Forum rules discussion thread

[NSOE]

If there is truly no biblical rule prohibiting sex outside of marriage—particularly with a non-virgin woman—then we must follow what the Bible actually says.

St. Paul also cautioned that anybody who seeps with a prostitute becomes one flesh with her, a union only a husband and wife should form.

If a woman gave demons the access to somehow afflict her, when you become one flesh, they can get access to you as well, as with all sins because of God's mercy this isn't always the case.

 

[magoo]

“There is a passage from Alfonso de Castro, the saintly Franciscan father of Trent. It reminds me that even if a man may sin, if he holds the orthodoxy of our Faith and weeps over his sin, there is always hope for his salvation. Keep the Catholic Faith in its entirety, and no matter how bad you may sin, God will always forgive you.
“For he who steals, even if he acts against Scripture forbidding it to occur, he is not a heretic, unless he believes that theft is not a sin. Sacred Scripture forbids fornication, but he who fornicates, unless he believes that this can be done with impunity, ought not to be deemed a heretic.”

 

[Steady Hands]

That is why I believe this new forum rule requires further explanation or adjustment.​

I've bolded the above to reiterate what Thomas noted -- this rule is not new, it's just been highlighted.

The rules thread was updated to provide clearer guidance to new members; not to advertise a new rule or a change to an existing rule. In sum, the clarification of this guideline will not change how you or others interact with the forum.

You signed up almost two years ago, so you should be aware that this guideline has been in place since the early days of CiK, even if it wasn't explicitly noted in the forum rules thread.

If you want to debate the nature of sin, the interpretation of scripture, etc., there are other more appropriate threads where you can continue discussing these topics.

In any case, considering the high standards inherent to the principles and rules of CiK, the moderation here tends to be fairly lenient.

 

[Seng Hock]

I know that these discussions happened in the past, but the threads they were in have been repeatedly shut down. We want to allow relationship talk, but we're not going to be allowing discussions about banging sluts, or dating non-virgins without the intent to marry. Anyone who is intending to commit this sin should at least have the decency not to try to discuss it with the other guys in the Christian forum.​

If you intend to have sex outside of marriage, you'll have to work that out with God. However, you can't expect a Christian forum to tell you it's ok.​

For the sake of maintaining standards in the forum, and to avoid further commotion, I accept the moderators’ ruling that any sex outside of marriage is considered fornication, and that all discussions about relationships must remain within the context of Christian marriage.

I will raise no further objections to this rule.​

 

[RedLagoon]

For the sake of maintaining standards in the forum, and to avoid further commotion, I accept the moderators’ ruling that any sex outside of marriage is considered fornication, and that all discussions about relationships must remain within the context of Christian marriage.

I will raise no further objections to this rule.​

 

[GodfatherPartTwo]

I have a question about the rule's language. It specifically mentioned "Christian marriage." If a non Christian posted about wanting to marry a woman, does that break the rule?

 

[Thomas More]

I have a question about the rule's language. It specifically mentioned "Christian marriage." If a non Christian posted about wanting to marry a woman, does that break the rule?

No. I would consider monogamous marriage to be equivalently moral in worldly terms. I certainly recommend Christian marriage though. Vows taken before God, with Christ in the home strengthening and preserving the relationship.