The China Thread

Below is a video of China's high trust society captivated in a Western setting, aka IKEA. It's spot on. Concepts like personal space, personal property, decency, personal hygiene and behaviour in public all get interpreted a bit different in China. That's why in public settings disgusting, inconsiderate and anti-social behavior is the norm.

IKEA was a hype in the second part of the 2010s. Now, like so many other Western companies, they are leaving.

 
^I came across the same post recently, though not from an Indian source (that in itself is kind of funny in an ironic way).

LaAguilaNegra said:
Below is a video of China's high trust society captivated in a Western setting, aka IKEA. It's spot on. Concepts like personal space, personal property, decency, personal hygiene and behaviour in public all get interpreted a bit different in China. That's why in public settings disgusting, inconsiderate and anti-social behavior is the norm.

IKEA was a hype in the second part of the 2010s. Now, like so many other Western companies, they are leaving.
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No, LaNegra, you're making stuff up again, Ikea is not leaving China, that is a pretty dumb idea, don't believe that Arun Pudur dude, Ikea being the largest furniture retailer in the world, and China being the 2nd largest market, with a high growth rate.
  • The post shares a video of Chinese shoppers napping on IKEA furniture during a heatwave, using sarcasm to mock it as evidence of futuristic living while claiming it drives brand exits like IKEA's.
  • This napping trend stems from affordable air-conditioned public spaces serving as refuges for urban dwellers with limited home cooling, a pattern observed worldwide, including U.S. IKEAs sheltering homeless individuals during heatwaves.
  • Contrary to the post, IKEA is expanding in China with two new stores planned for Liaoning and Sichuan in 2025, signaling long-term commitment despite past selective closures amid shifting retail dynamics.
More from a reliable source:


"Here are the straight facts about IKEA in China (as of November 2025, no fluff, no exaggeration):
• IKEA has 34 large-format stores + several smaller city stores and experience centers in mainland China.
• China is IKEA’s 4th-largest market globally by number of stores (behind Sweden, Germany, USA).
• Only 3 stores have closed in the past 5 years:
• Guiyang (2022)• Shanghai Yangpu (2022)
• Shanghai Jing’an small-format pilot (end of 2024) → All were underperforming locations; none signal an exit.
• IKEA is actively expanding:
• New mega-store + Livat shopping mall opening in Shanghai Hongqiao in 2026.
• Invested an additional €20 million in September 2025 just to extend price cuts
• Sales in China remain strong: ~3.5–3.6% of IKEA’s global revenue.
• Online sales (Tmall, JD, WeChat) are growing fast; physical stores are still packed, especially in summer (people do use air-conditioning as a free public space — IKEA accepts it).
• No official statement, plan, or credible report says IKEA is leaving China.

Bottom line: IKEA is not shutting down in China. The viral X post uses old footage and false claims. Fact-checked and confirmed false by multiple sources including IKEA China’s own channels."
 
Another banger of serpentza and laowhy86, this time shining light and subsequently trashing the CCP's BS claims surrounding its 'eradication of poverty', and their paid agitators nonsensical claims that 'China cares about its people'.

Below are videos on China's pension stipends for workers and farmers. Chinese monthly pensions for 'retirees' in these fields amount to 122 rmb/ 17 USD. All expenses have to covered from this measly hand full of coins, girl below shows how little this is. Meaning that many of these people have to work until they either die or until their back breaks, after which they'll die anyway because the infamous Chinese healthcare system is not accessible for hundreds of millions of Chinese.

Laowhy86 extrapolates, and rightly remarks that the potbellied CCP bigwigs have simply fudged with benchmarks and the likes, meaning that with one stroke of a pen poverty was gone. You see this type of open cynicism, misantrophy and extreme calculational attitude often in authoritarian and nepotistic regimes, it was the bureaucratic undercurrent of many of the man-caused famines up til the 80s.

Furthermore the girl in the video below is in grave danger, anyone exposing China's dirty laundry does not end well. Mild 'whistleblowers' like Hu Chenfeng and tennisplayer Peng Shuai, whose only criticism was that some of China's social policies don't work, have disappeared from the face of the earth.



 
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TruckDriver9 said:
Death toll rises to 128 with hundreds still unaccounted for.
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Constructing buildings way too close to one another is a huge problem all over asia (even in South Korea) and it always leads to catastrophic consequences when fires break out and quickly spread from one structure to the next. Europe and the USA has strict minimum distance levels that homes (or buildings) must have between them, for over 150 years now, because of terrible mass fires up until the early 19th century. Never understood why asian countries don't have this standard yet, even in the most modern buildings.

Also, the enormous bamboo scaffolding around these high rises made a bad situation a lot worse.
 
China bashers and Sino neg-heads need to stop doom posting just because one housing complex went up in flames. Reliable Politburo statistics say that Chyna built 88,888,888 new housing complexes last year, all with 188% occupancy rates and none of them caught fire, except those I've dismissed because it happened more than 15 minutes ago.
 
Cooper said:
-China has an incredibly large population base. A decline from 1.4 billion to 1 billion or slightly less still leaves China with a huge population.
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You've attempted to distill an extremely complex sociological phenomenon into a simple-minded inversion of the overused "China big, has many people" cliché.

-The middle class, highly educated population in China which was tiny a few decades is still growing at a fast rate, and will continue to grow. Those are the people who will be driving China's future.

Key figures in recent history:
  • 1998: Approximately 1 million new college graduates.
  • 2017: A record 8 million graduates.
  • 2023: 11.6 million graduates, representing 63% of the relevant age cohort, a dramatic increase from the 6% in the early 2000s.
  • 2025: A projected 12.22 million graduates, with another 12.7 million expected in 2026.
  • 2021-2025: The higher education system has produced over 55 million graduates during this five-year period.
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China is growing their middle class rapidly, which is an excellent achievement. Having improved the treatment of their children is perhaps even a greater stride, so good on them.

The Chinese path to a comfy, middle class life does require college education, but it's important to keep in mind that it's perfunctory and not functional, which has become more true in the USA as well. By this I mean the quality of the education is not at all important and it shows, for example in the USA with the proliferation of <women's/black/oppressed person> studies degrees.

I saw countless examples in China while I was there, but one was a Chinese girl I knew with a Masters in chemistry who literally knew absolutely nothing about chemistry. Not one thing. She didn't know what the periodic table was, what a mole was, electron shells, nothing. She said she had almost gone insane from the pressure of memorizing rubbish and nearly dropped out before her second degree, but managed to hold on.

The Chinese education system relies on a series of tests that determine the next school for which you're eligible and begin in 6th grade for your middle school assignment, then for your high school, and most importantly your last such test in high school, the Gao Kao, which determines the school and types of majors for which you're eligible, and directly connects to the job you'll get after.

Riot After Chinese Teachers Try to Stop Gaokao Cheating​

Posted by Josh Rudolph | Jun 21, 2013

Chinese students cram and learn to cheat from the age of 8 until their final year in high school with almost no free time for recreation or proper nutrition, much less sleep. Once they take the Gao Kao and get into college, that's the end of the mental torture for the vast majority of them, and they can just coast along and cheat a bit until their graduation because their job eligibility is mostly pre-determined and not dependent on whether they get A's or B's in university, which they can cheat for or purchase in various ways.

Chinese diplomas were never recognized outside the Middle Kingdom for ages because they're pretty much all fake. I'm sure there have been some improvements as I know it's not quite as easy to totally fake your medical doctor university degrees as it used to be, but it's crap, which is one reason why Xi Jin Ping sent his daughter to the USA for college and why perhaps a million wealthy Chinese do every year to schools in the West.
 
LaAguilaNegra said:
This one requires a bit more attention. China, which deals with a 20-25 percent youth unemployment rate, has opened the gates to 'foreign talent' aka rapey brown and black wage suppressors. According to Chinese media this massive policy u-turn is due to a 30 million people gap in STEM related fields. That's a lot of migroids to come.

China's new K visa is part of Beijing's Talent Power Strategy. To noone's irony the CCP's media arms, both official and official, have started selling this plan as a 9D chess move, putting it in opposition to DJT's move against the previous H1B set up. China apparantly also needs these millions of high value foreigners to keep growing, whilst at the same time only Chinese Americans will come and WEST BAD. Simultaneously the K Visa holders are needed and valuable, and will add to Chinese culture and society.

The K Visa is practically a free for all because a STEM degree is all that's needed. As if a piece of paper means anything in the turdworld. At least with the H1Bs a foreign applicant needs a sponsor and invitation. The future K Visa holders don't need any of that, they can just hop on the plane and that's that. Furthermore, the K Visa applies to everyone meaning that any thirdworlder with a paid rag from a local diploma mill is eligible.





Lowbrow CCP shills running damage control, hilarious stuff.







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It's happening already, China's new K visa is looking rock solid and the Indians are coming. That was fast!

 
One of the standard "cheat codes" in the Chinese education system prior to university is when your teacher offers "tutoring" on the weekends. This is just a way for parents to bribe the teacher to give their child a 100 perfect score on everything and it's very common.

All the years I taught in China, I never bothered to give homework assignments. They students just organize in class for one of them to copy something off the Internet and then share it.

My logistical preparation for giving tests where it was difficult to cheat was significant. I created 4 versions of the same multiple choice test, but physically arranged the questions in different positions in the different versions so students next to each other couldn't easily copy answers. Then I had to arrange where I handed out the tests so the same versions were not next to each other.

The first time I did this, the students immediately noticed my hidden identifier for the test version, so I had to come up with a code system to distinguish them for using the proper grading key, and then grading took much longer.

Never knew another foreign or local teacher who went to my lengths to prevent cheating because it was so rampant it's difficult to imagine you're making a difference, but I just had to do what I could, otherwise my job was meaningless to me.
 
LaAguilaNegra said:
Another banger of serpentza and laowhy86, this time shining light and subsequently trashing the CCP's BS claims surrounding its 'eradication of poverty', and their paid agitators nonsensical claims that 'China cares about its people'.

Below are videos on China's pension stipends for workers and farmers. Chinese monthly pensions for 'retirees' in these fields amount to 122 rmb/ 17 USD. All expenses have to covered from this measly hand full of coins, girl below shows how little this is. Meaning that many of these people have to work until they either die or until their back breaks, after which they'll die anyway because the infamous Chinese healthcare system is not accessible for hundreds of millions of Chinese.

Laowhy86 extrapolates, and rightly remarks that the potbellied CCP bigwigs have simply fudged with benchmarks and the likes, meaning that with one stroke of a pen poverty was gone. You see this type of open cynicism, misantrophy and extreme calculational attitude often in authoritarian and nepotistic regimes, it was the bureaucratic undercurrent of many of the man-caused famines up til the 80s.

Furthermore the girl in the video below is in grave danger, anyone exposing China's dirty laundry does not end well. Mild 'whistleblowers' like Hu Chenfeng and tennisplayer Peng Shuai, whose only criticism was that some of China's social policies don't work, have disappeared from the face of the earth.



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The solution to China's carefully statistically erased poverty problem has been found, which is the Chang variant of the Japanese capsule hotels. If groups of Chinese pensioners would start pooling their 17USD monthly pensions they could rent at least one of the bedbug infested goypods shown below. Stack the oldies up 3 or 4 high and you're ready to go. Note: at least one of these pensioners needs to stay awake to avoid suffocation and serve as human canary in the coalmine.

This is what living in the future looks like, someone please slap some LED lighting on that thaaaanggg.

 
LaAguilaNegra said:
Another banger of serpentza and laowhy86, this time shining light and subsequently trashing the CCP's BS claims surrounding its 'eradication of poverty', and their paid agitators nonsensical claims that 'China cares about its people'.

Below are videos on China's pension stipends for workers and farmers. Chinese monthly pensions for 'retirees' in these fields amount to 122 rmb/ 17 USD. All expenses have to covered from this measly hand full of coins, girl below shows how little this is. Meaning that many of these people have to work until they either die or until their back breaks, after which they'll die anyway because the infamous Chinese healthcare system is not accessible for hundreds of millions of Chinese.

Laowhy86 extrapolates, and rightly remarks that the potbellied CCP bigwigs have simply fudged with benchmarks and the likes, meaning that with one stroke of a pen poverty was gone. You see this type of open cynicism, misantrophy and extreme calculational attitude often in authoritarian and nepotistic regimes, it was the bureaucratic undercurrent of many of the man-caused famines up til the 80s.

Furthermore the girl in the video below is in grave danger, anyone exposing China's dirty laundry does not end well. Mild 'whistleblowers' like Hu Chenfeng and tennisplayer Peng Shuai, whose only criticism was that some of China's social policies don't work, have disappeared from the face of the earth.



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I am vey anti China, but I don’t see how you can have a country with 1.4 billion people without having a huge amount of poverty. Despite the communist party propaganda most Chinese people are still very poor but they are generally speaking a lot less poor than 20 years ago so noticeable progress has been made (albeit from a low starting point).
 
Twitter's algorithm is gold, once one's clicked a few times on one of these accounts that spend their time lifting footage over The Great Firewall backdooring everything gets presented on a platter in the feed.

This is from yesterday and yesterday alone. China's livjng in a simulation. There are zero safety measures, there is zero common sense, there is zero respect for human life and everything manufactured is either fake or a produced with a shortcut.

Go to kindergarten, get to see Uncle WangWang get blown up with his antique popcorn making machine.



Fireworks factory explodes, towns in a 5km radius have their windows blown out. Zero casualties according to local authorities.



Go to a Chinese poor people firework show, have a peasant yank his red-hot ordnance in your direction.



Train crashes into group of construction workers who were working on the tracks in Yunnan



EV lithium battery ignites on transport, eventually all cars get carbecues. Second video is another EV self igniting.

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Newly built city gate replica collapses. In the video bystanders are barked at and told not to film



Chinese harbour burns down, including 8 fishing boats. Continuous explosions of gas cylinders during the night.

 
Read_Lives_of_Saints said:
Hong Kong has cage homes where you live in a metal wire rat cage with a pad lock stuffed into a shared room. A lot of retirees use them.

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Well at least they don't cannibalize each other anymore like they did barely 4 decades ago so I guess we'll have to take the 2sqm goypod lifestyle as a W then.


For those unaware, during the man-made famines of the 1950s-1980s cannibalism was widespread on the Chinese countryside.
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LaAguilaNegra said:
Well at least they don't cannibalize each other anymore like they did barely 4 decades ago so I guess we'll have to take the 2sqm goypod lifestyle as a W then.


For those unaware, during the man-made famines of the 1950s-1980s cannibalism was widespread on the Chinese countryside.
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LaAguilaNegra said:
This is from yesterday and yesterday alone. China's livjng in a simulation. There are zero safety measures, there is zero common sense, there is zero respect for human life and everything manufactured is either fake or a produced with a shortcut.
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Shortcuts also mean pollution, which was rampant in the USSR as well, but appear as short-term cost savings.

You hear about the wisdom of Chinese long-term planning, but you can never see it in practice when you look at a job site, which is chaotic, unsafe, and pumping out endless pollution.

The majority of lakes and rivers in China are unsafe even for bathing & swimming, much less drinking, and much of their arable land has been contaminated as well.

Australia Sucks said:
I am vey anti China, but I don’t see how you can have a country with 1.4 billion people without having a huge amount of poverty. Despite the communist party propaganda most Chinese people are still very poor but they are generally speaking a lot less poor than 20 years ago so noticeable progress has been made (albeit from a low starting point).
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China's current wealth was simply dumped in their lap when they were on the brink of collapse in the 1970's by giving them globalization deals exchanging the demographic suicide of the 1 child policy and slave labor of their people in order to weaken the West by destroying major areas of its culture and productive capacity.

The side-effect of their new wealth from this arrangement can appear to be based on lower costs for Chinese goods, but actually has many hidden costs in pollution, slave labor, intellectual property theft, and several others.

If the West stopped subsidizing China by removing its manufacturing, as well as the assistance given them with training and Western education, it is doubtful IMO that they would be self-sustaining because they still have the same murderous government, and many of the literal and ideological children of the government that plunged them into poverty and cannibalism for decades.
 
LaAguilaNegra said:
For those unaware, during the man-made famines of the 1950s-1980s cannibalism was widespread on the Chinese countryside.
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That map above is a map of historic cases of cannibalism dating from the Qin and Han dynasties, over 2,000 years ago, that's what the legend in Mandarin says, and not a map of "man-made famines of the 1950s-1980s cannibalism".

Even by your own standards LaNegra, you're being a bit deceptive here...
 
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Shortcuts also mean pollution, which was rampant in the USSR as well, but appear as short-term cost savings.

You hear about the wisdom of Chinese long-term planning, but you can never see it in practice when you look at a job site, which is chaotic, unsafe, and pumping out endless pollution.

The majority of lakes and rivers in China are unsafe even for bathing & swimming, much less drinking, and much of their arable land has been contaminated as well.
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Countries like Japan have gone through the same cycle. That country was extremely polluted when it was industrializing in the 1960s-70s, and as it grew wealthier, people started valuing their environment more. China has been undergoing the same process, the environment has been an important factor for them in recent time, you can see the result of that in the improved air quality in their main cities for instance.

Where China and our own countries differ is that their government isn't run by psychotic oligarchs who willfully go out of their way to poison our air and soil with chemtrails, or harm your body and permanently damage your DNA with mRNA vaccines.


China's current wealth was simply dumped in their lap when they were on the brink of collapse in the 1970's by giving them globalization deals exchanging the demographic suicide of the 1 child policy and slave labor of their people in order to weaken the West by destroying major areas of its culture and productive capacity.

The side-effect of their new wealth from this arrangement can appear to be based on lower costs for Chinese goods, but actually has many hidden costs in pollution, slave labor, intellectual property theft, and several others.
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If the West stopped subsidizing China by removing its manufacturing, as well as the assistance given them with training and Western education, it is doubtful IMO that they would be self-sustaining because they still have the same murderous government, and many of the literal and ideological children of the government that plunged them into poverty and cannibalism for decades.
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That ship has sailed decades ago, China has already climbed to the peak of the value-added production chain and the tech and education ladder. Your take about Chinese Chem grads not knowing what the periodic table stands for is hilariously silly, this is the funniest of all your Chinese anecdotes. Did they manage to corner the rare earth processing market going by Feng Shui principles or classical Chinese poetry??

Their government is not plunging them into poverty, it has instead lifted the most people out of poverty in the entire history of civilization - fact. Their current 10 year plan is double their citizens' purchasing power by 2035. In my country, that purchasing power has been halved in the last 7 years alone.
 
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Regarding cannibalism, it was very widespread in Ukraine during famines. This is the fact I know from my grandparent who had survived Holodomor there, not from internet hoaxes, becoming a meal was a daily concern at a young age.
Guess what? If you suffer real famine, you will watch all your Westen societal sensibilities evaporate very quickly. A few days without food and you will see wonders you did not know were possible.
China fear mongeting is so laughable. Good thing China doesn't care, it just keeps moving ahead. It's not Tel Aviv controlled zone, that's what gets people in the West.
 
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