This... So Trump spent 15 years as a fairly close associate of Epstein's and never picked up on any of this? Sure. We are under attack. Anyone who defends Trump after this recent Epstein fumble is willfully ignorant or complicit in the deception. Gents, it's time to go beyond the surface that is the Trump facade.
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This... So Trump spent 15 years as a fairly close associate of Epstein's and never picked up on any of this? Sure. We are under attack. Anyone who defends Trump after this recent Epstein fumble is willfully ignorant or complicit in the deception. Gents, it's time to go beyond the surface that is the Trump facade.
I think it's more Pam Bondi trying to cover up for folks. She probably told Trump there's all sorts of Russia gate fake stuff about him in there. I suspect more will come out on the Clinton connection to Epstein.
There's also money managers implicated with all the money laundering.
I basically settled for the fact a long time ago that all of our leaders are dirty serial, sex offenders. I’d be thrilled if they get rid of the illegal aliens, punish the companies that are hiring H one B visas, protecting the southern border.
I’ve given up on the “no new wars“ or “no more wars for Israel”.
Do we honestly think that Ghislaine Maxwell will provide information about the serial pedophile network run by Israel and Mossad? And provide a means to capture the leaders of the Mossad operation including stopping all of their sexual blackmail, and pedophile networks?
That’s about the only way she should get any sort of deal or clemency.
I’ve given up on the “no new wars“ or “no more wars for Israel”.
Do we honestly think that Ghislaine Maxwell will provide information about the serial pedophile network run by Israel and Mossad? And provide a means to capture the leaders of the Mossad operation including stopping all of their sexual blackmail, and pedophile networks?
That’s about the only way she should get any sort of deal or clemency.
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Trump is smart. He is trying to connect epstein to russia hoax. Confusing and making it seem they are the same type of defamatory actions by democrats. They are not.
Russia was a hoax. Epstein pedophile operation wasnt.
I keep hearing about releasing the list. “Release the list.”
I dont want to see the list. What I want is what any sane person wants. Pedophiles be charged and sentenced to long terms. If there are videos in act: death sentence. Cover them with lard and put them near dogs.
Now probably they cant lock them all. Because the state might stop functioning. That actually happens in third world shitholes. They jail so many officials on corruption etc the city hall shuts down.
But the most vicious ones need to fall and be locked down (dead) and the key be lost.
Trump most likely had sex with some 15/16 year old girls. He is a debauched sexual impulsive freak. To reach presidency he had to be. Truth be told if he had sex probably 50kms in another direction it would have been legal. Its stupid from him but he doesnt fall on the idea of pedophiles I have. Neverthless he gets 25 years for each act. And its still morally censurable. Those girls should be having normal boyfriends. Not an old age pervert.
The problem with all this epstein shit is: one Trump is clearly compromised and second much worse the image US gives to the world. A place where pedophiles are protected. And some kind of carte blanche to pedophiles. This is even worse than that orange idiot being compromised to jews.
Russia was a hoax. Epstein pedophile operation wasnt.
I keep hearing about releasing the list. “Release the list.”
I dont want to see the list. What I want is what any sane person wants. Pedophiles be charged and sentenced to long terms. If there are videos in act: death sentence. Cover them with lard and put them near dogs.
Now probably they cant lock them all. Because the state might stop functioning. That actually happens in third world shitholes. They jail so many officials on corruption etc the city hall shuts down.
But the most vicious ones need to fall and be locked down (dead) and the key be lost.
Trump most likely had sex with some 15/16 year old girls. He is a debauched sexual impulsive freak. To reach presidency he had to be. Truth be told if he had sex probably 50kms in another direction it would have been legal. Its stupid from him but he doesnt fall on the idea of pedophiles I have. Neverthless he gets 25 years for each act. And its still morally censurable. Those girls should be having normal boyfriends. Not an old age pervert.
The problem with all this epstein shit is: one Trump is clearly compromised and second much worse the image US gives to the world. A place where pedophiles are protected. And some kind of carte blanche to pedophiles. This is even worse than that orange idiot being compromised to jews.
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The cat is out of the bag that the people at the top of our government are sexual degenerates. Politicians go into their job knowing that the people will hate their guts. One of the reasons they want to keep this buried is that it doesn't look good on the global stage. It makes the US look weak that all of their politicians are bought, paid for, blackmailed, owned. They want to maintain deniability.
Shaquilleoatmeal
Protestant
Before you claimed Trump was tricked into sleeping with underage teens because he was told they were 18. Now you believe he knowingly did it?
As for the sentences, no one is receiving capital punishment under US federal law. However it is interesting how Trump was advocating for the death penalty for human traffickers. (Prostitution of anyone under 18 is automatically considered trafficking under US federal law.)
The only person making claims is you. That´s a weak form of argumentation putting words in other people mouth. You said...
Post the quote I say he knowingly did it.
Ghislaine Maxwell is in jail for sex trafficking. Fact.
Trump decided to cover up all of the Epstein/Maxwell story saying no Epstein operation ever existed. Fact.
These two facts are contradictory and cannot coexist. One of them is false.
Trump is lying. Wether he knew or not they were underage is irrelevant to the fact he is lying. Epstein was a convicted sex trafficker. Who disappeared. Because for Trump it was a hoax
I didnt say pedophiles would receive capital punishment. Jure contendo someone caught in the act or with unequivocal evidence should be sentenced to death. What I said was the most likely sentence would be 25 years for each crime.
Trump his a boomer. The cognitive dissonance and hypocrisy is rampant with them. A generation which in 20 years managed to destroy the west.
US leads and the rest of the world follows it´s lead. So protecting pedophiles is US leadership now?
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Shaquilleoatmeal
Protestant
I was referring to this post.
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That’s a strawman, I asked a question about your beliefs.
So what if @Dusty is correct and the people were duped into thinking the girls were 18? That should still result in capital punishment?
With Maxwell and Epstein sure because those were the traffickers.
After all the division and consternation Trump has been the source of on this forum he should at this point in time be held to a higher standard. A standard unto his own, to a right versus wrong Christian standard, not a standard in comparison to others... "Oh well, what? You think Kamala would have been better?"
Can we please start analyzing Trump with intelligence and objectivity even if this means impeachment or God forbid jail time? The guy is a lying crook. His whole life is one big scam.
Trump has always been an over-sexualized cuck for beautiful women. He doesn't drink, he doesn't read, he only has one noticeable hobbie (golf), and so his other hobbie and singular vice was to "grab em' by the p*ssy." Is it so far fetched that a guy who would "theoretically" date his daughter because she's so hot, is so obsessed with young, hot women that he actually bought and managed The Miss Universe pageant for 10 years, while being a friend of Jeffrey Epstein's for the better part of 15 years at the height of his predatory career could care less if a girl was 19 or 17?
Just ask to see a girls ID if she's anywhere near the illegal threshold (something I've done myself). But ultimately it is not so much about the age of the girls but how Trump takes things he hasn't earned and how he intentionally fumbled the Epstein files because he's in them (according to Musk). Trump has probably banged over 100 of the hottest woman in the world while being a fat, ugly, anti-intellectual retard with a ridiculously looking orange comb-over. It's just disgusting. At least when I was pulling hotties I did it broke and without status because I looked half way decent and was running tight game. These rich faggots like Trump just had to stand there doing nothing at the club with Epstein dancing in place and doing the white man's overbite while pulling the hottest women in the place. At this point who cares what their ages were plus or minus 4 years? The issue is that Trump is unrepentant and lying about who he is and what he truly believes about the world while claiming to be a Christian man of God. All lies.
Shaquilleoatmeal
Protestant
Our analysis on Trump will not affect him in the slightest. Feel free to call him a sexual degenerate or whatever everyone already knows he is.
Believe me I don’t care tbh but most people do, even more than if Trump cheated on his wife (which is a capital crime in the Bible.)
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Wether he knew or not the girls were underage. If he was framed or not it´s fucking irrelevant to the fact he is protecting a network of pedophiles.
So do you get to decide what another man has "earned" or not? Many women love Trump because of his success and confidence and he's far from being a "retard". Many men envy that. He's no saint nor has he ever claimed to be, but you just admitted to doing the same things as him so go easy on the guy.
My only gripe with Trump is that he's clearly allowed himself to be blackmailed by Jews. I am willing to overlook him sleeping with a 17 year old if he could just do the right thing. That's between him and God. In today's world there are no perfect leaders.
But alas he is compromised. With that being said, he could do worse and we're still seeing multiple positive developments in this country.
Sure. Why not. Especially for a guy who has rubbed his obnoxious "success" in my face since the late 80’s. Trump has zero talent. He is a trustfund nepo baby. Without that he would be nothing. He can't design suits and ties, he can't write books, he's not an architect or an interior designer, he is not an engineer, he is not a hammer swinging tradesman, he's not a producer of TV, he is not an educator... he simply hires other people with talent to do these things for him and then takes credit for their work by slapping his name on it. It's called stealing. Sure, Trump pays the people he steals from but that doesn't make it good or right.
Trump is average IQ at best simply because he doesn't read. I mean, how smart can you really be if you are not an avid reader? Trump's lack of knowledge is so obvious that I don't understand how this can even be disputed. Trump is a "regurgitator" with no original ideas or thoughts of his own. He is not a learned man. Sad.
I will not go easy on the guy because unlike me he is unrepentant. Trump is the type of privileged elite that will never admit a mistake, much less will he ever say the words "I'm sorry," "I was wrong," or "Jesus Christ is my Saviour." Absolutely zero humility. And please don't pull up the one time he said "I'm sorry, I love Jesus Christ." We're talking pattern recognition here. Trump, throughout the course of his life does not operate out of a place of reflective humility, he therefore does one good thing proceeded by four bad things. He is an atheistic materialist whore monger who only mellowed because of age (and because he almost took a bullet). In his heart of hearts he believes in "get all you can, while you can." This is not a man of God, and lying about being a man of God is perhaps his greatest sin. A Christian man of God would know that the jews are sworn enemies of Christ and therefore would have written an Executive Order that protects Christians instead of jews.
Yes. Which confirms his status as a compulsive liar as he cannot find the stones to speak one shred of truth on this very serious matter which is bringing American society to its knees.
I would postulate that the "positive developments" are an illusion to keep us complacent under the JQ paradigm of, "Give them one thing they want to their face, while taking two things away from them behind their back." I myself am seeing no real time changes on the ground. It's still the same. Everywhere I go in the US people are speaking Spanish, men are dressed like women, 50% of all women now have tats, gas is still on average $3 a gallon, the electricity always flows and all the stop lights work, I'll make more money this year than I did last, and Epstein still didn't kill himself.
What makes things worse is "going along to get along." We need men to start standing up for what is right regardless of the consequences.
This is by far one of the most self Important prognostications I've read in a long time.
These threads are turning into echo chambers and a bore.
Ehh , not everyone can make hundreds of millions of dollars on a long running reality tv show.
I hear what you’re saying,.
At this point, the only thing I’m convinced of is that people will be arguing about him for hundreds of years long after Trump is dead
All these things will be looked at in retrospect.
Presuming the guy is an idiot or something less than one of the most effective communicators is a total denial of his obvious charisma. And methinks a little jealousy by some who expect the Messiah figure only to be disappointed he's a man like the rest of us.
I’ll be disappointed but not really surprised if Trump really was a kiddie fiddler
In the context of the Republican Party, yes. He reinvigorated the party.
I didn't find him very charismatic when the election got stolen and I'm not finding his oration in regard to Epstein very effective.
No one criticizing Trump is disappointed that he isn't the Messiah. They are trying to red-pill those that do. The ones who do see him as a Messiah figure are the ones who support him with unwavering, unearned loyalty and can hardly ever give out an objective criticism.
The ones with this Messiah complex will also be the first to bow down to the false Jewish Messiah when he comes. The antichrist.
Put your hopes in no man.