The Destruction of Modern Women

Could be fake or real. But this exact carousel behavior is pretty real for many women in the west

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So this guy was in a group discussion with his GF and her girl friends about their previous hookups? Why was he there and why did she think it was alright to discuss this in front of him? Gotta think he gave her the impression that this was fine, which was his big mistake. If true, he came to a sudden realization that he'd lost or never had her respect, but it sounds to me like she was following his lead and doing her version of repenting of her past.
 
I looked up that guy clavicular doing the rating, and his YT is deleted and gone. That just makes me more curious as he's obviously on to something, although it could be the fact he promotes doing medical things to your face that would obviously be bad for many people. Still, he has the eye of an artist, able to see small facial defects related to bone structure.
 
The guy is a super black pilled and into looksmaxxing to the point where he smokes meth to keep his appetite under control and also does 'bonesmashing' which involves hitting his own face with a hammer.


 
This video is hilarious (especially from 7 minutes in).
What's so funny about a mentally ill man making absurdly hyper-detailed criticisms about these women's appearances, clearly for no purpose but to make them feel bad about themselves?

Only a lonely, embittered individual would find this humorous, and delight in this bizarre guy "knocking these women down a peg". It's very clear that you harbor a deep-seated animosity toward women in general, and have a special hostility for attractive young women who have (or who would, if given the opportunity) reject your advances. The truth is that seeing these women insulted makes you feel better about yourself, and that's why you find it funny. It's nothing more than a balm to your wounded ego.

I would challenge you to be better. Taking pleasure in the suffering of others (even if you perceive it to be deserved on their part) is in no way profitable to your life or wellbeing, is not behavior that a man of good character engages in.
 
What's so funny about a mentally ill man making absurdly hyper-detailed criticisms about these women's appearances, clearly for no purpose but to make them feel bad about themselves?

This is the wrong example to make your argument. I would generally support what you're saying, but he's no knocking them down a peg just for its own sake. I don't see mean spiritedness here. He's clearly obsessed with genetics and centering his criticism on it. He had an opportunity, and the panel expected him to rate all the black women a 1. He didn't. So obviously he's not aiming for low hanging fruit. He rated most of them slightly below average, with select few slight above. I'm guessing he's trying to be entertaining too but so what?

The entertainment value here from the surrealism of it all. It's also entertaining for women to be criticized in this unorthodox way where their defenses are disabled. It's entertaining watching them so emotionally invested.
 
clearly for no purpose but to make them feel bad about themselves?
It’s not for no purpose. These women are attention whores by virtue of the fact they are even on the show to begin with (self selection bias) so they spent their whole lives living in delusion (due to endless simps gassing up their heads) about how awesome they are and how beautiful they are and here this guy comes along in a very calm and scientific manner explaining to them their flaws in a way they can’t refute and he is a good looking guy so they can’t hit back with the usual “you are just bitter because you are an incel”.

It’s useful for them to realise they aren’t all that so just maybe in the future they might be more realistic and settle for a man at their own level rather thinking they are 10s and deserve the perfect man and as a result dying alone as a cat lady.
 
It’s not for no purpose. These women are attention whores by virtue of the fact they are even on the show to begin with (self selection bias) so they spent their whole lives living in delusion (due to endless simps gassing up their heads) about how awesome they are and how beautiful they are and here this guy comes along in a very calm and scientific manner explaining to them their flaws in a way they can’t refute and he is a good looking guy so they can’t hit back with the usual “you are just bitter because you are an incel”.

It’s useful for them to realise they aren’t all that so just maybe in the future they might be more realistic and settle for a man at their own level rather thinking they are 10s and deserve the perfect man and as a result dying alone as a cat lady.

I can give you guys the women are attention whores argument but the video is in bad taste and the ratings stupid and way off. If you walk around anywhere in the US these girls are not 4s or 2s or whatever he is rating them. The average American woman is fat and 170 lbs (number provided in this thread or a related one)

I knew lots of these type of guys growing up in HS and college. Guys with unrealistic standards and could never even get a 5 themselves but they preemptively reject attractive women for stupid stuff like in the video.

Here’s another thing do videos like this help to mend the divide and war between the sexes or do they make it worse? They clearly make it worse. Guy is a complete tool and a loser. Even if a woman wants to date him because of his looksmaxxing or whatever other gay things he is into, his grating personality would drive 99% of women away. If he keeps it up I’m sure some guy either a relative or boyfriend of one of the girls will smash his face in and knock out a few of his teeth. Let’s see how his looksmaxing does after that.
 
He had been as dissatisfied with his own below average looks, and the trauma pushed him to take very extreme measures. The involved people should take it lightly.

Didn't the guests know he would be using a very unique set of criteria related to facial anatomy exclusively. Sort of a pissing contest, but if that's what matters to you... Did they know what was coming- that it wasn't going to be about being PC and preserving decorum, in normal circumstances nobody needs to call anybody ugly and be blunt, if you walk into a lion's den it's different.

Normally, you should only worry about what wise and respectable people think about you, their criticism may sometimes be taken into consideration. If someone is a pos, his opinions are also worth as much as a turd if we use western norms (this isn't India, nightsoil was highly valued in China as recently as 25 years ago too, as fertilizer).

If you know even low rated women wouldn't look your direction, watching this may restore some of your oft violated dignity, a little bit of the humiliation gets reflected.
 
It’s not for no purpose. These women are attention whores by virtue of the fact they are even on the show to begin with (self selection bias) so they spent their whole lives living in delusion (due to endless simps gassing up their heads) about how awesome they are and how beautiful they are and here this guy comes along in a very calm and scientific manner explaining to them their flaws in a way they can’t refute and he is a good looking guy so they can’t hit back with the usual “you are just bitter because you are an incel”.

It’s useful for them to realise they aren’t all that so just maybe in the future they might be more realistic and settle for a man at their own level rather thinking they are 10s and deserve the perfect man and as a result dying alone as a cat lady.

One thing that stuck out to me, is the reminder of how much looks and validation means to a woman. I didn't actually experience a "sad" feefee since I've acquired some emotional maturity, but the lightskin in the blue was hurt even before he rated her, she probably thinks she's ugly, the second last one was hurt, and the lightskin beside him had her narcissism flying off the charts, she was listening to him like he was preaching the gospel. I emphasize with and send these women my condolences with this written statement.

Having said that these women do not deserve any kind of real emotional empathy.

The reality of the situation is that these women are seeking to satisfy the ego as their central directive. I'm not sure why some simps think they're looking for "love" but they're not. They're not going to date some simp who thinks they're beautiful the way they are. They're also going to cheat on any simp with a better looking or more dominant male. This is really the tip of the iceberg because whores are cruel all around. A man will figure this out eventually.

Not only are they whores but what they're perpetuating here is borderline a societal disease. They're doing a podcast, but given any other circumstances, any man in that room would be evaluated by his ability to pull these whores. Your whole value of a man would hinge on that. These whores would not be shy to let you know where you stand either. Not only would they judge you but so would all the other men. Your reputation or performance in this situation would carry forth in everything else; how you perceive yourself and how the "good girls" do too. In fact, these whores are setting the example for the "good girls" to follow. That's how it works.

I'm not even mentioning the fact that whores have destroyed western civilization. Whores perpetuate a system where bad people are rewarded, and good people are invisible. I'm not even sure how they're so good at it but that's the truth.

I sympathize with certain feminist positions. Women are retarded, if they had no rights, they would end up in pretty bad situations. There's a significant number of men who would like to beat a woman any time she makes a mistake, and you won't have to wait long.

These whores are the other extreme of that. These modern whores are women purposely making real "mistakes" we have to bare. A little disrespect is to be expected.

Food for thought.
 
You're all missing the point he was trying to make that women should be seeking men who are on the same level as them, not men who are way higher level than them who they keep getting hurt by. There is "looks" inflation these days, especially with these girls who get a ton of validation from the internet. It's obviously hurting how men and women interact, but you guys are acting as if this online culture doesn't even exist. And of course those women were all below average or at-best average because they were all clearly fat. The inflation also occurs because most women in the US are 1s but think they are average. I'm sorry but no, a 170+ pound woman is not a 5 any day of the week. It's not possible. Such a woman is also full of sin if we want to go there, as no righteous person would be so slothful and gluttonous if they took their faith seriously. I also don't see how any secular atheist can object to anything that clavicular guy does. They know life is unfair and unequal and give a guy a hard time for doing whatever is materially available to overcome it. It's like women putting on makeup. I also think no good moral system can ever be based on "how does this make women feel?"
 
The fact that they are probably whores and part of societal degradation is true, but I think the guys defending the video are missing the point in actual results from this video interaction.

Do you really think him rating them is going to change their behavior either in being whores or wanting a man who is better than them?

Nope. First of all his ratings are too harsh and I don’t know where you guys live but most women in the US are worse than the ones in the video. Second they will still be getting tons of attention both online and in real life regardless of what that idiot is telling them. The simping is too strong.

Go do an experiment yourself and find a girl similar to the one of the video or even worse looking and make a fake online profile. It will get hundreds of messages per week. They also all seem younger than 30, so there are millions of guys who will wife them up. That’s just the way it is in this gynocentric society.

Here’s another thing most guys aren’t going to admit. They stand little to no chance with girls at the similar level in the video in the west. Or it’s going to take an insane amount of work for little reward. Just the way it is, but guys egos aren’t going let them admit it.
 
If you walk around anywhere in the US these girls are not 4s or 2s or whatever he is rating them.
I agree the guy was overly harsh but that made it more comical because it juxtaposes to all the simps they would usually get telling these women “you are perfect, you are a 10”, etc.

The other factor is that it’s an age old argument if female looks ratings are global or local. Many would argue a global standard should be used and if that is case then the average US woman might be a 3 for example and the average Ukrainian woman might be a 6 for example. But yes if you are using a local looks rating scale then the average woman in the U.S. by definition must be a 5.
 
Here’s another thing most guys aren’t going to admit. They stand little to no chance with girls at the similar level in the video in the west. Or it’s going to take an insane amount of work for little reward. Just the way it is, but guys egos aren’t going let them admit
I disagree. Most guys are actually admitting the problem where they cannot get a woman at their own level in a western country (or if they can the juice isn’t worth the squeeze) hence the whole reason why Rooshv and passport bros etc even existed to begin with. Men are usually not delusional about this sort of stuff in the way that women are.
 
I agree the guy was overly harsh but that made it more comical because it juxtaposes to all the simps they would usually get telling these women “you are perfect, you are a 10”, etc.

The other factor is that it’s an age old argument if female looks ratings are global or local. Many would argue a global standard should be used and if that is case then the average US woman might be a 3 for example and the average Ukrainian woman might be a 6 for example. But yes if you are using a local looks rating scale then the average woman in the U.S. by definition must be a 5.

I understand the sentiment, I just don’t think it’s going to have any effect. The girls will brush it off the next day and there will be 100s or more guys hitting them up.
 
I disagree. Most guys are actually admitting the problem where they cannot get a woman at their own level in a western country (or if they can the juice isn’t worth the squeeze) hence the whole reason why Rooshv and passport bros etc even existed to begin with. Men are usually not delusional about this sort of stuff in the way that women are.

There are still plenty of guys who are brainwashed by porn that think it’s real and they can achieve a woman of that level. Even those girls in the video most guys can’t achieve due to hoeflation and women going for the top men.
 
I think that's all that guy was ultimately trying to point out: hoeflation. We all know many dudes would happily settle for that guy's "2s and 3s", but the problem with hoeflation is what hoe_math is essentially trying to root out, which is how women don't go for any man who is less than a 7, no matter where she is on the scale. That phenomenon seems to be growing and is probably a big contributor to the current dating market being so lamented everywhere online. I still see 1s and 2s dating, such as at my place of work where a very clear 1 was super happy to announce the other day she was getting married (probably 200 pounds alone in her body, her legs are skinny and shapeless, her arms the same, who knows how many health problems, I think she's 10 years younger than me but suffers from kidney stones and other ailments).
 
I disagree. Replace the word women with the word children in that sentence and see how absurd it sounds. And since women are barely more responsible than children you see how it makes no sense.

You like digging in your heels, for unknown reasons. There's such a thing as child abuse. Not all "property" owners/caretakers are made equal.

Do you really think him rating them is going to change their behavior either in being whores or wanting a man who is better than them?

This appears to be zoomer defiance towards out of pocket women, that everyone older essentially enables. The zoomers are very crass/blunt, they're impolite, but it's something that needs to happen. The ends justify the means.

You have to remember that we as men don't have to live and die as incels. We can act like animals or behave like our greatest strength. If western women want to corral western men into some invisible pleb cage, disrespect is the least of their worries.

I'm not sure what situation you think needs to be rectified but the whole model needs to be abandoned.

Perhaps we will never have white sharia, but there needs to be some kind of humbling. Women need to understand they can't go around acting like they do. Avoiding regular men, sucking off assholes, producing no children, voting for satanists, and telling big daddy we need more tyranny. If you force yourself to separate the woman from her prize of all prizes, you begin to realize how ridiculous this whole thing is.
 
The guy is a super black pilled and into looksmaxxing to the point where he smokes meth to keep his appetite under control and also does 'bonesmashing' which involves hitting his own face with a hammer.


This guys vs girls looks competition in the war of the sexes is really gay.
 
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