The China Thread

Talent? Stolen tech isn't talent. The massive exodus of Chinese-American "talent" to China will probably be met with a great big "Good Riddance". Probably replaced with Japanese, Taiwanese, Koreans, etc. They may not have the quantity, but they're still preferable to to CCP's little slaves.

Maybe unlike a full-time wumao like you, some people actually have a life to live?

You're posting at 4am EST from an India-adjacent time zone, probably never been to Silicon Valley, and never have posted any original or interesting material reflecting a higher than room temperature IQ.
 
This is so obviously the Jew World Order reverse psyoping because The Global Noticing has gained so much traction. Complete "Thoust doth protest too much" mask off moment. Only a clown or a jew plant would believe and/or try to push the narrative that Xi and Putin aren't controlled by jews.

Nice try Lil Commie Coop :ROFLMAO:

You know better than this as I've schooled you on this (((subject))) many times before, "and yet she persists."

From July 7th, 2025:
PurpleUrkel said:
Anywhere there are banks and money there are jews controlling them. Are there banks in China?


Your irrefutable proof that Jews control China is that there are banks in China? lol.
 
@Cooper
@Eagle3
@LaAguilaNegra
@PurpleUrkel

As surprising as it may sound to You, there are other members of this forum who visit this thread to learn something about China, not to read through Your personal quarrels.

never have posted any original or interesting material reflecting a higher than room temperature IQ.
Maybe unlike a full-time wumao like you,
This rather mundane truth is apparantly enraging the CCP simps
Only a clown or a jew plant would believe and/or try to push the narrative that Xi and Putin aren't controlled by jews. Nice try Lil Commie Coop

If You can't have a normal conversation, without insulting each other, You won't have any - I'm locking You out of this thread for a day (to begin with). Use this time to cool down and rethink Your posting strategy.
 
An illegal Chinese biolab was discovered in Las Vegas, Nevada. This is a different biolab from the Chang run biolab that was discovered in Reedley, California in 2023. In the lab samples of ebola, malaria and other diseases were found. Several Chinese were taken into custody.





Well Well Well. Would you look at that. Turns out it was Mossad!

I'm also not sure I would be rooting for this witch hunt from the pov of Americans. You guys don't have a great track record given you weren't able to successfully prosecute Gang Chen, Anming Hu, and Xiaoxing Xi and so forth.

Would be a shame if you scare off the rest of the Asian Diaspora into leaving and they're not gonna rely on you being able to tell the difference.




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China's EV sector boom is a de facto government ploy to take over market share abroad. This is why its EV companies get subsidized to the max, the sector's financial advantage already builds on China's low labor costs and lack of environmental policies. China is literally trying to flood foreign markets with cheap and low quality vehicles even when there is little demand.

Never really understood the reasoning behind, what's the point of doing this? Yet the facts are the facts, there are currently tens of thousands brand new Chinese EVs catching dust on Australian parking lots due to surplus manufacturing, similar scenes exist in China. The Changs are producing for a market that doesn't exist, it's literally about pumping out cars. Set-up is indeed very similar to the Chinese real estate market and is now experiencing a similar blow off top.




China's EV sector is in bad shape, must like it's wider economy. Or maybe the Changs just realized that building cars to let them rot on parking lots is ultimately not a winning strategy and now the bubble must be deflated.



 
Shenzhen's air quality has always benefitted from being next to the ocean, but many Chinese cities still have some of the worst air pollution in the world despite increased use of EV's.

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It'll take awhile for the overall AQ to improve after aggressively using factories. Not to mention Beijing has some nasty sandstorms. BJ used to hit 500+ which is insane.

The turning point when AQ started to improve was 2013.
In 2013, you would get roughly 176 days of good AQ and then in 2023 - you got 286 good AQ?
 
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China's EV sector is in bad shape, must like it's wider economy. Or maybe the Changs just realized that building cars to let them rot on parking lots is ultimately not a winning strategy.





I like how you cope yourself into looking at only the past couple months. Were you that proud of this news that you decided to repost this from pages ago?

 
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I like how you cope yourself into looking at only the past couple months.


For undisclosed and unstated reason the CCP hydra with its many heads gets really upset whenever the crumbling Chinese EV sector gets mentioned in any setting that doesn't limit itself to flowery language, manufactured graphs and over the top praises. It's really weird, just check the comments on any EV mention on Twitter for example, wumaos immediately assemble in great numbers to harass, brigade and out-shout the initial message in the comment section. Happens every single time.

A month on month 20 percent decrease in output and cumulative loss of 60 billion USD on the stockmarket is nothing short of a cave-in. Still haven't figured out what's with all the sentitivities regarding Chinese junk EVs and it's collapsing industry though, Western travel agencies should start considering including that issue into their blacklist of sensitive and not to mention topics whilst visiting China. From here on those are Taiwan, Tibet, Xinjiang genocide, Falun Gong, Xi's purges, HK protests, any moderate comments about Takaichi, Tiananmen Massacre and China's shit-tier EVs and crumbling EV industry.



 
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For undisclosed and unstated reason the CCP hydra with Western travel agencies should start considering including that issue into their blacklist of sensitive and not to mention topics whilst visiting China. From here on those are Taiwan, Tibet, Xinjiang genocide, Falun Gong, Xi's purges, HK protests, any moderate comments about Takaichi, Tiananmen Massacre and China's shit-tier EVs and crumbling EV industry.
The three T's and EV's!
 
For undisclosed and unstated reason the CCP hydra with its many heads gets really upset whenever the crumbling Chinese EV sector gets mentioned in any setting that doesn't limit itself to flowery language, manufactured graphs and over the top praises. It's really weird, just check the comments on any EV mention on Twitter for example, wumaos immediately assemble in great numbers to harass, brigade and out-shout the initial message in the comment section. Happens every single time.

A month on month 20 percent decrease in output and cumulative loss of 60 billion USD on the stockmarket is nothing short of a cave-in. Still haven't figured out what's with all the sentitivities regarding Chinese junk EVs and it's collapsing industry though, Western travel agencies should start considering including that issue into their blacklist of sensitive and not to mention topics whilst visiting China. From here on those are Taiwan, Tibet, Xinjiang genocide, Falun Gong, Xi's purges, HK protests, any moderate comments about Takaichi, Tiananmen Massacre and China's shit-tier EVs and crumbling EV industry.






BYD's market cap is $124 billion, about the same as last year, your sources are not serious.

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If I wanted to engage in lowbrow anti-China propaganda, I would stick with the Sterzel goyslop and the usual clichés from 2010, and carefully steer away from any mention of China's remarkable and unprecedented industrial success in the auto industry. Muh Uyghur holocaust!!!

BYD's market cap is actually very undervalued relative to their sales, growth pattern and global tech leadership position.

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Note that BYD's market cap has grown by 15% since the publishing of this recent chart.
 
It'll take awhile for the overall AQ to improve after aggressively using factories. Not to mention Beijing has some nasty sandstorms. BJ used to hit 500+ which is insane.

The turning point when AQ started to improve was 2013.
In 2013, you would get roughly 176 days of good AQ and then in 2023 - you got 286 good AQ?
The first big news I heard about Xi shutting down factories in order to reduce air pollution around Beijing was in August 2015 in the lead-up to the CCP's big event in Sept. 3, 2015, where Xi wanted clear blue skies around Beijing, which he achieved in order to provide a pleasant atmosphere for his announcements (increase to 2 child policy) and important guests, such as Putin, Lukashenko & son, Kim, etc.

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I'm all for improved air quality, but it was achieved via arbitrary and authoritarian dictates when there were already strict rules in place for pollution outputs. Everyone was shut down for six weeks, and even the factories that were doing everything correctly were closed because a system so corrupt can't be trusted from above or below.

Xi could not allow any emissions producing factories in the entirety of the greater Beijing metro area to remain open for nearly two months in order to guarantee blue skies for his big day.

It's nice to have a govt that can get things done, but it sucks if your 100% rules-following, zero-emissions factory is put out of business because the other guy can't be trusted not to bribe his way out of a jam and create some PM 2.5 that embarrasses the great leader.

 
The first big news I heard about Xi shutting down factories in order to reduce air pollution around Beijing was in August 2015 in the lead-up to the CCP's big event in Sept. 3, 2015, where Xi wanted clear blue skies around Beijing, which he achieved in order to provide a pleasant atmosphere for his announcements (increase to 2 child policy) and important guests, such as Putin, Lukashenko & son, Kim, etc.

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I'm all for improved air quality, but it was achieved via arbitrary and authoritarian dictates when there were already strict rules in place for pollution outputs. Everyone was shut down for six weeks, and even the factories that were doing everything correctly were closed because a system so corrupt can't be trusted from above or below.

Xi could not allow any emissions producing factories in the entirety of the greater Beijing metro area to remain open for nearly two months in order to guarantee blue skies for his big day.

It's nice to have a govt that can get things done, but it sucks if your 100% rules-following, zero-emissions factory is put out of business because the other guy can't be trusted not to bribe his way out of a jam and create some PM 2.5 that embarrasses the great leader.




We live in countries where the deep state who runs the government deliberately pollutes the skies with toxic compounds to poison their populations, and here you are, criticizing a government halfway around the world that does its best to reduce their air pollution in a country that produces nearly one third of the entire global industrial output?

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We live in countries where the deep state who runs the government deliberately pollutes the skies with toxic compounds to poison their populations, and here you are, criticizing a government halfway around the world that does its best to reduce their air pollution in a country that produces nearly one third of the entire global industrial output?

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It's an interesting comparison. I think both critiques are valid.

Maybe I've mentioned this before, but there are no chemtrails in China, nor even the rare contrails.

There is a chemtrails thread.
 
Another example of something that's been happening with some regularity, the CCP putting pressure on dissidents outside the country by persecuting their relatives in China.

China’s Global Censorship Campaign​

Beijing targets the father of a Hong Kong dissident in the U.S.​

The Editorial Board
Feb. 11, 2026 5:28 pm ET

China’s Communist Party doesn’t settle for controlling its own people. It also seeks to silence, and punish, critics abroad. The latest example is Wednesday’s guilty verdict against the father of a prominent Hong Kong dissident-in-exile in the U.S.

Beijing’s target is Anna Kwok, age 29, the executive director of the Washington-based Hong Kong Democracy Council. In 2023 Hong Kong announced a bounty of HK$1 million (nearly $128,000) on Ms. Kwok. When that failed to silence her, authorities went after her family in Hong Kong.

Police arrested her 68-year-old father, Kwok Yin-sang, last spring after he sought to terminate a life and personal-injury insurance policy he had paid for decades. Authorities claimed that because Ms. Kwok was listed as the beneficiary, her father had attempted to handle the funds of an “absconder” in violation of the Safeguarding National Security Ordinance.

Mr. Kwok now faces up to seven years in prison, and during the trial authorities forbade him from talking to his daughter as a condition of bail. Police also arrested Ms. Kwok’s brother last year, though they released him and haven’t filed charges against him.

Mr. Kwok’s case is the first time Hong Kong has prosecuted a family member of an exiled dissident, but it won’t be the last. Ms. Kwok cites the Chinese Communist Party’s “longstanding tactic of weaponizing guilt against people. . . . They take your family hostage and make you feel like you’re the cause for other people’s pain and suffering. They use it to make you think you should stop what you’re doing.”

Ms. Kwok has been pushing for American lawmakers to pass legislation concerning three U.S.-based Hong Kong Economic and Trade Offices. The city uses them to promote business and trade, but Ms. Kwok says they’ve become a “gateway to make transnational repression possible on American soil.”

The U.S. had allowed these diplomatic outposts on the premise that Hong Kong enjoyed a high degree of autonomy from mainland China, but that’s no longer true. The Hong Kong courts are de facto subsidiaries of the Communist Party. The legislation would allow the Secretary of State to shut down these Hong Kong trade offices.

The guilty verdict for Ms. Kwok’s father comes days after Hong Kong sentenced 78-year-old publisher Jimmy Lai to 20 years in prison. The bogus case against Mr. Kwok is another reminder that even the most routine financial activities can be dangerous in Hong Kong if Beijing targets you.

 
Another example of something that's been happening with some regularity, the CCP putting pressure on dissidents outside the country by persecuting their relatives in China.

China’s Global Censorship Campaign​

Beijing targets the father of a Hong Kong dissident in the U.S.​

The Editorial Board
Feb. 11, 2026 5:28 pm ET




Yup. Anna was one of the organizers of the rioters during the 2016 HK Protests. Unfortunately, because the US are unable to take care of their Color Revolutionaries like they used with Chai Ling (Tiananmen Square). She had to ask her father for money to fund her overseas lifestyle in Washington DC which he attempted to withdraw from her Insurance and not his which is considered fraud.

However, he hasn't been sentenced yet - so we'll find out Late Feb but it could be considered a technical offense so he could face an order to do community service or 14 days in prison. Kinda jumping the gun a bit for a global newspaper but I guess WSJ wanted to connect this with Jimmy Lai since he has just been sentenced.


Speaking of which, Jimmy Lai has finally been officially been sentenced to 20 years for being a mastermind of the 2016 HK Riots that Anna was involved in.

Mr Fong here reviews some of the acts committed by the rioters in collaboration with US NED as well as media which shows more detail and commentary than the video from my original post about the HK Protests.
  • 2:20 - Jimmy Lai in a public press conference justifies his acts in sharing values with the US in the context of the cold war. He suggests to use nuclear weapons against China. In my old post - on the youtube video highlighting the HK Riots, in Taiwan News Outlet, he publicly begged for the CIA to give him more support.
  • 5:11 - 8:58 Mr Fong reviews Western newspaper white washing Jimmy Lai's acts
  • 9:00: He starts going over other acts of violence that the Rioters committed during the 2016 riots.
    • starting off with a 57 year old man being lit on fire
    • Trashes a Chinese newspaper outlet office
    • HK Lego Building (Legistrative) being trashed (Which Steve Bannon bragged about with Epstein)
    • Rioters trash a restaurant & bakery owned by a local chain
    • A Police Officer gets mobbed and beat up by the rioters
    • Barricading a street harassing HK Locals
  • 14:00 He compares the actual incidents with Media Narratives.
  • 18:30 Reflection on Jimmy's sentence. The Rioters that Jimmy Lai enabled really had the potential to destroy HK. Thankfully HKPF was on top of it and we recover from this mess.

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The first big news I heard about Xi shutting down factories in order to reduce air pollution around Beijing was in August 2015 in the lead-up to the CCP's big event in Sept. 3, 2015, where Xi wanted clear blue skies around Beijing, which he achieved in order to provide a pleasant atmosphere for his announcements (increase to 2 child policy) and important guests, such as Putin, Lukashenko & son, Kim, etc.

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I'm all for improved air quality, but it was achieved via arbitrary and authoritarian dictates when there were already strict rules in place for pollution outputs. Everyone was shut down for six weeks, and even the factories that were doing everything correctly were closed because a system so corrupt can't be trusted from above or below.

Xi could not allow any emissions producing factories in the entirety of the greater Beijing metro area to remain open for nearly two months in order to guarantee blue skies for his big day.

It's nice to have a govt that can get things done, but it sucks if your 100% rules-following, zero-emissions factory is put out of business because the other guy can't be trusted not to bribe his way out of a jam and create some PM 2.5 that embarrasses the great leader.



You say it's arbitrary but actually the PRC had pollution targets starting from their 11th Five Year Plan in 2006. These are announced publicly then lower level gov't starts making plans to figure out how to eliminate pollution. By your acknowledgement, Beijing started seeing better results in 2013. These are easy to look up through Google. You can even track their progress if you want to be anal about it.

I'm surprised that you claim after living quite some time (how many years did you say you lived in GZ?) in China don't even know about these Five Year Plans.

I know a few HFs that base their investment strategies on these FYP.


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You say it's arbitrary but actually the PRC had pollution targets starting from their 11th Five Year Plan in 2006. These are announced publicly then lower level gov't starts making plans to figure out how to eliminate pollution. I guess we started seeing results in 2013. These are easy to look up through Google. You can even track their progress.

I'm surprised that you claim after living quite some time (how many years did you say you lived in GZ?) in China don't even know about these Five Year Plans.

I know a few HFs that base their investment strategies on these FYP.


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As I wrote clearly, the factory closures were arbitrary and total, without regard for those which had met the emissions standards.
 
As I wrote clearly, the factory closures were arbitrary and total, without regard for those which had met the emissions standards.
The first big news I heard about Xi shutting down factories in order to reduce air pollution around Beijing was in August 2015 in the lead-up to the CCP's big event in Sept. 3, 2015, where Xi wanted clear blue skies around Beijing, which he achieved in order to provide a pleasant atmosphere for his announcements (increase to 2 child policy) and important guests, such as Putin, Lukashenko & son, Kim, etc.


I'm all for improved air quality, but it was achieved via arbitrary and authoritarian dictates when there were already strict rules in place for pollution outputs. Everyone was shut down for six weeks, and even the factories that were doing everything correctly were closed because a system so corrupt can't be trusted from above or below.

Xi could not allow any emissions producing factories in the entirety of the greater Beijing metro area to remain open for nearly two months in order to guarantee blue skies for his big day.

It's nice to have a govt that can get things done, but it sucks if your 100% rules-following, zero-emissions factory is put out of business because the other guy can't be trusted not to bribe his way out of a jam and create some PM 2.5 that embarrasses the great leader.


None of the links you provided had anything to do with Pollution cutting and were just about Military Parades in 2015 and I gave you evidence that Pollution reduction targets was announced in previous FYP as early as 2006.

You gave no indication that you were aware of these FYP so it seems like the onus is on you for not paying attention to important developments especially as a factory owner or manager? that you claim to be.
 
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