Andrew Wilson

[GoodShepherd]

Andrew Wilson is an Orthodox Christian and a great debator, he appears on the whatever podcast hosted by Brian Atlas where group in person debates are held, he also has his own debate channel on youtube called the Crucible, check out his work, very informed and well spoken, a breathe of fresh air.



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[homersheineken]

He's had issues lately with credibility.



This was posted in the Destruction of Women thread and my reply:

Wow I used to really enjoy watching Andrew dismantle hoes and feminists for their ideals, but this one clip will destroy most the work he's done.

He used to be calm, logical, debatable and respectfully let the other person state their view before destroying them.

Or he'd use the Socratic method and allow them to tangle themselves into mental gymnastics where their contradicting pre-programmed NPC/MSM beliefs would be revealed, shattering their point.

But this feminine and overly emotional response shows he wasn't so much about the movement of men's rights, but about his ego and mental superiority. The blatant hypocricy is bad enough, but hiding it and then raging when discovered shows immaturity and this lack of control completely defeats the stoic intellectual moralist philophosy persona he was trying to portray.

Sad.

 

[Northumber]

He's had issues lately with credibility.



This was posted in the Destruction of Women thread and my reply:

I'm beginning to think this whole mode of "i want to become an influencer", or "I want to become a star", or "I want to build a media platform" is badly wrong headed.

I find it difficult to listen to any of them anymore. It's all gross and fake. I no longer care about who is owning who. I think they should all go away and do something useful with their lives.

 

[GoodShepherd]

He's had issues lately with credibility.



This was posted in the Destruction of Women thread and my reply:

His wife was on Joe Rogan the other day and she speaks openly about her previous marriage, over 1 million views in 12 days, what exactly is the problem? He isnt encouraging divorce he is speaking against it.

 

[GoodShepherd]

I'm beginning to think this whole mode of "i want to become an influencer", or "I want to become a star", or "I want to build a media platform" is badly wrong headed.

I find it difficult to listen to any of them anymore. It's all gross and fake. I no longer care about who is owning who. I think they should all go away and do something useful with their lives.

Andrew was on Joe Rogan recently and shared how and why he got into debates, he worked with robotics for a company and during the lockdowns they were at home and he started actually replying and pushing back on all this nonsense and radical ideas that has been pushed on western culture now that he was home and challenged these ideas.

 

[Northumber]

Andrew was on Joe Rogan recently and shared how and why he got into debates, he worked with robotics for a company and during the lockdowns they were at home and he started actually replying and pushing back on all this nonsense and radical ideas that has been pushed on western culture now that he was home and challenged these ideas.

I'll listen to it.

My critique is broader than just Andrew I just happened to reply here because it gets a little tiring seeing the same thing over and over again.

 

[homersheineken]

His wife was on Joe Rogan the other day and she speaks openly about her previous marriage, over 1 million views in 12 days, what exactly is the problem? He isnt encouraging divorce he is speaking against it.

Well the fact that she's had multiple marriages and multiple baby daddies speaks directly against his principles. But that wasn't my critique of him.

This feminine and overly emotional response shows he wasn't so much about the movement of men's rights, but about his ego and mental superiority. The blatant hypocricy is bad enough, but hiding it and then raging when discovered shows immaturity and this lack of control completely defeats the stoic intellectual moralist philophosy persona he was trying to portray.

 

[PurpleUrkel]

This feminine and overly emotional response shows he wasn't so much about the movement of men's rights, but about his ego and mental superiority.

I have to agree with this, though I think he just slipped up and got caught off guard a bit too. Usually he's pretty solid on that front. But he is human, and I can see how going from anonymous zero to public hero in a few short years could be challenging.

The blatant hypocricy is bad enough, but hiding it and then raging when discovered shows immaturity and this lack of control completely defeats the stoic intellectual moralist philophosy persona he was trying to portray.

To be fair, recently, on Patrick Bet-David's podcast, he has been more open about why he was so sensitive about contrarian feminists calling out his wife and family instead of debating his ideas. Andrew and his wife suffered an unexpected tragic loss of her 10 year-old boy in a car accident (his step-son was staying the night with a friend and went for a "ride" with his friends 12 year-old older brother who crashed the car into a tree) whom he raised and considered his own. He said something to the effect of, "hearing the death curdling scream of a mother who has lost a child will forever change you."



So maybe we should be a little more charitable in our response to him as he does seem to be out there fighting the good fight to the best of his ability.

In this next clip he talks about how he got into the podcasting space and talks about his parents blended marriage (his mom had two previous kids before marrying his dad who brought 3 of his own to the marriage), and says something to the effect that "most people don't have one original thought, they've been programmed."

 

[Blade Runner]

I'm beginning to think this whole mode of "i want to become an influencer", or "I want to become a star", or "I want to build a media platform" is badly wrong headed.

I find it difficult to listen to any of them anymore. It's all gross and fake. I no longer care about who is owning who. I think they should all go away and do something useful with their lives.

It's not all that common. I've talked at length about ego and click-ism which is just part of the job. It's the case for financial experts who turn to social media and influencing careers, which are largely internet based these days as well. Just part of the game. Buyer beware.

Off to Akathist!

 

[FrancisK]

I'm beginning to think this whole mode of "i want to become an influencer", or "I want to become a star", or "I want to build a media platform" is badly wrong headed.

I find it difficult to listen to any of them anymore. It's all gross and fake. I no longer care about who is owning who. I think they should all go away and do something useful with their lives.

You never should have listened to them in the first place brother. Take your guidance from actual men in your life who care about your well being, not these attention whores who have a vested personal interest in your attention and will say/do anything for it with no shame.