Happenings in Hungary

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Fidesz - Hungary’s ruling party - introduced a Sovereignty Protection bill, to combat foreign-funded election interference. If passed, the new law would make accepting foreign funds, by politicians and parties standing for election, as well as by NGOs involved in electoral campaigns, punishable with prison. A new government body, the "Sovereignty Protection Office", will be established to investigate foreign meddling.
 
Viktor Orban recently commented on the likelihood of the EU pulling out of various financial investments/programs with Hungary. He's getting pressure to:

- allow refugee migration en masse
- liberalize government LGBTQ positions

This is really what much of western foreign policy is driven by: refugees (replacement) and rainbows (your own genetic destruction). Again, "it all makes sense once you realize they are trying to kill you."

We're even pushing it on dirt poor African countries. The Africans appear to have a recent crop of leaders that are more reluctant.
 
Aldebaran said:
Hungary is deeply, deeply compromised.

I know they have a lot of fanboys, but this adulation is well and truly misplaced.

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I wonder how much of that adulation comes from aggressive lobbying efforts? From an archived New York Times article:
Mr. Carlson himself has a family connection with the Hungarian leader — his father, Richard Carlson, is listed as a director of a Washington-based firm that has lobbied for Mr. Orban in the United States.

In 2019, the firm, Policy Impact Strategic Communications, disclosed in a lobbying filing that it “coordinated an interview of Minister Szijjarto on the Tucker Carlson show,” referring to Peter Szijjarto, Hungary’s minister of foreign affairs and trade.
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So, America aside, has "Orbanism" managed to move or interest any other country? What about Hungary's neighbors, who already have beautiful historic buildings (what Tucker always sells to American audiences)? It doesn't seem like it. What it does seem like is a warmed over, Zionist-friendly Putinism for those fearful of being associated with Russia.
 
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Aldebaran said:
Hungary is deeply, deeply compromised.

I know they have a lot of fanboys, but this adulation is well and truly misplaced.

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That's unfortunately standard MO of all European right wing parties: they've been conditioned to believe that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" in this case Isreal being an enemy of muslims is, supposedly, a friend to Christian Europeans, which couldn't be further from the truth since it's the west's affiliation with Israel that angers muslims above all else. That, and the fact that Israel's foreign policy, as well as jewish NGOs, are responsible for the massive influx of muslim migrants to Europe. But then again, it's not really that different from the ziocon politicians in the US.
 
Pointy Elbows said:
Viktor Orban recently commented on the likelihood of the EU pulling out of various financial investments/programs with Hungary. He's getting pressure to:

- allow refugee migration en masse
- liberalize government LGBTQ positions

This is really what much of western foreign policy is driven by: refugees (replacement) and rainbows (your own genetic destruction). Again, "it all makes sense once you realize they are trying to kill you."

We're even pushing it on dirt poor African countries. The Africans appear to have a recent crop of leaders that are more reluctant.
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I think the pressure on Hungary is down several notches now that the NGO empire of USAID has unraveled. That and Trump now running NATO and bossing Brussels.
 
Острог said:
Great opportunity for Hungary to simply say goodbye. The initial shock will be worth future sovereignty when EU goes under. Please God, make this hydra fall apart.
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The initial backlash from young people will be huge though. I could easily see a colour revolution going down, similar to what's currently going on in Serbia (although the reasons aren't the same).

It's an excellent opportunity for Orban to get overthrown. We'll see how things play out. I personally would love to see the smaller Christian nations like Hungary, Croatia and Slovakia leave and form some kind of alliance with the Serbs and Montenegrins.

But I don't have much faith in any of that truly working.

Edit: And the EU is actually setting a bunch of precedents that are more proof of double standards. If one country's veto rights can be revoked, then that makes the whole Catalonian independence excuse that Spain wouldn't let them join the EU look silly. The same applies to other regions that have shown the desire to secede.
 
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I heard that Hungary and the other Czech countries are supposed to some of the most atheist countries in Europe - maybe even more so that the Nordics. Is that changing under Orban?
 
Wutang said:
I heard that Hungary and the other Czech countries are supposed to some of the most atheist countries in Europe - maybe even more so that the Nordics. Is that changing under Orban?
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Good point. Yes, it's the Czech Republic where 40% are atheists. That's why I didn't list them. They're also Europe's porn capital.

Slovakia only has 7 mosques in the entire country. So they make an effort to reject Islam.
 
Droughtmeat said:
The initial backlash from young people will be huge though. I could easily see a colour revolution going down, similar to what's currently going on in Serbia (although the reasons aren't the same).

It's an excellent opportunity for Orban to get overthrown. We'll see how things play out. I personally would love to see the smaller Christian nations like Hungary, Croatia and Slovakia leave and form some kind of alliance with the Serbs and Montenegrins.

But I don't have much faith in any of that truly working.

Edit: And the EU is actually setting a bunch of precedents that are more proof of double standards. If one country's veto rights can be revoked, then that makes the whole Catalonian independence excuse that Spain wouldn't let them join the EU look silly. The same applies to other regions that have shown the desire to secede.
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To the bolded portion, Yugoslavia already broke up; you're not going to see an alliance between Serbia, Republika Srpska, Croatia, and Montenegro nor should Hungary get tied up with that tinderbox and those lasting blood feuds.

As for Slovakia, as long as Fico is around they seem like logical allies, but a lot of bad blood exists between Hungarians and Slovaks (especially from Slovaks during Magyarization) and if Fico gets ousted, he'll be replaced with some pro-EU stooge like the rest.

Much better relationship, historically at least, between Poland and Hungary, but their fanatical hatred for Russia has somewhat soured this.
 
BehindTheLines said:
To the bolded portion, Yugoslavia already broke up; you're not going to see an alliance between Serbia, Republika Srpska, Croatia, and Montenegro nor should Hungary get tied up with that tinderbox and those lasting blood feuds.

As for Slovakia, as long as Fico is around they seem like logical allies, but a lot of bad blood exists between Hungarians and Slovaks (especially from Slovaks during Magyarization) and if Fico gets ousted, he'll be replaced with some pro-EU stooge like the rest.

Much better relationship, historically at least, between Poland and Hungary, but their fanatical hatred for Russia has somewhat soured this.
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Yep, I agree 100% but that's exactly why a country like Hungary or any of the small countries leaving simply isn't feasible.

There are either century feuds between them, Russophobia or something else inherently making that kind of move impossible.

And, as we both said, these governments can easily be overthrown, if the EU deemed it necessary.
 
Droughtmeat said:
Good point. Yes, it's the Czech Republic where 40% are atheists. That's why I didn't list them. They're also Europe's porn capital.

Slovakia only has 7 mosques in the entire country. So they make an effort to reject Islam.
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RedLagoon said:
Chech can bare arms though.

en.m.wikipedia.org

History of Czech civilian firearms possession - Wikipedia

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Czechia trends libertarian, so that is good for us in some regards like the right to bear arms. But they are not rooted in Christian values. Still a better place to live than England or Germany right now.

Hungarians are a bit more conservative, but both countries are well known for their prolific porn production, sometimes in public places. Of course the sex industry is huge in Russia too so it's not the only indicator.

But all that stuff can be reversed easily if there's a will. What's much harder to reverse is flooding your country with millions of third world migrants. Compared to Western Europe, all of the Eastern EU countries are still doing pretty well in that regard.

Droughtmeat said:
Yep, I agree 100% but that's exactly why a country like Hungary or any of the small countries leaving simply isn't feasible.

There are either century feuds between them, Russophobia or something else inherently making that kind of move impossible.

And, as we both said, these governments can easily be overthrown, if the EU deemed it necessary.
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The only way it's going to be feasible for these small countries to resist globalist pressure is if they have significant external support. With Trump and Putin they have a chance. At least, it helps now that the US is not openly hostile to European nationalism.

The globalists will try to twist these countries' nationalist tendencies to pit them against each other and weaken them collectively. If they are to survive, they need to forgive each other and see who the real ((enemy)) is. All the bad blood between Hungarians and Slovaks for example is really no different than the Blacks in America demanding reparations.
 
analyst_green said:
The only way it's going to be feasible for these small countries to resist globalist pressure is if they have significant external support. With Trump and Putin they have a chance. At least, it helps now that the US is not openly hostile to European nationalism.

The globalists will try to twist these countries' nationalist tendencies to pit them against each other and weaken them collectively. If they are to survive, they need to forgive each other and see who the real ((enemy)) is. All the bad blood between Hungarians and Slovaks for example is really no different than the Blacks in America demanding reparations.
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Yes, they do, but Trump won't be in power 4 years from now. So who's gonna guarantee support then?

As for Russia, the likes of Slovakia and Hungary all worked his Russia before and aren't particularly fond of those times.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Russia isn't a reliable partner, but it's simply all a bit complicated.

And regarding the feuds, Croatia and Serbia have shown the ability to settle them temporarily. Thus, things could definitely work out for a couple of decades.
 
Caduceus said:
Trump is (possibly) sending the US cavalry to Hungary in Orban's hour of need !

tass.com

Trump considers moving US contingent from Germany to Hungary

At the moment, 35,000 US troops are on their service in Germany
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Excellent news for Hungary. Also, the soldiers have a nice impact economically and are pretty easy to integrate. They, like all Americans, have no interest in learning the language, but they're generally all good people. In addition, at least from what I saw in Germany, some start to be active in the community as basketball and football players and youth coaches. More American stores and restaurants start to open up too.

Far more important for Orban though is that it gives him protection from pretty much any potential nonsense the EU tries to pull off in Hungary.
 
Droughtmeat said:
Excellent news for Hungary. Also, the soldiers have a nice impact economically and are pretty easy to integrate. They, like all Americans, have no interest in learning the language, but they're generally all good people. In addition, at least from what I saw in Germany, some start to be active in the community as basketball and football players and youth coaches. More American stores and restaurants start to open up too.

Far more important for Orban though is that it gives him protection from pretty much any potential nonsense the EU tries to pull off in Hungary.
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Also good for the American soldiers. Hungary would be a lot more pleasant to live in than Germany. Plus a few of them may even end up with beautiful Hungarian wives. German women are horrible.
 
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