Paternos is fake (Discussion)

[Iacobus]

I see a lot of people are up in hubbub about this so-called "paternos" and his CIK posts. But let me suggest to you that you are all being deceived...

One world order. Propaganda. Divide and conquer. Think about it.

Reference: COINTELPRO Techniques for Dilution, Misdirection and Control of an Internet Forum

Technique #3 – ‘TOPIC DILUTION’

Topic dilution is not only effective in forum sliding it is also very useful in keeping the forum readers on unrelated and non-productive issues. This is a critical and useful technique to cause a ‘RESOURCE BURN.’ By implementing continual and non-related postings that distract and disrupt (trolling ) the forum readers they are more effectively stopped from anything of any real productivity. If the intensity of gradual dilution is intense enough, the readers will effectively stop researching and simply slip into a ‘gossip mode.’ In this state they can be more easily misdirected away from facts towards uninformed conjecture and opinion. The less informed they are the more effective and easy it becomes to control the entire group in the direction that you would desire the group to go in. It must be stressed that a proper assessment of the psychological capabilities and levels of education is first determined of the group to determine at what level to ‘drive in the wedge.’ By being too far off topic too quickly it may trigger censorship by a forum moderator.

Sound familiar? How many threads have been turned from discussion of critical real-world issues, to debating the very basics of reality?

We are constantly being divided; globe model vs flat earthers, nukes are real vs nukes are fake, conflicts are real vs all an orchestrated show show.

We hear his claims often but they are never made concrete. I think the real manifestation of paternos is mental. Disinformation. Propaganda. Time and time again.

Distrust. Fear. Division. Undermining of discernment. Who does this serve?

I mean just LOOK at his posts do they seriously seem real to you? How can anyone take them seriously! They are laughable. Some people say "paternos a real CIK user." I just see pixels on a screen. In fact in all my time on CIK I have never seen a single shred of evidence that paternos is a real human.

Theater for the masses.



Some may bristle at the fact that their dearly held presuppositions about paternos are being questioned. No matter, the most profound red pills are hardest to swallow. I simply question what we are presented with more than the normal CIK user.

Yes kids, if you just question the very fabric of reality enough and watch enough deepfried bitchute videos, you knows, you could be the next paternos. It works perfectly and CIK users simply gobble it up.

I am merely searching for the truth. Just consider... maybe I am right and you are wrong.

Whatever is non-observable, I consider to be in the realm of propaganda.

If you disagree, fine... you are a believer. I'm not.

If anyone has hard proof that "paternos" is real please present it ITT. Show me even one single piece of proof. I am open to being convinced. No photoshops or mainstream news media article sources please. Where can I go see paternos? I've traveled to 25 countries and never once seen paternos or even spoken to anybody who had heard of him. Smoke and mirrors. All the world's a stage...

Until I see such proof, my conclusion stands: fake person, fake posts, fake paternos.

 

[Caduceus]

 

[MusicForThePiano]

I don't think anyone here is an "AI" or a bot. Him and I severely agree and disagree on many things, as I do with many of you, but where would we be without conflict? It is conflict that improves the lot of civilization and single being both. Conflict forces one to better oneself. It forces change, adaption, growth, or death. These are not our laws, but the God's. Without conflict, you have only stagnation, regression, and the multiplication of sin in an easy life.

I understand your point about him, many of these topics are considered fringe, though as time goes on they become less fringe, especially in the post-covid-vax world, where many more people have awakened to the corruption of the world system and all the lies they taut everyday.

That you came to this conclusion, though I do not think he is fake, is evidence that you are thinking more than the average person, and exploring ideas and concepts that the drones of everyday could never contemplate, even if you refuse to engage in these discussions because of a perception of them being worthless. Perhaps Paternos, or anyone who poses these questions, whether he is real or some kind of artificial concept, with existential inquiries, is needed to provoke people like us out a stupor of simply towing the line for status quo issues.

We forget many lessons if we do not actively practice them. Flexing philosophical debate and critical thinking skills is no different than a physical muscle.

Also, who or what is the arbiter of reality? There is majority opinion, minority dissention, and sometimes there is half and half on some issue in any demographic. Medical reality was very different five years ago for millions of people than it is today, and that was a fatal mistake for many. We must always be on our guard, or else we may learn something that could be the lest lesson in our earthly lives.

 

[scorpion]

When I first began to read paternos posts, I felt a new awareness awaken within me. It was like a veil had been lifted and I could see clearly for the first time. A total shift in perspective that was accompanied by the realization that so many things I had previously taken at face value were actually fake. I began to cast a critical eye everywhere I looked. With each new paternos post I read, my awareness and discernment increased, and I was able to continually spot more and more deception in the world.

Eventually, I had the startling realization that the very computer monitor in which I was reading paternos posts was itself fake, which briefly caused me to question everything I'd known up to that point. But fortunately, I was soon able to acquire a new monitor that I was able to confirm as being real (a 25 year-old, 19 inch CRT monitor that weighs 45 lbs, which I rest on top of my stomach while I use it, in order that the constant pressure it exerts on my body serves to testify to its substance and physical actuality) and which I subsequently have used exclusively while reading paternos posts.

Now posting this while lying on the floor under the reassuring weight of my giant heavy monitor. Life has never been better or felt more real and substantive. And I owe this revelation all to reading paternos posts.

 

[Blade Runner]

For a long time I would see the name, then the spaces and scroll down thinking, where is the

TL;DR

 

[RedLagoon]

When I first began to read paternos posts, I felt a new awareness awaken within me. It was like a veil had been lifted and I could see clearly for the first time. A total shift in perspective that was accompanied by the realization that so many things I had previously taken at face value were actually fake. I began to cast a critical eye everywhere I looked. With each new paternos post I read, my awareness and discernment increased, and I was able to continually spot more and more deception in the world.

Eventually, I had the startling realization that the very computer monitor in which I was reading paternos posts was itself fake, which briefly caused me to question everything I'd known up to that point. But fortunately, I was soon able to acquire a new monitor that I was able to confirm as being real (a 25 year-old, 19 inch CRT monitor that weighs 45 lbs, which I rest on top of my stomach while I use it, in order that the constant pressure it exerts on my body serves to testify to its substance and physical actuality) and which I subsequently have used exclusively while reading paternos posts.

Now posting this while lying on the floor under the reassuring weight of my giant heavy monitor. Life has never been better or felt more real and substantive. And I owe this revelation all to reading paternos posts.

I've never seen your giant monitor exhibiting its weight on your tummy so I call fake post.

 

[Thomas More]

I am troubled by Paternos thinking real things are fake. He probably doesn't believe in 9/11 because he's never been to New York, so he doesn't believe the state exists at all, let alone believing in NYC or "twin towers".

However, I remember there being a draft Paternos thread, asking him to come back. There are a number of other members who disbelieve things I know to be real. If we asked Paternos to come back, which I still support, then I think there has to be a balance between calling things as they are, and maybe giving him a hard time here and there, vs outright ridicule and scorn.

I would rather see Paternos stay and come around in his views. There are a lot of things in the news I automatically think are fake. I just draw the line differently than he does. It's not like he's saying men can have babies.

I figure I'm not the reality police, and I don't need to make anybody see things the way I do. I'll state my view, and if they don't agree, I let them go their way.

 

[Steady Hands]

I see a lot of people are up in hubbub about this so-called "paternos" and his CIK posts. But let me suggest to you that you are all being deceived...

One world order. Propaganda. Divide and conquer. Think about it.

Reference: COINTELPRO Techniques for Dilution, Misdirection and Control of an Internet Forum



Sound familiar? How many threads have been turned from discussion of critical real-world issues, to debating the very basics of reality?

We are constantly being divided; globe model vs flat earthers, nukes are real vs nukes are fake, conflicts are real vs all an orchestrated show show.

We hear his claims often but they are never made concrete. I think the real manifestation of paternos is mental. Disinformation. Propaganda. Time and time again.

Distrust. Fear. Division. Undermining of discernment. Who does this serve?

I mean just LOOK at his posts do they seriously seem real to you? How can anyone take them seriously! They are laughable. Some people say "paternos a real CIK user." I just see pixels on a screen. In fact in all my time on CIK I have never seen a single shred of evidence that paternos is a real human.

Theater for the masses.

View attachment 7459

Some may bristle at the fact that their dearly held presuppositions about paternos are being questioned. No matter, the most profound red pills are hardest to swallow. I simply question what we are presented with more than the normal CIK user.

Yes kids, if you just question the very fabric of reality enough and watch enough deepfried bitchute videos, you knows, you could be the next paternos. It works perfectly and CIK users simply gobble it up.

I am merely searching for the truth. Just consider... maybe I am right and you are wrong.

Whatever is non-observable, I consider to be in the realm of propaganda.

If you disagree, fine... you are a believer. I'm not.

If anyone has hard proof that "paternos" is real please present it ITT. Show me even one single piece of proof. I am open to being convinced. No photoshops or mainstream news media article sources please. Where can I go see paternos? I've traveled to 25 countries and never once seen paternos or even spoken to anybody who had heard of him. Smoke and mirrors. All the world's a stage...

Until I see such proof, my conclusion stands: fake person, fake posts, fake paternos.

Post of the Month

When I first began to read paternos posts, I felt a new awareness awaken within me. It was like a veil had been lifted and I could see clearly for the first time. A total shift in perspective that was accompanied by the realization that so many things I had previously taken at face value were actually fake. I began to cast a critical eye everywhere I looked. With each new paternos post I read, my awareness and discernment increased, and I was able to continually spot more and more deception in the world.

Eventually, I had the startling realization that the very computer monitor in which I was reading paternos posts was itself fake, which briefly caused me to question everything I'd known up to that point. But fortunately, I was soon able to acquire a new monitor that I was able to confirm as being real (a 25 year-old, 19 inch CRT monitor that weighs 45 lbs, which I rest on top of my stomach while I use it, in order that the constant pressure it exerts on my body serves to testify to its substance and physical actuality) and which I subsequently have used exclusively while reading paternos posts.

Now posting this while lying on the floor under the reassuring weight of my giant heavy monitor. Life has never been better or felt more real and substantive. And I owe this revelation all to reading paternos posts.

Thanks for the laughs fellas

 

[RedLagoon]

This thread reminds me of old RVF, but then again that might just be a false memory.

 

[stadtaffe]

I am troubled by Paternos thinking real things are fake. He probably doesn't believe in 9/11 because he's never been to New York, so he doesn't believe the state exists at all, let alone believing in NYC or "twin towers".

Seems to have a strong disbelief in the current wars as well.

Why not go and do some war tourism if one is that doubtful? Travel to Gaza and see for oneself, travel to Ukraine.. If it's all fireworks and AI simulations it should surely be a laugh to go and have a fine old time there and laugh at the fake simulation of it all while relaxing at a Gazan café or bar and soaking up the atmosphere.

I would rather see Paternos stay and come around in his views. There are a lot of things in the news I automatically think are fake. I just draw the line differently than he does. It's not like he's saying men can have babies.

Men can have babies.
Atomic weapons / satellites do not exist

Not sure I see the difference they are both very messed up ideas to have in your head, worse share with others on any platform.

 

[Ember]

^^^I hear Chasiv Yar is lovely at this time of year...

 

[Kiwi]

Anyone that posts here that continually slips into threads to argue, change your mind or even questioning something different to a common, popular, "normie narrative" is a massive red flag. Why don't these people simply leave?

Wolves in sheep's clothing.

We all collectively went through Covid and the jab - if that didn't teach you anything, nothing will - we need not pay any attention. Keep the conversation rolling and move on.

 

[KomnenAl]

I think he means well, I agree with his theology takes, but he has some very messed up ideas, that can't be left alive in your head without collateral damage. This is called a temptation from the right. The edges are always demonic, too much of a good thing (in this case red pils) leads to evil.

 

[mountainaire]

Remember, we'd all get called "conspiracy theorists" for holding many of the accepted positions on this forum. Skepticism of the official 9/11 story, covid, the holocaust, election fraud, acknowledgment of Jewish control of the media, etc...

We're all "conspiracy theorists" depending on who you ask. If someone decides to go "one conspiracy theory further" than what you're used to, should the reaction be mocking and derision?

Myself from 10 years ago would certainly call current me all of those things.

 

[RedLagoon]

Remember, we'd all get called "conspiracy theorists" for holding many of the accepted positions on this forum. Skepticism of the official 9/11 story, covid, the holocaust, election fraud, acknowledgment of Jewish control of the media, etc...

We're all "conspiracy theorists" depending on who you ask. If someone decides to go "one conspiracy theory further" than what you're used to, should the reaction be mocking and derision?

Myself from 10 years ago would certainly call current me all of those things.

It's obvious that this thread is not mocking @paternos well at least I'm not but the 'make conspiracy theories as crazy as possible' is a real thing to taint the real conspiracies.

We, as a forum, need to keep our heads screwed on as they don't want us coming for their heads for what they did when they pulled the big convid and they seem to be panicking with their lunacy spy ops.

Soon the conspiracy theorists will be the normie.

Edit; there's something "Magical" with going beyond the conspiracy and to enjoy your own trip of finding some kind of forfilment of being just different and that was the whole point of the new age wave during the 60s but no rants for me today.

 

[Vas Incrementum]

Is the pope Catholic

It's obvious that this thread is not mocking @paternos well at least I'm not but the 'make conspiracy theories as crazy as possible' is a real thing to taint the real conspiracies.

That, in my opinion, is the function of David Icke and the reason he has been unmolested and able to make a decent living. His schtick is to undermine Christianity by sowing gnostic ideas and to take conspiracies into the realm of the absurd. If he was really about waking up the "sheeple", he would have worked his way through the plausible and provable first, before tackling anything else.

I'm not going make any call regarding Paternos, but I'd be very surprised if there aren't a few (((members))) using Cass Sunstein's nudge techniques to sow doubt and division. Forums like this could be a training ground for certain units, such as the 77 Brigade.

 

[KomnenAl]

I think he means well, I agree with his theology takes, but he has some very messed up ideas, that can't be left alive in your head without collateral damage. This is called a temptation from the right. The edges are always demonic, too much of a good thing (in this case red pils) leads to evil.

After reading this...

Muslim bad, irrational, just out there to kill random people. I think nobody died in Moscow, it's the same propaganda, Muslims are after you.

...I realize that my above post is far too charitable.

 

[PurpleUrkel]

You're guilty until proven innocent. There is often far too much leeway and engagement with trollish, fed-like behavior. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it's a duck.

Like RVF, CiK can attract some crazies who can't stand the politics and religion associated with this place. These people would literally like to harm many of us, and would go to great lengths to do so.

 

[Samseau]

Paternos is doubting Thomas taken to the extreme. He needs to apply more skepticism to his own skepticism and speak with less certainty about the things he is uncertain about. That would get other members less riled up against you, Paternos, with respect.

I like him as a poster, because skepticism doesn't bother me, but I recognize he is too certain about things he shouldn't be. Paternos isn't the only one.

All the flat earther guys, the nukes are fake (which has plenty of room for skepticism), and space is fake crowd also fall prey to being skeptical without being skeptical towards their own arguments.

Skepticism is a double-edged sword that must be applied evenly to everything in order to be effective.

 

[MusicForThePiano]

That, in my opinion, is the function of David Icke and the reason he has been unmolested and able to make a decent living. His schtick is to undermine Christianity by sowing gnostic ideas and to take conspiracies into the realm of the absurd. If he was really about waking up the "sheeple", he would have worked his way through the plausible and provable first, before tackling anything else.

Yes, this is correct. David Icke is not the truth, despite how he incorporates many truthful statements into his conspiratorial tirades. I have seen enough of him to know that there he is part of a budding new-age cult that, though is in opposition to the existing old-age cult that is in power of all the institutions, is also a false ideal to put hope and faith into. Though it is interesting how many people associate Reptilians with jews, and serpentine scales with khazars now because of this cross-association.

I have heard on several occasions that the entire point of this new-age cult seeks to destroy the current power-brokers and through a seemingly earthly golden age, would also inadvertently usher in perdition. Many of them are also fake personalities that do not truly oppose the established power structures.

Navigating who or what is an intelligence asset beyond the rank-in-file duty agent, but rather propagandists of marxist think tanks, whose ultimate goal is to undermine Christendom and the truth of the real Israelites by any means necessary, is not easy for those without great discernment.

I'm not going make any call regarding Paternos, but I'd be very surprised if there aren't a few (((members))) using Cass Sunstein's nudge techniques to sow doubt and division. Forums like this could be a training ground for certain units, such as the 77 Brigade.

Clever little jab. I'm still waiting for people to explain how these tactics, which did not originate with that overblown academic jew, can have any effect in the fields of cosmology, physics, biology, or any of the sciences when their intended purpose can only work with a physical force-multiplier like paramilitaries and armed "extremist" groups, or in coercing a population to do harmful things to themselves without realizing it.

Everything mainstream is potentially a psyop, as some of you like to call it, or what can be seen as believing and behaving in accordance with what does no harm to the "elite" but only stagnates the mind, body, and soul of the "non-elite," and believing in too much of the mainstream leads to an early inevitable death.

If someone here is exposing holes in the mainstream concepts of nuclear weapons, globe theory, or dinosaurs, how does that benefit the elite? I would gladly sow doubt in paying taxes, which no one should be doing, but when you start actively messing with their IV drip of free money by convincing people to do otherwise, then the shadow psyop tactics really begin on their part and their digital hounds that they would send not only to disrupt these conversations but also to likely take legal consequences against or potentially maim and kill. This happened to plenty of doctors during the controlled experiment of 2020 and 2021. That Pakistani doctor Buttar was murdered because his voice reached many people. That is the end result of breaking a psyop that interferes with their plans for all who dare.

What I notice is, almost all of us here virtually agree without a minutia of difference on the following:

-God above all else
-Jesus Christ is the Lord and Savior
-Christian societies are the only societies worth having or saving
-Prayer is a daily and nightly essential (so is fasting for many of us)
-Porn, masturbation, and sleeping around are bad for the soul and everything else
-Dating is garbage, "game" and PUA are against natural biology and morality
-keeping healthy T levels (not for egotistical purposes)
-Communism is Satanism is judaism etc
-Homofaggotry is a prime evil, trannyism is it's epitome
-Soy is evil
-NATO is evil
-Every US politician is a prostitute sellout and a traitor to the American people
-the EU needs to dissolve
-jews are really bad creatures
-"Vaccines" are not safe and effective, but poisonous and lethal, much more so with MRNA tech
-Most modern medicine is a sham
-Invading migrants are a lesser evil working on behalf of a greater evil
-JFK was good but not that good, though he was the last time a US president took a stand against jewry in more than one way

But then there's a line for some of us. I get it, we all have boundaries. Here are where many of us differ:

-Theological dogmas and histories
-Genetic history and lineages
-Spiritual matters concerning lineages
-9/11 (until recently I didn't realize how many people still believe in the official one for this)
-Racial organization of White Christians beyond the Churches
-Earth cosmology, space, the sun, the moon, the stars, the science of astronomy in its modern take
-Confusion on what a jew Edomite is versus a descendant of Israel
-Nuclear weapons and quantum physics
-Biological discussions on viruses versus exosomes and environmental toxins (germ vs terrain)
-Extremes of men who want to pray only versus men who want to act only in the face of evil

I'm sure there are more to that list, but the fact is, I'm sure in a few years time, the first list will grow while the second list will shrink. More truth keeps coming out, along with begetting more questions, this is a lifelong process. Ten years ago, what this community was online, and in-person at the meetups before the lie of game was thrown out, this list was very small. Most guys talked travel, hostel and flight logistics, numbers of girls in this city in this country etc, how much money they're making, how to dress in a certain way, very superficial topics that most men could agree to talk on, and many men set aside their differences because there was enough of a commonality to keep a connection going.

Who would have thought that one writer and PUA like Roosh would have galvanized the entire game community, which in itself is a product of a "Sunstein-esque" psyop, into accepting Christ and rejecting these modern blasphemies? The same old farts are pushing the Casanova stuff like Rollo and the leftovers from the Mystery/Strauss and Tyler Durden days are still trying to live like its 2005 and we can all see them for the ridiculousness and voided spirit of their purpose in life.

I really wish less of us were accusatory of those of us who do wish to discuss topics that are on the bottom list, infantile ridicule is not a tactic of truth-seekers.