Once the dust settles and the area is stabilized, a lot of the pro-Kyiv people will come back, especially those who own property or businesses there.
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Once the dust settles and the area is stabilized, a lot of the pro-Kyiv people will come back, especially those who own property or businesses there.
The silence on this thread is deafening.
Incredible narrative control by the (((west))). Not only are we back to the topic of abducted Ukrainian children held in the Russian gulag, but we're even back to topic of Ukrainian Crimea. People literally died for nothing.
You got to squeeze the balls to get the nectar.
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Incredible narrative control by the (((west))). Not only are we back to the topic of abducted Ukrainian children held in the Russian gulag, but we're even back to topic of Ukrainian Crimea. People literally died for nothing.
You got to squeeze the balls to get the nectar.
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True, but many won't because they will be prosecuted by Russia. If you meet Russians that left during the war, you'll come to find that a significant portion of them actually can't go back home, due to pro LGBT or other views they've expressed.
The silence on this thread is deafening.
Incredible narrative control by the (((west))). Not only are we back to the topic of abducted Ukrainian children held in the Russian gulag, but we're even back to topic of Ukrainian Crimea. People literally died for nothing.
You got to squeeze the balls to get the nectar.
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That really was an epic moment when Putin got to experience liberal journalism first hand.
Anyway, no one really knows what to say at this point. Russia is pretty much just going to stay the course. Ukraine will continue to lose ground.
The EU might intervene at some point and risk getting hit by missiles.
Nothing new tbh. For the most part it seems as though WW3 will be avoided though.
No one has posted anything because nothing significant has happened or been decided.
It's all talking at the moment.
Yes and no. They died for (((something))) but that something was nothing in terms of having any benefit to those who died. The whole rationale for war is, "This will make your life better," when in reality it only makes (((Their))) lives better while making our lives worse. Again, it's a big club and we ain't in it. I'm just surprised that (((They))) can still get normies to fight and die in these uneccessary, for profit wars that benefit the few at the expense of the many. Like @It_Is_My_Time has been saying in other threads, it must have something to do with IQ where high IQ elites are able to use mind control techniques (marketing, social media programming, disinformation campaigns, advertising, etc.) to prey on low IQ plebes to get them to sign up for these endless, experimental wars. I mean, in 2025, how stupid do you have to be to either voluntarily sign up for, or allow The State to "force" you to go to the front lines of a war that is of no personal benefit to you, your family, or your country? Quite the opposite, They want us to go die in wars of choice (not necessity) for governments that have betrayed us and our people by refusing to name the jew (and instead calling them "victims"), while flooding our white Christian countries with muzzies, hindus, and various other non-white groups for cheap labor? Hard pass.
And this is how we know the war is existentially fake... There is no way that Ukraine has any skilled young men left to throw into the front line meat grinder. The numbers just don't add up. Nothing about this "special operation" makes any sense. How could Ukrainian men ever have had any hope of beating Russia in a war? 100% peak psyop clown world.
Truer words have never been spoken.
What does being kidnapped and literally just dropped off on the front lines have to do with IQ though? This isn't the covid vaccine where you can simply avoid taking it or go to another country. Their borders are closed for men. What would be the high IQ move here?
As for overall propaganda, it works worldwide, seemingly, regardless of IQ and even of race. Blacks in places like South Africa or Zimbabwe believing their countries will improve, if they kill or chase away most of the Whites. Somewhat secular Arab nations believe that fundamental Islam will bring them the progress they need, Catholic Croats aligning with Muslim Albanians and viewing Serbs as their enemy. The list goes on. And, unfortunately, most of the world has room temperature IQ in that regard.
They never did. The average Ukrainian man and especially woman simply never believed Russia would invade and thought that they were just bluffing. However, when the invasion / special operation happened I can even remember my female language exchange partner one day afterwards that she knew she had to leave and would not be able to go back for years. While my male language exchange partner immediately told me that they stood absolutely no chance.
Quite a lot as you have been checkmated by a higher IQ opponent. You just cannot allow yourself to get into such a situation. You have to analyze your local geographical/geopolitical "situation" months and even years in advance to clearly see the writing on the wall before the sh*t hits the fan. Things do not just collapse overnight and all of a sudden you find yourself blindfolded in a van headed to the front lines... ever here of thing called Maiden? Understandably, people like Coach Redpill never think it's going to happen to them and are reluctant to flee, but one's ego and attachment to "place" can often get in the way of objective analysis, thus leading to grave injury or death.
Well, unfortunately, they were wrong. But plenty of other Ukranians saw the months long build up of Russian forces on the Ukranian border and didn't take any chances and got out before it was too late. In situations like this, and given Putin's years long warnings that this was coming, it would have been best to err on the side of caution.
Back in the old RVF, well before the war had started, there was a thread about relocating to Ukraine/Russia to "raise a family".
I wrote that only idiots contemplate moving right in the middle of the next big battlefield and of course that post wasn't very well received. Why was I able to see it and not them? Is it IQ? I doubt it, because IQ is a flawed meassurment, it doesn't meassure discernment, wisdom, spirituality etc, it only assesses a small segment of the human mind.
I agree with every single thing you said. Thanks for elaborating.
What I will say though is that most people will always struggle with relocation, because the idea of radical change makes them feel uneasy. They then comfort themselves with some alternative narrative. This is even true for people stuck in relationships with the wrong person or not willing to move just to find work.
Obviously, the real "discomfort" starts when war hits and now those decisions of the past are irreversible.
I personally don't consider Ukrainians good women due to their politic views, somewhat strange stance on religion and their promiscuity.
Bit there's no denying that if someone is looking for a white woman desperately in need of a man and that will look past pretty much all flaws, as long as you have money, then Ukraine will be the place to look.
Apparently a Latvian stepped on a mine that the Latvians had set up to deter Russia from invading.
I wasn't sure whether to post it here or in the clown world thread. Baltics really are something else with their Russophobia. Even Ukranians that actually have reason for concern seem way more reasonable and rational. Baltics want Russians removed from Earth.
The page is Russian, so just use Google translate, if needed.
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I wasn't sure whether to post it here or in the clown world thread. Baltics really are something else with their Russophobia. Even Ukranians that actually have reason for concern seem way more reasonable and rational. Baltics want Russians removed from Earth.
The page is Russian, so just use Google translate, if needed.
В Латвии на "антироссийской" мине подорвался пограничник, сообщили СМИ - РИА Новости, 21.08.2025
Латвийский пограничник подорвался на одной из мин, которые власти установили для "сдерживания" России, передает Telegram-канал SHOT. РИА Новости, 21.08.2025
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Give the Baltics their due, they experienced the terrors of Soviet conquest in 1940 and reconquest in 1944. Over 600,000 from all three countries were executed or deported between 1940 and 1991. They were carved up by Nazi Germany and the Soviets (Molotov-Ribbentrop pact) without so much as a peep by the west until after WWII ended. Excusing the clown world koolaid that Europe chugs, they have every right to hate and fear Russia.
A report is out saying that Ukrainian KIA and MIA stats were hacked, and they have had a total of 1.7 million KIA and MIA. The hacked information supposedly has name, date, location, and next of kin for each of the 1.7 million!!
Ukraine's population before the war was about 40 million, although a large number have left the country as refugees. If you figure 20 million males, and 10 million of military age, then this is 17% KIA or MIA plus likely a very large number of disabled.
I would think the Ukrainian society is approaching the point where the number of deaths saps the will to fight. This is what happened to Western European nations after WWI and WWII. Their surviving populations became extremely pacifist. I expect this will happen with Ukraine as well.
I previously figured around 1 million deaths would be necessary to reach this point. I am amazed they are up to 1.7m! How much longer can this go on?
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Ukraine's population before the war was about 40 million, although a large number have left the country as refugees. If you figure 20 million males, and 10 million of military age, then this is 17% KIA or MIA plus likely a very large number of disabled.
I would think the Ukrainian society is approaching the point where the number of deaths saps the will to fight. This is what happened to Western European nations after WWI and WWII. Their surviving populations became extremely pacifist. I expect this will happen with Ukraine as well.
I previously figured around 1 million deaths would be necessary to reach this point. I am amazed they are up to 1.7m! How much longer can this go on?
🇺🇦🇷🇺 Ukraine has lost 1.7 million servicemen during the special military operation, these are killed and missing in action. by @MyLordBebo(Lord Bebo) | Twitter Thread Reader
🇺🇦🇷🇺 Ukraine has lost 1.7 million servicemen during the special military operation, these are killed and missing in action. The information comes from the database of the Ukrainian General Staff, which was hacked by killnet. 1/ https://t.co/QduW41ioP4
^It's about time some kind of confirmation was provided for the extent of Ukrainian losses, which has been the most important hidden aspect of this war. Ukraine's official KIA figure is 45K IIRC, more than 30 times lower than the actual figure. This info might help bring an end to the war sooner.
I would caution this could be fake data. It's a bigger number than I expected, but on the other hand I can believe it's true. It will be interesting to see if this is confirmed in some way.
You'd think that people would start checking the names that are listed and seeing if they are real.
This lends me to believe that the numbers are real. If that list were fake, it would be easy to dispel and it would backfire against Russia. However in a database of million plus people upi cam expect hundreds of entries, if not thousands to be wrong entries, so I suspect Ukraine will use these 0.1% errors to try to discredit the lot.
I also think the list includes a large number of MIAs, including deserters, perhaps around half a million, which accounts for its huge overall size.
Women turned into prostitutes, men caught off the streets, put in cages and sent to the meat grinder. The sooner this is over, the better.
"Some estimate this could be 35% of Ukraine women between 18 and 35 and produce tens of millions for the war effort off of "weaponized harlotry."
"Some estimate this could be 35% of Ukraine women between 18 and 35 and produce tens of millions for the war effort off of "weaponized harlotry."
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Even before the war Ukrainian were considered questionable in this regard. They were always Orthodox on paper but that's pretty much it.
The war obviously turned that into overdrive.
Ukraine was probably more Orthodox than Russia before the war.