Iran-Israeli Conflict Thread

They double tapped the all girls school which means they tomahawk the school twice 45 minutes apart. The offspring of the staff at nearby military compound likely attends this school. So their objective was to kill some of the Military staff by drawing them into the school by bombing their offspring 1st - and then wait 45 minutes for rescue and their parents to go to the school to search for their lost loved ones and then bomb them.

Just the act of bombing twice in the same location should leave you little doubt that this was not an accident.

Double Tap is a well documented strategy that Israel deployed in Gaza and that Americans are now adopting at the open of this "war".


Americans has always been ordered to behaved this way during war and officials will come up with any deception so their normies can continue to cheer on like your belief that this operation is there to free the Iranians. Why do you think the Veteran suicide rate is high?

I suggest you re-read and reflect upon your responses to @Ember showing you evidence that they can clearly take care of themselves through that public demonstration with all this in mind.

As the war drags on and classified docs become unclassified, we'll find out more nuances and excuses but the pattern is clear. They're not doing it for their "freedom".





No Im not gonna automatically assume a quick double tap means it was intentional, its just happened a few days ago I will follow the story and the truth will come out, if its found out it was intentional then I will accept that and I wont be happy about that.

Theres lots of informations, disinformation, real videos, AI videos etc so not very clear to me yet what exactly happened.

No offense but that second video in black and white witj the supposedly war vets, those guys look like the Beatles, hippies 😆
 
Things like this have been going on steadily for at least 85 years since WW2, but there is not general awareness of them and they are also considered fog of war and/or unavoidable civilian casualties.

About 10 years ago, the US Army knowingly ravaged a Doctors Without Borders hospital in Kunduz, Afghanistan for half a day, killing 40 I think, and then they came back twice with tanks during the "investigation" in the days that followed and knocked it down some more.

I remember reading about it at the time. Not sure what exactly they're saying now, but here's the wiki on it.

It might have been its not off the table, we all know people right here in America who serve in the military and they would never do those things so its not easy for me to just automatically accept that its true straight away, I need to be properly convinced first, I have people in my church who serve in the military, are these loan wolf actions inside the US military the general behaviour and standards, I dont think so
 
Perhaps as well, that people in Iran didn't expect the US to drop several cruise missile strikes on their schools, let alone double tap them.
Well building schools connected to military compounds, while commonly done, doesn't mean that the Intel the US acted in told them it was a school.

Are you suffesing the US wouldn knowingly hit a school?
No Im not gonna automatically assume a quick double tap means it was intentional, its just happened a few days ago I will follow the story and the truth will come out, if its found out it was intentional then I will accept that and I wont be happy about that.

Theres lots of informations, disinformation, real videos, AI videos etc so not very clear to me yet what exactly happened.

No offense but that second video in black and white witj the supposedly war vets, those guys look like the Beatles, hippies 😆
Of course it wasn't intentional to kill kids at a school.

This is just a turd world anti American take.

Bad Intel, not having boots on the ground to confirm, but it's safe to say the strike package used data assuming it was a valid target and not civilian infrastructure and was connected to military infrastructure.

We don't target schools with kids deliberately. I can speak first hand on this... And my comment about striking university in a previous post is not apple to apples here on the comparison.
 
Well building schools connected to military compounds, while commonly done, doesn't mean that the Intel the US acted in told them it was a school.

Are you suffesing the US wouldn knowingly hit a school?

Of course it wasn't intentional to kill kids at a school.

This is just a turd world anti American take.

Bad Intel, not having boots on the ground to confirm, but it's safe to say the strike package used data assuming it was a valid target and not civilian infrastructure and was connected to military infrastructure.

We don't target schools with kids deliberately. I can speak first hand on this... And my comment about striking university in a previous post is not apple to apples here on the comparison.
Its not acceptable in American culture to do this or to accept this, theres ZERO motive for USA to intentionally do this, especially on day 1, thats why Im hesitant to automatically accept what Im hearing, I need to be convinced and an investigation needs to be done, we are not in Iran we are here, theres no way we can know for sure that what just happened was an intentional act
 
Its not acceptable in American culture to do this or to accept this, theres ZERO motive for USA to intentionally do this, especially on day 1, thats why Im hesitant to automatically accept what Im hearing, I need to be convinced and an investigation needs to be done, we are not in Iran we are here, theres no way we can know for sure that what just happened was an intentional act
That's exactly the point. We don't knowingly target occupied schools during day 1 strikes.

There's an order of operations for strikes... And school building ain't on there.

We aren't Hamas shooting up disco parties here
 
That's exactly the point. We don't knowingly target occupied schools during day 1 strikes.

There's an order of operations for strikes... And school building ain't on there.

We aren't Hamas shooting up disco parties here
It would actually be very negative for US to intentionally do this, theres no gain, the whole country and western world wouldnt give them their support, before the war they had support, everyone was kind of cheering that the women were gonna be freed and the protestors were gaoona be saved, they had support, then day 1 they bomb a girls school intentionally? Makes no sense to me nothing was gained by doing that
 

It might fly over a few heads here and there, but this is the biggest confirmation you are yet going to get that this is about taking control of the Strait of Hormuz (further down the line) and containing/ setting back China by years through torpedoing their long term strategy of creating secure and sanction proof hydrocarbon lifelines over both land and sea lanes.

Taking over Kharg Island will sling a big fat noose over the Mullahs neck, bankrupt the IRGC to the core, create the necessary leverage to impose regime-restructuring/ a change of course, and get a first class seat right on top of the oil valve running to China - which means no more discount oil and a swing at the valve whenever the CCP dinos do something silly.

Washington is unrivaled at playing this game.

 
Iranian embassy building in Washington DC empty for over 45 years








US embassy building in Tehran




The 1979 US Embassy Siege and hostage taking of 66 US diplomats and citizens was the beginning of over 45 years of anti-American policies by the ayatollahs, which in hindsight has brought them nothing but misery. These people could have set up an Islamic Twelver theology without all the BS and exist as an unaligned state, or weakly circling in DC's orbit like many other Israeli adversaries do and did, Qatar, Saudi and Turkey are just a few exceptions.

It's a weird bunch. The Karbala inspired martyr complex and eschatological dimensions are really strong in the hardline Twelver Shia ideology. Many of them wish to die in battle which is also why the US military will never set foot on Mainland Iranian territory, the IRGC and religious militias will literally fight to the death, better to soft coup them from within.

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It would be a strawman argument if I was making a distorted version of your argument. Good thing we have a post linked to bearing your name where you said exactly that before you had to walk it back.
IIMT' post reflects, knowingly or unknowingly, an increasingly popular narrative pushed in online American White nationalist circles. In essence it's an attempt to whitewash the Iranians and turn them into long-lost White brethren, indo-European kinfolk who are worthy of your support on that ground alone. In that sense the current Iran war become an extension of the previous European fight against Jewry, and that angle is much stronger than just 'brown people in the desert'.

This entire story reminds me of Prester John, the mythical Medieval Christian King who was supposedly ruling a large Empire in India or Ethiopia. The increasingly weakened European Kings would send out explorers and envoys looking for Prester John, hoping for an alliance to counter the growing Islamic power in Europe/the Middle East. Prester John was never found because Prester John's Empire didn't exist. This feels similar, calling the Iranian clerical leadership Greeks with a turban is an absurd take, the IR is a hostile entity, the Iranians are genetically non-White, and the country is based on an Arabic religion and ideology. You can symphatisize and/or support their struggle, thinking they are White kin is really stupid.
 
Iran (or CNN) is trolling Trump, as they allegedly consider allowing tankers that the oil is traded in Chinese yuan to pass the Strait.




Former Secretary of Defense Mark Esper: The Iranians have more endurance than the US.




Slavyangrad: The deployment of the Marines could be the biggest military debacle since the D-Day landing massacre.




Trump is still claiming the Iranians have been completely defeated and want a deal. It's as if he is trying to talk it into reality.

 
So are they gonna refurbishe those MD11s or not? Seems like a wasted opportunity to me (like I said before somewhere).


What is the Iran angle, please? Are you saying they should all be converted for use as tankers?
 
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No one likes Trump in Europa no one wants to fight Israel's war, this is from someone who speaks several languages and reading their comment sections.

After the Greenland debacle the EU (citizens) are slowly moving towards Russia.

Big Don, you're just that.

@Ember they (UPS) decommissioned all these MD11s because of the horrible crash in Louisville, the US Army should've picked them all up and relined them as fuelers like they did with the DC10 which are being used as fire bombers to fight forest fires.
 
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