Iran-Israeli Conflict Thread

Iran is a theocracy who's whole existence and rhetoric is based around their belief in God/allah yet they refuse to name the "jew" in incendiary terms. It's always "the zionists" and "America."

Why not frame the debate in the religious terms they are so fond of? Why not appeal to Christians in name? Why not call (((them))) "dirty jews" who are "members of the synogogue of satan as quoted in Revelations verse 2:9 of your Holy Bible, who have been kicked out of 137 countries for a reason." Why not get me as an American Christian to root for them by stating things like, "We know that it is jews like Jared Kushner who are whispering the words of satan into President Trump's ear, Christians please unite with your muslim brothers against the evils of the international jew." Why not state, "America, which is a Christian nation, has been co-opted by jews who have driven a wedge between Christians and muslims who should be natural allies in the fight against talmudic satanism"?

You know, the internet exists, and apparently Iranians are high(ish) IQ with a rich history in literature and poetry, but they can't find one Iranian that can write a compelling argument against world jewry, always cloaking their veiled threats in terms of "Israel," "zionists," and "America"? What's with the kid gloves? Name the jew already. Keep it simple stupid, most Americans don't even know what the word "zionism" means.

Makes one think the billionaire ayatollahs are in on (((it))).

They don't cater to Americans or Israel, haven't you noticed that yet?

It's not 2014 anymore when naming the "jew" was edgy and I doubt Iran is worried about being edgy. They're more busy defending their nation and wiping the floor with the Zionists and going by social media that isn't Murican, Israel is losing face fast.
 
Iran is a theocracy who's whole existence and rhetoric is based around their belief in God/allah yet they refuse to name the "jew" in incendiary terms. It's always "the zionists" and "America."
Orthodox Jews claim that the greatest danger to Jews comes from actions of the Zionists and the state of Israel. It would be inaccurate for Iran to blame all 'Jews', instead of Zionists and Israel.

 
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Volatile and rising oil prices challenge the world economy, yet as a country the US will not suffer from 100 USD a barrel. Point in case.


They conveniently forget to mention how much crude oil the US is importing.
It's 2.2 million barrels per day more than it's exporting.
Now do this:
"If you say 'thank you for your attention to this matter' 100 times a day, no one will pay attention to what you say".
 
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Missile Wave 54 to Tel Aviv. There was been an attack every 90 minutes to Israel throughout the day.

Iran is using their Sejil-2 for this volley. Video below for aspiring rocket scientists









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Ok, so Trump's 4D-chess move is to initiate war with Iran in order to lose, so we can pull out of the Middle East and Israel/Bibi/Zionists command and control are wiped out. He gets two regime-changes for one. And if Israel goes nuclear, the whole world remains against them, Israel becomes a destroyed and failed state, loses control over US politics, the holocaust becomes a footnote, and Trump is the man responsible for breaking the power of Zionism? Am I getting this right?
 
Ok, so Trump's 4D-chess move is to initiate war with Iran in order to lose, so we can pull out of the Middle East and Israel/Bibi/Zionists command and control are wiped out. He gets two regime-changes for one. And if Israel goes nuclear, the whole world remains against them, Israel becomes a destroyed and failed state, loses control over US politics, the holocaust becomes a footnote, and Trump is the man responsible for breaking the power of Zionism? Am I getting this right?

Iran has the sympathy of the world as they are the victims from Zionist violence, the muzzie invasion of Europe isn't from Shia Iran.

Iran is not Iraq, they don't fool around. All that Trump's got is bravado which is what he is.

Russia and China are the winning parties here if it keeps on going on longer, Iran knows this no matter how many leaders they kill.

*Why would Iran even bother taking out Trump while he's doing it himself and the USA on a global scale following bibi's instructions.
 
They conveniently forget to mention how much crude oil the US is importing.
It's 2.2 million barrels per day more than it's exporting.

Now do this:
"If you say 'thank you for your attention to this matter' 100 times a day, no one will pay attention to what you say".
Not so fast Mr. Riddler.... Majority of our crude imports are from Canada.

We have refineries for heavy sour crude.

This is where Canada and now Venezuela can come in to substitute for Saudi and Iraqi imports.

Quick ai search of "can Canadian and Venezuelan crude replace middle eastern crude"

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As of 2024–2025 data, the U.S. imports a relatively small portion of its total oil from the Middle East, with roughly 300,000 to 400,000 barrels per day (b/d) arriving from major suppliers like Saudi Arabia and Iraq. While the U.S. is a net exporter, it still imports over 6 million b/d of crude (mostly from Canada) to meet specific refinery needs.

Key Middle East Sources: Data from 2024 shows Saudi Arabia leading in the region with roughly 273,000 b/d, followed by Iraq at roughly 198,000 b/d.

Total Imports: The Persian Gulf countries together accounted for just roughly 10% of total U.S. gross petroleum imports in 2023.
Context: While the US is a net exporter, it still imports foreign crude to meet specific refinery needs.

could technically replace its remaining Middle Eastern oil imports with a combination of Canadian and Venezuelan supplies, as both countries produce the heavy, sour crude that U.S. Gulf Coast refineries are specifically designed to process.
  • Volume Requirements: Middle Eastern imports currently account for a relatively small sliver of U.S. supply—roughly 300,000 to 500,000 barrels per day (b/d).
    • Venezuela could potentially increase production by 500,000 b/d in the short term, which alone could offset these imports.
    • Canada already provides over 4.7 million b/d (roughly 57% of all U.S. oil imports) and has recently expanded pipeline capacity (TMX) to move more volume.
 
Not so fast Mr. Riddler.... Majority of our crude imports are from Canada.

We have refineries for heavy sour crude.

This is where Canada and now Venezuela can come in to substitute for Saudi and Iraqi imports.

Quick ai search of "can Canadian and Venezuelan crude replace middle eastern crude"

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As of 2024–2025 data, the U.S. imports a relatively small portion of its total oil from the Middle East, with roughly 300,000 to 400,000 barrels per day (b/d) arriving from major suppliers like Saudi Arabia and Iraq. While the U.S. is a net exporter, it still imports over 6 million b/d of crude (mostly from Canada) to meet specific refinery needs.

Key Middle East Sources: Data from 2024 shows Saudi Arabia leading in the region with roughly 273,000 b/d, followed by Iraq at roughly 198,000 b/d.

Total Imports: The Persian Gulf countries together accounted for just roughly 10% of total U.S. gross petroleum imports in 2023.
Context: While the US is a net exporter, it still imports foreign crude to meet specific refinery needs.

could technically replace its remaining Middle Eastern oil imports with a combination of Canadian and Venezuelan supplies, as both countries produce the heavy, sour crude that U.S. Gulf Coast refineries are specifically designed to process.
  • Volume Requirements: Middle Eastern imports currently account for a relatively small sliver of U.S. supply—roughly 300,000 to 500,000 barrels per day (b/d).
    • Venezuela could potentially increase production by 500,000 b/d in the short term, which alone could offset these imports.
    • Canada already provides over 4.7 million b/d (roughly 57% of all U.S. oil imports) and has recently expanded pipeline capacity (TMX) to move more volume.
Yes, but that doesn't address my point.
I posted a graph in the previous page that shows that the US imports very little crude oil from the middle east (2% comes from the Straits of Hormuz, I don't know about the other 8%). But that's not the point.

The question to ask is not "can Canadian and Venezuelan crude replace middle eastern crude", but "are Canadian crude oil prices affected by the war" and the answer is yes, significantly.
 

U.S. intelligence has circulated to President Trump and to a small circle around him that Iran's late supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, had misgivings about his son replacing him, multiple sources familiar with the matter told CBS News.

The analysis showed the elder Khamenei was wary of his son, Ayatollah Mojtaba Khamenei, ever taking power because he was perceived as not very bright, and was viewed as unqualified to be leader, according to sources.
 
It's not 2014 anymore when naming the "jew" was edgy and I doubt Iran is worried about being edgy.

What are you talking about? Nobody of extreme wealth and political significance has named the jew. It's always cloaked in the word "Israel." You hear the word "jew" nowhere, not now, and not in 2024, not because it's "edgy," but because it's dangerous and because the elites are playing games with us normies that are beyond your comprehension.

But I suppose if/when Tehran gets a nuke dropped on their head they'll wish they catered more to Christian American normies on social media.

Orthodox Jews claim that the greatest danger to Jews comes from actions of the Zionists and the state of Israel. It would be inaccurate for Iran to blame all 'Jews', instead of Zionists and Israel.

Oh so now we're quoting jews who deny Christ? I only listen to Christians. I would never believe a jew dressed up like a woman saying he doesn't like jews... "It's a big jew club and jew ain't in it."
 
Iran calls out the use of the US Lucas drone, a copy of the Shahed, to carry out false flag attacks on regions which it wishes to drag into the war.



While visually very similar to each other, US-made LUCAS drone isn't a 1:1 copy of the Shahed - it's smaller and equipped with American tech like the starlink terminal. Its debris wouldn't pass as a Shahed.
 
Let's see if Tom is right



If you read the article, it still means only Iranian oil can pass because the Gulf States are still cooperating with US/Israel.

Nothing has changed.
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Houthis said the same thing during the Red Sea crisis, only to attack almost everything that moved including an Iranian cargo ship on occasion. So I wouldn't put much trust in their statements. Still, if they want to grant exemptions, trying to curry favor with countries like India, it's all the better for us and worse for them - cause the more holes there are in their "blockade", the lesser the burden for the world.
 
Trump has announced that countries have to make their own arrangements to secure passage for their oil tankers in the Straight of Hormuz. Any that do will be assisted by the US, but they have to actually show up. We'll see how many take that risk with their naval ships.





He's not wrong. The US is not dependent on the Gulf anymore. Same can't be said about other, especially Asian, countries, so if they want to have their supply lines fully restored, they'd better get off their asses and secure them themselves. Sure, securing the SoH is in our own interest and we should do it, but escorting foreign ships isn't. Now, if they would be willing to move their businesses Stateside and reflag their ships we would be obliged to protect them, but if they don't then it's not really our problem. We've already seen something like this during the Red Sea crisis - France wanted to keep CMA CGM ships going through, so they contributed their warships to the EU operation Aspides and escorted them themselves.
 
He's not wrong. The US is not dependent on the Gulf anymore. Same can't be said about other, especially Asian, countries, so if they want to have their supply lines fully restored, they'd better get off their asses and secure them themselves. Sure, securing the SoH is in our own interest and we should do it, but escorting foreign ships isn't. Now, if they would be willing to move their businesses Stateside and reflag their ships we would be obliged to protect them, but if they don't then it's not really our problem. We've already seen something like this during the Red Sea crisis - France wanted to keep CMA CGM ships going through, so they contributed their ships to the EU operation Aspides and escorted them themselves.

Oil is a fungible commodity, so if it becomes scarce in say, Japan, US oil prices will reflect that. The US might not run out of oil, but the economy will suffer from much higher oil prices.
 
Oil is a fungible commodity, so if it becomes scarce in say, Japan, US oil prices will reflect that. The US might not run out of oil, but the economy will suffer from much higher oil prices.

We're facing increasing prices, they could experience an actual shortage if this goes long enough to exhaust their reserves. We're not in the same boat. So like i said, securing the strait itself is our business (to alleviate the pressure), but protecting each and every foreign ship isn't.
 
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