The morality of piracy

Is using internet archive to access articles for free breaking the law?
This is a weird question. Some internet archives are free, in which case it is not breaking the law. Some have a pay wall, so if you violate their paywall then I think it would be breaking the law,

Actually I was thinking of legit archives initially, but I now realize that you probably mean file sharing sites. I just looked this up, and downloading copyrighted material for free from file sharing sites is illegal.


The unauthorized copying and distributing of copyrighted materials, including, but not limited to peer-to-peer (P2P) file sharing, is a violation of United States copyright law and may result in civil and criminal liability and prosecution.
 
Personally, I couldn't give two cares about the so-called laws of this evil empire. We don't live in the Eastern Roman Empire where synergy between the state and the Church is a given. We live in the end times.

Of course the best solution to never have to deal with the question of "piracy" is to never consume media content AT ALL, since it's all satanic or good mixed with evil at best. Why do you feel the need to watch movies anyways? Or listen to rock music? Or play video games? It's all meanignless distraction at best. They have no place in the Christian life and this is not legalism it's just normal Christian living.
 
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Personally, I couldn't give two cares about the so-called laws of this evil empire. We don't live in the Eastern Roman Empire where synergy between the state and the Church is a given. We live in the end times.
Where in the Bible is it taught that your responsibility to be a moral person depends on how good the government is? You speak about the Eastern Roman Empire as if it was some Christian utopia, when it was in fact insidiously corrupt. Not that it was uniquely corrupt. The corruption on both sides of the Roman Empire eventually led to their downfalls.

But for those of you who seem to want to wipe away Romans 13, you don't seem to understand that Paul wrote that even when the pagan Roman Empire was the law of the land and persecuting Christians. In comparison, you haven't even "resisted to the point of shedding blood."
 
The idea that piracy is justifiable because you are sticking it to the man/the Jews/the corporations/Globohomo by refusing to pay for their content is bizarre and nonsensical. It obviously begs the question: if these people are such malign actors that you can justify stealing from them, why in the world are you consuming their content to begin with? You refuse to pay them to poison your mind, but are glad to do so for free?

This is the real answer to the question of piracy these days: if you aren't interested in a piece of content enough to pay for it, then you shouldn't pirate it. Instead of pirating a bunch of goy slop content, go find something else to do. No one's life ever got worse because they stopped playing video games and watching a lot of television.
As my point above. I'm willing to pay but as a donation if the content is good. I am not spending my money on a first watch/listen only to find out it's some crap I don't want to keep. The entertainment industry wants people to pay full price upfront for a cat in a bag which can in fact be a pile of turds. F' that jewish scam.
 
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Personally, I couldn't give two cares about the so-called laws of this evil empire. We don't live in the Eastern Roman Empire where synergy between the state and the Church is a given. We live in the end times.

Of course the best solution to never have to deal with the question of "piracy" is to never consume media content AT ALL, since it's all satanic or good mixed with evil at best. Why do you feel the need to watch movies anyways? Or listen to rock music? Or play video games? It's all meanignless distraction at best. They have no place in the Christian life and this is not legalism it's just normal Christian living.
Paul didn't write the book of Romans under the Eastern Roman Empire with Christianity as the state religion. He wrote it under Nero.

Nero is the kind of government that the Bible says to obey.
 
Paul didn't write the book of Romans under the Eastern Roman Empire with Christianity as the state religion. He wrote it under Nero.

Nero is the kind of government that the Bible says to obey.
Nero's government is infinitelly better than what we have now. The ancient/pagan world was still based on Hellenic philosophy, meaning based on virtues and vices, and its laws punished evil and rewarded good behavior. We don't have that now. What we have now is a pedo-clique that protects and rewards deviancy.
 
As my point above. I'm willing to pay but as a donation if the content is good. I am not spending my money on a first watch/listen only to find out it's some crap I don't want to keep. The entertainment industry wants people to pay full price upfront for a cat in a bag which can in fact be a pile of turds. F' that jewish scam.
It's not even full price. Everything is a subscription scam nowadays and you end up paying many times over fair price and not even own a physical copy. As the saying goes: if paying isn't owning then sharing isn'stealing.
 
Nero's government is infinitelly better than what we have now. The ancient/pagan world was still based on Hellenic philosophy, meaning based on virtues and vices, and its laws punished evil and rewarded good behavior. We don't have that now. What we have now is a pedo-clique that protects and rewards deviancy.
I thought Nero's rule was known for being super decadent (one of his acts was to stage a "marriage" ceremony with a male slave of his where Nero cross-dressed as a woman to play the bride role) and he also was an active persecutor of Christians in the empire with some Christian writers saying that his persecution led to the deaths of St. Peter and St. Paul. Christians aren't exactly favored in today's culture but I don't think they have to worry about Keir Stramer ordering them to be burned alive in a Coliseum.
 
Nero's government is infinitelly better than what we have now. The ancient/pagan world was still based on Hellenic philosophy, meaning based on virtues and vices, and its laws punished evil and rewarded good behavior. We don't have that now. What we have now is a pedo-clique that protects and rewards deviancy.
I have seen the craziest posts in this thread! 🤯

Nero, who rounded up Christians and fed them to lions, was better than what we see today!?

Personally, I have never been fed to a lion as a Christian. Has anyone else here been fed to a lion? Has anyone even known of a person being fed to a lion?

In fact, Nero rounded up all the Christians in Rome, then tortured and executed them with lavish publicity. He burned Rome and blamed the Christians. He murdered his mother, brother, and wife. He had sex with young boys. You could go on for days about Nero, but in fact the entire Roman Empire was pagan, and got up to every kind of evil and oppression. They had orgies. They had slaves. The list goes on and on.

Have you not heard of all this? Do you really think things are worse today?
 
I thought Nero's rule was known for being super decadent (one of his acts was to stage a "marriage" ceremony with a male slave of his where Nero cross-dressed as a woman to play the bride role) and he also was an active persecutor of Christians in the empire with some Christian writers saying that his persecution led to the deaths of St. Peter and St. Paul. Christians aren't exactly favored in today's culture but I don't think they have to worry about Keir Stramer ordering them to be burned alive in a Coliseum.
It was even worse. He castrated the male slave and made him his "bride." He also used Christians as torch pitch. Con man's AI is out of touch with reality.
 
I have seen the craziest posts in this thread! 🤯

Nero, who rounded up Christians and fed them to lions, was better than what we see today!?

Personally, I have never been fed to a lion as a Christian. Has anyone else here been fed to a lion? Has anyone even known of a person being fed to a lion?

In fact, Nero rounded up all the Christians in Rome, then tortured and executed them with lavish publicity. He burned Rome and blamed the Christians. He murdered his mother, brother, and wife. He had sex with young boys. You could go on for days about Nero, but in fact the entire Roman Empire was pagan, and got up to every kind of evil and oppression. They had orgies. They had slaves. The list goes on and on.

Have you not heard of all this? Do you really think things are worse today?
Yes, things are worse today, because so-called Christians do not disobey the system like they used to do during Nero's reign.
Modern so-called Christians work so that they can watch modern day Nero on screen and listen to his music and play his video games. And then argue if they should pay for it or not. Bottom line: consuming any content today is a sin, paying for it is doubly a sin. What can I say, clown world has invaded the forum.
 
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I am going to close this thread if we can't stay on topic. I was hoping for some official Church teaching on the matter and discussion surrounding the morality of file copying/sharing/downloading.
 
Where in the Bible is it taught that your responsibility to be a moral person depends on how good the government is? You speak about the Eastern Roman Empire as if it was some Christian utopia, when it was in fact insidiously corrupt. Not that it was uniquely corrupt. The corruption on both sides of the Roman Empire eventually led to their downfalls.

But for those of you who seem to want to wipe away Romans 13, you don't seem to understand that Paul wrote that even when the pagan Roman Empire was the law of the land and persecuting Christians. In comparison, you haven't even "resisted to the point of shedding blood."
Bro, I asked a question earlier, can I read internet articles for free using internet archive?

Are you gonna avoid it?
 
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