.
 
Do you suppose it is because the icons cannot capture the details of his sufferings as much as a film would? The gospels clearly state he was scourged, and realistically that was a brutal affair.
I do understand the argument in terms of iconography and church depictions, but the film is not an icon for liturgical purposes.

Emphasizing the Christus Victor moment as opposed to the suffering is something we do in liturgy, but at the same time is the joy of the resurrection intimately connected to the suffering.

The violence in the movie is pretty rough, but they didn't indulge in it, as far as I can tell. I feel like the movie goes to great lengths depicting the feelings of temptation and doubt everyone involved must have gone through. I am really not one to enjoy torture porn movies, but that's not the vibe I get from POC.

I also like the depiction of the pharisees, because it is based and redpilled, and probably historically accurate.
 

It’s been 20 years since the release of “The Passion of the Christ” and it remains one of the most well-known Christian classics of all time.

But did you know the impressive conversion testimony of Barabbas actor Pedro Sarubbi? That’s right, he experienced something amazing during the film’s production, which led him closer to Christ.

After its 2004 release, “The Passion of the Christ” actor Pietro Sarubbi recounted his mystical experience to various news outlets, including the Italian daily Avvenire and Zenit.

“I felt an electric current”

“As Barabbas, Gibson told me to avoid looking at Jim Caviezel, who played Jesus, until the very scene in which we were to appear together.

“‘Barabbas is like a ferocious dog,’ he told me, ‘but at one moment he becomes a puppy: when he meets the Son of God and is saved. I want your look to be that of somebody seeing Jesus for the first time.'”

“I did as he said, and when our eyes met, I felt a sort of surge. It was like I was really seeing Jesus. I had never experienced such a thing in all my years of acting,” the Italian actor said.

At that moment, Sarubbi said he finally found the peace he longed for.

“It was a big impact,” he told Zenit. “I felt as if there was an electric current between us. I saw Jesus Himself.”

“When looking at me, his eyes had no hate or resentment–only mercy and love,” he acknowledged in his book, “From Barabbas to Jesus: Converted by a Glance.”

“It was not only a professional, but above all, a human experience,” Sarubbi added. “I am not embarrassed to say that during the filming, I had a conversion. All of the actors who took part changed a little bit after this experience, but I have learned much more from the film than from any conference.”

The actor also explained his long road to conversion.

“I have done extensive anthropological research, as a man and as an actor. I was instructed in the martial arts…I lived in a Tibetan monastery for six months with a vow of silence. I practiced meditation in India. I lived in the Amazon. I have reached the final goal of this search in Jesus.”
 
I do understand the argument in terms of iconography and church depictions, but the film is not an icon for liturgical purposes.

Emphasizing the Christus Victor moment as opposed to the suffering is something we do in liturgy, but at the same time is the joy of the resurrection intimately connected to the suffering.

The violence in the movie is pretty rough, but they didn't indulge in it, as far as I can tell. I feel like the movie goes to great lengths depicting the feelings of temptation and doubt everyone involved must have gone through. I am really not one to enjoy torture porn movies, but that's not the vibe I get from POC.

I also like the depiction of the pharisees, because it is based and redpilled, and probably historically accurate.
I have only watched it once because of the extreme violence and gore. It's more than I want to see.

I thought the movie was excellent, and would want to watch it again except for the gore issue. I would definitely be interested to watch a sequel done by Mel.
 
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