Anti-ICE Riots Thread

I’m being to think (((👃))) doesn’t care about keeping its empire. It wants to screw over white people so bad it will ride this game to zero. Even if it means them getting thrown out and having to regroup in Argentina or something.
(((They))) are the US government and they're not going to self deport. Once a giant octopus has its eight tentacles wrapped around you it ain't letting go. The concerning issue is the military tech They have access to and control over (like the sonic weapon used in Venezuela). The tech is normies are privy to is nothing compared to what is operating behind the scenes.

From 2024 and 2025:
(((They))) have access to AI and mechanical technology that would make your head spin. If poor normies have access to phones that are 20 times more powerful than the NASA IBM computers of the 1960's, what do you think trillionaire (((elites))) have possession of today behind closed doors?
With new developments in AI and surveillance technology elites can now get to anyone, anywhere, anytime (which is why it is important to stay off their radar) and (((they))) own every inch of the internet, media, and the world's communication networks.
... the jews control 90% of global media and are the primary drivers of AI and deep fake technology one can see that it is time for ALL world leaders to start aggressively naming the jew, or be labeled as "one of (((them)))."

We are simply in a good versus evil reality. The Synagogue of Satan has the upper hand right now but God will ultimately prevail.

Jonathan Ross' Give Send Go is up to $150K.
They should up it to a one million. He's gonna' need it
 
I have still been processing why exactly this escalation and the reaction to it has made me so uneasy. I think what I can't reconcile is this: its seems more or less consensus on this site that Trump is a corrupt Zionist and that the federal government is deeply compromised and not directed to work in favor of the American people (which I largely agree with although I think Trump in his boomer way is trying to help the country).

But it's also common consensus on here to applaud the recent aggressive use of federal agents to violently suppress dissenters and perceived enemies of the right among the citizenry.

To me these positions seems to contradict each other. Granted that obviously not everyone holds both of these opinions. I suppose my concern would be, for example, that this aggressive suppression being applauded could easily segue into suppressing anti-Israel sentiment, which would be perfectly aligned with what we've seen from Trump administration. Is that a tradeoff worth making for deportations that can be walked back by inc. demo administration + owning some libs? Just thinking aloud here trying to make sense of everything. Perhaps it makes more sense if Trump doesn't intend to leave office in 2028.
 
I have still been processing why exactly this escalation and the reaction to it has made me so uneasy. I think what I can't reconcile is this: its seems more or less consensus on this site that Trump is a corrupt Zionist and that the federal government is deeply compromised and not directed to work in favor of the American people (which I largely agree with although I think Trump in his boomer way is trying to help the country).

But it's also common consensus on here to applaud the recent aggressive use of federal agents to violently suppress dissenters and perceived enemies of the right among the citizenry.

To me these positions seems to contradict each other. Granted that obviously not everyone holds both of these opinions. I suppose my concern would be, for example, that this aggressive suppression being applauded could easily segue into suppressing anti-Israel sentiment, which would be perfectly aligned with what we've seen from Trump administration. Is that a tradeoff worth making for deportations that can be walked back by inc. demo administration + owning some libs? Just thinking aloud here trying to make sense of everything. Perhaps it makes more sense if Trump doesn't intend to leave office in 2028.
This is potentially a problem and likely going to be a problem, that whatever authoritarian measures become normalized for one purpose now may be used for another purpose later, but this has already happened in many areas and to great extremity.

We already have total covert surveillance and an activist media supporting a political system that cracks down on more than half the population for merely expressing their non-violent political opinions. We already have significant levels of violence against whites by non as well as non vs. nons. We already have massive debt that benefits very few and funds foreign wars for Israel. We already have massive corruption the where Democrats have turned mass immigration into a pay for play system for votes, wherein the voters do not choose the politicians, but the politicians choose the voters by importing them through legal and illegal means.

While things can always get worse with government persecution, people are recognizing that mass immigration and replacement is something from which you can never recover, so anything in that direction will be encouraged.
 
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I have still been processing why exactly this escalation and the reaction to it has made me so uneasy. I think what I can't reconcile is this: its seems more or less consensus on this site that Trump is a corrupt Zionist and that the federal government is deeply compromised and not directed to work in favor of the American people (which I largely agree with although I think Trump in his boomer way is trying to help the country).

But it's also common consensus on here to applaud the recent aggressive use of federal agents to violently suppress dissenters and perceived enemies of the right among the citizenry.

To me these positions seems to contradict each other. Granted that obviously not everyone holds both of these opinions. I suppose my concern would be, for example, that this aggressive suppression being applauded could easily segue into suppressing anti-Israel sentiment, which would be perfectly aligned with what we've seen from Trump administration. Is that a tradeoff worth making for deportations that can be walked back by inc. demo administration + owning some libs? Just thinking aloud here trying to make sense of everything. Perhaps it makes more sense if Trump doesn't intend to leave office in 2028.
Illegal aliens are not part of the citizenry. The leftist citizens who are fighting for the illegals want them to be able to fraudulently win elections. They are obstructing Law Enforcement Officers and resisting arrest.

So, it's legitimate LEOs fighting to enforce the law, in part to prevent voting fraud that the left needs to win elections. The left is breaking the law when they obstruct LEOs and resist arrest, and they are fighting to keep the immigration laws from being enforced.

I'm glad the federal LEOs are fighting hard to enforce the laws, and are properly fighting back against the criminal leftists trying to obstruct them.

The reason why some people say that Trump is a corrupt Zionist is because he should be going even harder against these anti-American leftists, and he's failing to do so. If it weren't for the corrupt Jewish influence, the people leading these anti-ICE rioters would have already been under arrest.
 
Illegal aliens are not part of the citizenry. The leftist citizens who are fighting for the illegals want them to be able to fraudulently win elections. They are obstructing Law Enforcement Officers and resisting arrest.

So, it's legitimate LEOs fighting to enforce the law, in part to prevent voting fraud that the left needs to win elections. The left is breaking the law when they obstruct LEOs and resist arrest, and they are fighting to keep the immigration laws from being enforced.

I'm glad the federal LEOs are fighting hard to enforce the laws, and are properly fighting back against the criminal leftists trying to obstruct them.

The reason why some people say that Trump is a corrupt Zionist is because he should be going even harder against these anti-American leftists, and he's failing to do so. If it weren't for the corrupt Jewish influence, the people leading these anti-ICE rioters would have already been under arrest.

So your perspective is it's like a triage of taking a calculated risk to try to solve shorter term issues and then hopefully deal with ZOG down the road?
 
The ICE agent who shot and killed Renee Gold in self-defense is a White, Christian, conservative man with a Filipina wife.

He is a father and Iraq War veteran who served in the Indiana National Guard, boasting two decades of combined military and law-enforcement service. He worked with the Border Patrol starting in 2007 and joined ICE in 2015.



Jonathan Ross is up to $193K.

 
So your perspective is it's like a triage of taking a calculated risk to try to solve shorter term issues and then hopefully deal with ZOG down the road?
I'm not sure about that. I am in favor of ICE taking aggressive action against illegals, and I'm in favor of ICE overcoming the leftists who are fighting them and rioting over this.

The fact that Trump is doing some things that the Jews want doesn't turn me in favor of the illegals or the leftist rioters. I don't see that letting the leftists win on this issue is somehow the best path towards beating ZOG. It's obvious to me ZOG wants this and Trump is right to fight it.

Supporting ZOG because you're mad at Trump for not fighting ZOG is a mixed up strategy.
 
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Little Dark spotted in Minneapolis.


Bwahahahaha... Little Dark just took out 30 WK, and took out Big Red twice! This is just glorious and I have already watched it 8 times crying harder with laughter each time.

I'm going to watch it again right now. I might be ready to get out there and get a few licks in. I mean, a couple nights in jail ain't gonna kill me.
 
The leftist elites are retrying their strategies from 2020 but dialing up the tone a bit. The cultural, social, and political climate is a bit different this time though. Trump was on his way out in 2020 and handled the riots poorly in an attempt at securing re election (whether the election was stolen or not is unrelated here). This term he still has plenty of time left on the clock.

The population back then was still sensitized to the effects and propaganda seeded from the Obama administration about poor, underprivileged, and racially discriminated minorities while whites had to feel bad about their heritage, accomplishments, and fruits of their hard work. Now, after seeing the content of the character of minorities as well as their constant and well documented unified open disdain, hatred, violence, while blaming whites and calling them evil and racist for all their shortcomings has absolutely numbed and angered any decent sane, rational person with common sense living in the real world. When even some modern democrats/liberals/alt weirdos (like the female cinnabon worker and that tattooed Shiloh mother) drop the mask and start calling a spade a nig with full knowledge of being publicly recorded and what that might imply, then you can be VERY certain that public sentiment has radically changed, even if its not being commonly expressed in public.

Back then the riots sparked over cabin fever due to the government restrictions from covid 19 and the need to virtue signal over a poor oppressed black felon with a rap sheet. Since then most blacks are now largely viewed negatively by the general public due to constant documented violence/murder, danger, disorderly conduct, ratchet/thuggish attitude, unpredictable swings of behavior, theft, and overall incompatibility in a high trust, polite society. Even well behaved, respectful black people are starting to call out and distant themselves from their feral brother and sisters. The elites and their liberal pets have also realized this and have basically punted them off their place in the "poor minority" hierarchy and have now elevated hispanics in their place. Not because they actually care about hispanics, but because hispanics are a convenient anchor to excuse their real agenda while simultaneously putting on an air of deceitful "benevolence". Liberals have seen they cannot tame or control blacks so the poor "humble", "hardworking" hispanic is their next best pet.

What these out of touch, rich, liberal retards dont realize is that FOB hispanics are much more cunning and strategic than blacks without many of the same shortcomings. They're not shy or ashamed about abusing USA govt welfare/govt assistance while still being accustomed to a hard day's work. Their impulse control is much more refined and they can plan for the long term. They're also extremely nepotistic and family oriented and not shy about doing dirty or hard work, even if its short term. Arrogant employers thought they would have a "subservient" cheap slave to take advantage of forever. Now their children and grandchildren will pay for their hubris.

Almost 3 decades of this behavior has made them a significant threat to the very citizens of the USA, both in numbers, finances, job opportunities, and resources. If indians are the white collar scourge, then hispanics are the blue collar and low skilled labor scourge. Politicians have repeated the same mistake, appeasing these people and giving them voting rights either fraudently or eventually when they got citizenship a few years after getting legal residency. Again, hispanics are cunning and patient when necessary, keeping their heads low when convenient. They'll play the part and vote for these treasonous politicians as long as it suits them. Until hispanics start getting US government positions, then they start voting for their own kind and setting policies that benefits them. This extends now, to an extent, other international minorities like these Somalis, currently.

Back to these deranged theatrics. There is some serious demonic mind control happening on a national, if not global scale. Regarding these idiot lib "foot soldiers" its almost like these people know their hearts are full of sin and evil and believe acting like crazed zealots towards the current "cultural and government approval checklist" will absolve them of their evil deeds. Exercising this public ritual display seems to take priority over everything else, including the welfare of their children and themselves. A evil inverse of "deny thyself". An alarming symptom of a increasingly Godless society and a rapidly imploding nation visibly fracturing. And as we know, white liberal women seem to be the most affected by this.

This all started with Obama. Subversive ideology started well before 9/11 in schools and learning institutions. However after 9/11 the US was unified under a common goal and enemy and nationalism was probably the highest it had been quite a few years. This lasted until Obama subtly started placing the various chess pieces to help shape the climate of today in various aspects. His entire slogan was centered around "CHANGE". People should have been paying better attention but criticizing a half black "novelty" president in those times was voluntarily making yourself a target. And that's now the problem. These deranged and loud lunatics no longer want a caucasian president in charge, much less one that isnt kissing their ass, succumbing to their insane demands, or easily controlled. Biden received a pass because he was old, not in the right mind, easily manipulated, a major panderer, and had a diversity hire token female VP. Im not a fan of Trump but these satanic foot soldiers and their handlers want Trump gone by any means. They dont give a damn about ICE or any hispanics. Thats simply an excuse to express their mentally ill demonic impulses in an attempt to absolve themselves and please their "masters".
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We need a two thumbs up reaction emoji available for posts like this.
 
Very interesting Twitter post about people just being a bag o' memes. It's like the abstract to a thesis explaining NPC's, written by Devon Eriksen.

He wrote this as a quote tweet to
a post about the death of the liberal white woman ICE protestor in Minneapolis, so I'm putting this here. If mods think it's better in another forum or thread, then by all means, pls. move it.

A vast number of humans, probably a majority, aren't people.

They are large language models.

I'm not saying this as a generality, as a clever or funny way of saying, "they are stupid".

No. I mean something very concrete and specific, and there are a lot of people who appear very intelligent, maybe even win awards for writing good poetry or something, who are nevertheless not people, not fully sapient, just a large language model walking around in a human body.

First, you have to understand what a large language model is.

It's a computer (organic or inorganic), which has been trained on a data set consisting solely of language (written or spoken), and rewarded for producing language that sounds like the data set, and is relevant to a prompt.

That's all there is in there.

This is why ChatGPT and Grok lie to you constantly.

It's not because they are somehow just indifferent to the truth — they actually do not understand the concept of "truth" at all.

For something to be a "lie", or an "inaccuracy", there has to be a mismatch between the meaning of words, and the state of reality.

And there's the critical difference. You see, in order to identify a mismatch between the state of reality, and the meaning of a sentence, you have to have a model of reality.

Not just one model, of language.

This is why Grok and ChatGPT hallucinate and tell you lies. Because, for them, everything is language, and there is no reality.

So when I say someone is a large language model, I do not mean he is "stupid". He might be very facile at processing language. He might, in fact, be eloquent enough to give great speeches, get elected president, win the Nobel Peace Prize, and so on.

What I mean is that humans who are large language models do not have a robust world-object model to counterweight their language model. They are able to manipulate symbols, sometimes adroitly, but they are on far shakier ground when trying imagine the objects those symbols represent.

Which brings us to this woman.

Most conservatives understand her behavior in terms of concepts like "suicidal empathy", or "brainwashing", or an "information bubble", interpreted as reasons why she is delusional, but the truth is far worse than that.

To delusional is to have an object model of the world that is deeply and profoundly wrong. But to have an object model of the world that is deeply and profoundly wrong... you have to have one in the first place.

To sapient humans, words are symbols, grounded in object model of reality, that we use to communicate ideas about that reality. We need those words because we don't come equipped with a hologram projector, or telepathic powers.

But for another type of human, that object model isn't very large or robust at all. It consists only of a grass hut or two with a few sticks of furniture, and it can never be matched up with the palaces in the air which she weaves out of words.

And so, to her, there is no reality. Or at least very little.

Reality consists only of her and her immediate surroundings in time and space, and words referring to anything bigger or more complicated are not descriptions of reality... they are magic spells which will make other humans drop loot or give her social approval.

You cannot correct her worldview with contradictory evidence, because there is no worldview to correct.

You cannot confront her with the logical inconsistencies in her worldview, because her object model doesn't actually have any, it's not complex enough for that.

The relevant parts of her world-object model can be summed up as follows:

"If I say Goodthing, I get headpats and cookies from all the people like me."

That model is simply not big or complicated enough to contain notions like self-defense or vehicular assault. She has no theory of mind for a man whose job includes violence. She cannot explain or predict his behavior.

It is too far away from her daily experience to fit into her reality at all.

And if she can't imagine things like these, how can she possibly imagine concrete meanings for vast and complex ideas like demographic replacement, culture shift, and western civilization?

This is not about intelligence or lack of it. This is about what her brain is trained to do.

Her upbringing, education, and life did not force, or even encourage, her to develop a robust world-object model. It wasn't necessary for her to get safety, approval, or cookies. She just had to be glib.

So it really didn't matter if she had an IQ of 125, or whatever, because if she did, then she was just an IQ-125-large-language-model, and only used that brain capacity for writing clever poetry, and saying things that aligned her to her local social matrix.

She couldn't actually understand the world no matter how smart she was, because her brain was trained up wrong.

I don't know if this is correctable, or if there was some critical developmental phase that was missed, but it doesn't matter, because once the LLM-humans are adults, they won't sit still for corrective therapy, percussive or not.

What's important is that they can't be taught things. They can be programmed to repeat stuff, and if you win a culture war, you can even program them to say the sensible stuff. But even then, they will just be saying it for headpats and cookies. They will never truly understand the sense of what they are repeating, because they don't understand things.

They are just Large Language Models.

And we have to figure out some way to take the vote away from them.

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Very interesting Twitter post about people just being a bag o' memes. It's like the abstract to a thesis explaining NPC's, written by Devon Eriksen.

He wrote this as a quote tweet to
a post about the death of the liberal white woman ICE protestor in Minneapolis, so I'm putting this here. If mods think it's better in another forum or thread, then by all means, pls. move it.

A vast number of humans, probably a majority, aren't people.

They are large language models.

I'm not saying this as a generality, as a clever or funny way of saying, "they are stupid".

No. I mean something very concrete and specific, and there are a lot of people who appear very intelligent, maybe even win awards for writing good poetry or something, who are nevertheless not people, not fully sapient, just a large language model walking around in a human body.

First, you have to understand what a large language model is.

It's a computer (organic or inorganic), which has been trained on a data set consisting solely of language (written or spoken), and rewarded for producing language that sounds like the data set, and is relevant to a prompt.

That's all there is in there.

This is why ChatGPT and Grok lie to you constantly.

It's not because they are somehow just indifferent to the truth — they actually do not understand the concept of "truth" at all.

For something to be a "lie", or an "inaccuracy", there has to be a mismatch between the meaning of words, and the state of reality.

And there's the critical difference. You see, in order to identify a mismatch between the state of reality, and the meaning of a sentence, you have to have a model of reality.

Not just one model, of language.

This is why Grok and ChatGPT hallucinate and tell you lies. Because, for them, everything is language, and there is no reality.

So when I say someone is a large language model, I do not mean he is "stupid". He might be very facile at processing language. He might, in fact, be eloquent enough to give great speeches, get elected president, win the Nobel Peace Prize, and so on.

What I mean is that humans who are large language models do not have a robust world-object model to counterweight their language model. They are able to manipulate symbols, sometimes adroitly, but they are on far shakier ground when trying imagine the objects those symbols represent.

Which brings us to this woman.

Most conservatives understand her behavior in terms of concepts like "suicidal empathy", or "brainwashing", or an "information bubble", interpreted as reasons why she is delusional, but the truth is far worse than that.

To delusional is to have an object model of the world that is deeply and profoundly wrong. But to have an object model of the world that is deeply and profoundly wrong... you have to have one in the first place.

To sapient humans, words are symbols, grounded in object model of reality, that we use to communicate ideas about that reality. We need those words because we don't come equipped with a hologram projector, or telepathic powers.

But for another type of human, that object model isn't very large or robust at all. It consists only of a grass hut or two with a few sticks of furniture, and it can never be matched up with the palaces in the air which she weaves out of words.

And so, to her, there is no reality. Or at least very little.

Reality consists only of her and her immediate surroundings in time and space, and words referring to anything bigger or more complicated are not descriptions of reality... they are magic spells which will make other humans drop loot or give her social approval.

You cannot correct her worldview with contradictory evidence, because there is no worldview to correct.

You cannot confront her with the logical inconsistencies in her worldview, because her object model doesn't actually have any, it's not complex enough for that.

The relevant parts of her world-object model can be summed up as follows:

"If I say Goodthing, I get headpats and cookies from all the people like me."

That model is simply not big or complicated enough to contain notions like self-defense or vehicular assault. She has no theory of mind for a man whose job includes violence. She cannot explain or predict his behavior.

It is too far away from her daily experience to fit into her reality at all.

And if she can't imagine things like these, how can she possibly imagine concrete meanings for vast and complex ideas like demographic replacement, culture shift, and western civilization?

This is not about intelligence or lack of it. This is about what her brain is trained to do.

Her upbringing, education, and life did not force, or even encourage, her to develop a robust world-object model. It wasn't necessary for her to get safety, approval, or cookies. She just had to be glib.

So it really didn't matter if she had an IQ of 125, or whatever, because if she did, then she was just an IQ-125-large-language-model, and only used that brain capacity for writing clever poetry, and saying things that aligned her to her local social matrix.

She couldn't actually understand the world no matter how smart she was, because her brain was trained up wrong.

I don't know if this is correctable, or if there was some critical developmental phase that was missed, but it doesn't matter, because once the LLM-humans are adults, they won't sit still for corrective therapy, percussive or not.

What's important is that they can't be taught things. They can be programmed to repeat stuff, and if you win a culture war, you can even program them to say the sensible stuff. But even then, they will just be saying it for headpats and cookies. They will never truly understand the sense of what they are repeating, because they don't understand things.

They are just Large Language Models.

And we have to figure out some way to take the vote away from them.

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This idea of LLM people and the idea of people who are just NPCs both have a fair amount of merit.

I would say that all humans have a soul, and are subject to God. So in that sense they are sentient and are real people.

However, on a practical level of dealing with people day by day, these ideas about LLMs and NPCs really do seem to fit what we observe. If you think of a person as an NPC, and only interact with them like a player talking to an NPC, and only expect NPC things from them, it can work pretty well. If you expect more from them, it can often go surprisingly wrong.
 
For something to be a "lie", or an "inaccuracy", there has to be a mismatch between the meaning of words, and the state of reality.


This is the key statement. This is where the fundamental mindset diverges. A large majority of the population does not operate with the assumption that meaning of words matches to reality. People often express this as saying something like "it's all relative". At least half the population operates with this kind of base assumption.


I would say that all humans have a soul, and are subject to God. So in that sense they are sentient and are real people.

There is something that is divergent here. I agree every human has a soul. Perhaps it's on the level of Holy Spirit. Accepting the world has a pattern that maps to our mind in a reasonable way is on the level of faith and very fundamental stuff (and fundamental in the sense that this is where the Holy Spirit is operating). But, essentially, maybe people push that idea out so they can do what they want to do. If meanings of words don't match reality in a fundamental way that's a pretty convenient way to never think you ever do anything wrong.
 
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