Iran-Israeli Conflict Thread
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Western leaders ar absolutely obsessed with war.
Where have you been the last couple of years?
They are salivating at the prospect of war with Russia (and China). There is nothing they want more.
I was expecting six million homes destroyed
Definitely sounds like an inflated number, especially cause it's a metric that would normally garner public sympathy
I have a feeling she might just be her way if trying to get back in Trump's food graces after Trump made public comments counter signaling her and also to apparently souring on her privately as well. I am leaning more towards that the facilities were not destroyed.
www.washingtonexaminer.com
Gabbard: New intelligence 'confirms' Iran nuclear sites destroyed
Tulsi Gabbard's comments on the effectiveness of the U.S. military's strikes on Iran's nuclear facilities come amid a swirling controversy that raised doubts as to whether the facilities were damaged or destroyed.
www.washingtonexaminer.com
Then they’re dumb. That will be the end of their regime. War with China or Russia would be their downfall.
Happy pride month.
They're not just dumb, they're retarded.
Why do you think Satan let them reach that position?
I mean he has to be involved. If they dare they will lose their regional power. The Ukraine thing already costed them global superpower status and it looks like history is on again. End of history canceled.
Reason I say this is if we Americans get in a shooting match with China or Russia here’s what’s going down.
• China will fully implement belt and road initiative as we control the seas. They’ll just reroute all their trade overland. This will bring Central Asia away from NATO and more into BRICS. Belt and road is a godsend to the Stans.
• Taiwan will fall. No more incentive to keep it standing.
• there will be widespread dedollarization as foreign powers will be reluctant to put money into a saber rattler. Only place still trading in dollars will be US vassals. This will cause all dollars to flood home and create an inflation crisis.
• in addition goods aren’t flowing if guns are going. Most of the baubles that keep US standard of living high come from China. We’ll have a LatAm standard of living in weeks without that cultures family orientation, sensuality, or elbow grease. Welcome the world’s first post developed nation.
• The above will result in a secession crisis / civil war. Break away state - Neoconfederacy - will be a BRICs nation.
The powers that be who thirst for war will be out of the picture. There is no way they hold power after the above scenario. We’ll see a communist AOC style America and we’ll become as relevant as Venezuela. Or we get our equivalent of Mustache Man. Maybe the southern and some western states form a nationalist America and the coasts form a Communist America in a move right out of Chinese history, who knows?
However, I find Russia the lone wild card. They’re kind of inconsequential to the fate of America unlike China, but if they join China... We’ve already severed ties with them thanks to the Ukraine thing and they’re chugging along just fine without the West. Short of boots on the ground, idk what we can do to Russia. And if any of you know history, don’t put boots on the ground in Russia.
If Western leaders want war, then that war will cost them their west.
The Orthodox Nationalist: We Stand with Iran - TON 062525
Talk radio for the Nationalist community.
This seems a bit pessimistic. Maybe with Obama or Biden in power, but do you really think Trump join in?
I think he's proven otherwise so far.
Assuming it's true you think doing Satan's deeds somewhere in the desert will make me approve this lousy post?
I listened to this while working the other day and I thought it was good to provide a framework for this war so I summarized the youtube transcript into AI below.
Based on the detailed analysis in the transcript, here's a concise breakdown of the key geopolitical dynamics and potential outcomes:
Key Conclusions from the Discussion:
1. **U.S. Strike Effectiveness Unclear**
- Fordow facility's depth makes damage assessment impossible short-term; competing narratives (Trump's "success" vs. analysts' "symbolic failure") serve political goals.
- Evidence suggests Iran preemptively relocated nuclear materials (per Scott Ritter/Russian sources), making the strike strategically hollow.
2. **Trump's Motivations Beyond Israeli Pressure**
- While Zionist donors influence U.S. policy, Trump may have preempted an Israeli *nuclear* strike by using conventional weapons first.
- JD Vance's framing ("war with Iran's nukes, not Iran") allows the U.S. to declare victory and pressure Israel toward peace.
3. **Israel's Strategic Trap**
- Netanyahu cannot publicly refute Trump's "success" narrative without losing U.S. support.
- Mossad's intelligence failed catastrophically (regime stability, nuclear prep), exposing Israel's vulnerability.
- Critical infrastructure (Haifa port, refineries, power grids) is collapsing under Iranian strikes; censorship hides full damage.
4. **U.S.-Israel Power Dynamic Shift**
- Israel is increasingly a *tool* of U.S. interests (like Ukraine), not the reverse. Sacrificing Israel to weaken Iran aligns with long-standing U.S. vendettas (since 1979 hostage crisis).
- Iron Dome's proven ineffectiveness (e.g., Haifa strikes) undermines U.S. missile defense investments.
5. **Russia/China's Calculus**
- **Benefits:**
- Diversion of Western weapons/attention from Ukraine.
- Soaring oil prices if Hormuz is blocked (targeting U.S./EU tankers).
- U.S. diplomatic credibility shattered after Trump's deception.
- **Risks:**
- Nuclear escalation by Israel/U.S. remains a wildcard.
- Iran rejected mutual defense clauses with Russia earlier, limiting Moscow's obligations.
6. **Media & Escalation Dynamics**
- "One-crisis-at-a-time" media focus enables aggression in neglected zones (e.g., Russia escalating strikes on Kyiv).
- Iran's retaliation (e.g., selective Hormuz closure) will test U.S. intent: If Washington de-escalates, it confirms the strike was a political tool to box in Israel.
Critical Pathways Ahead:
- **Netanyahu's Endgame:**
Israeli economic collapse or Netanyahu's ouster/imprisonment is inevitable if attacks continue.
- **U.S. Off-Ramp:**
Declaring "nuclear threat neutralized" lets the U.S. push for peace talks, forcing Israel to stand down.
- **Nuclear Red Line:**
Any Israeli/U.S. nuclear use would trigger global realignment; Russia/China could respond asymmetrically (e.g., Taiwan pressure).
**In essence:** The strike appears less about destroying nukes and more about manufacturing a U.S.-controlled exit from the Israel-Iran war—while exposing Israel as a sacrificial proxy. Iran holds escalation leverage via Hormuz, and Russia benefits strategically so long as nuclear thresholds remain unbreached.
Who needs intellect when we haz da bombs.
You do understand it's incredibly easy to push your buttons right?
Someone has a different world view and they're automatically an uneducated boomercon?
Whatever you say comrade!
I have no interest in your approval. I wouldn't pretend to grovel at the feet of a contrarian such as yourself for approval.
I just have had experiences in this world clearly you have not had and such have formed my opinion of the world (and you) accordingly.
As far as calling serving in the military the work of Satan, I again think you have zero clue what you're talking about. I'll be sure to remind you that we pray for our servicemen in the Great Entrance. Maybe you've been to a church service before and can recall that.
On that note ....I'll be sure to tell my Orthodox priest he was serving Satan when he was in the military.
Again zero chance you're going around saying that to actual veterans. So I'm gonna stand by the keyboard commando comment. Sure you're entitled to an opinion... But it's less weighty than that of a unicorn fart.
Let me go one further. If serving in the US military is the work of Satan, is being part of a Muslim theocracy shooting at Christian Americans the work of God? Huh.... Kinda an inconvenient illogical argument you're making huh?
I'm sure Putin, between kissing the Quran, and welcoming in Muslims and encouraging multiculturalism in your beloved Russia approves!!!
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Trump going to bat for his boss again.
Anyone who volunteers to be sent on a mission to a foreign country is guilty as charged, especially when it's for the bidding of US. And I don't care if he was a medic, driver, cook. If you're there in a military uniform you're already guilty. I have a friend from Poland who was in Afghanistan. Poland wasn't attacked by Afghanistan, Poland had no business to go there, it wasn't Poland's war. The only reason these soldiers were there was to do the bidding of Satanic Rotchilds. It was utter disgrace and dishonor. Being a jewish pawn. If I weren't a Christian I'd expect him to off himself like in the old days. Ultimately he didn't come back the same because he was ordered to shoot children, yes, you read it right. So whenever someone who engaged in anything other than training and strictly defensive military action at the borders of their own country tries to justify their deeds I have zero tolerance for that person. No level of heat makes evil offensive moral. It's one of the ways soldiers try to absolve themselves from their guilt.
Strawman argument. Point a post where I approved him doing that. Putin kissing Qoran doesn't justify westerners shooting muslims in their country. If anyone you should go after jews who import them into US and Europe.
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Not quite ethically correct, but true in all wars America has been involved in post WW2, including this one. Incorrect in the sense that a case can be argued for involvement if a country is committing war crimes, etc. But with America it's pretty evident that the military industrial complex is in service to the supranational "hidden hand", ((()))?.
I've gotta say it's cringey when Americans say to veterans of regime change invasions of Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc. , "thank you for your service", and they accept the compliment. But I'm also aware it's a hard journey from hero to culpable, especially if you took the lives of others, but for a Christian a necessary one.
Anyhow, this is way off topic and ought to be the subject of a different thread.
It's a good essay, but lacking in philosophical, historical and religious analysis.
America is at a similar stage as Rome preceding the Fall of Rome, but thanks to a variety of factors including Christianity, has avoided a fall, and instead is making a quick comeback.
However, the biggest cause of it's degradation, erosion of culture through excessive immigrants and slaves... If not not exactly in the same way as Rome, arguably to a far worse degree.
With America's massive population, cultural heritage, movies, books and songs, it's a lot more resistant to cultural genocide, but the fact of the matter is that every Western country is having both their cultural and ethnic foundations attacked.
So for America to no longer act a Israel's vassal state, but instead a free agent looking towards peace, is utterly phenomenal.
It's a reflection of the fact that Christ is the Redeemer, not the Destroyer.
America's first act towards repenting and returning to God is to throw off the Yokes of Satan, not to destroy his servants, but to prevent them from causing a war that would only kill our enemies.
Neither Iran nor Israel are on the side of Christ, yet he still offers them mercy, such is his glory.
This entire state is being reflected in the cultural sphere. YouTube stars, actors, influential people across the board have shifted. People are more driven and determined.
There's a stark change in the atmosphere, as if war could break out at any moment. An inner conflict reflected outwards.
Trump cutting away the nuclear option could be seen as a metaphor for showing mercy. Nukes are indiscriminate, they kill everyone both in space and time. Poisoning the ground for miles and decades after the event. No mercy can be shown with modern technology.
I think this matches a desire of many today to be discriminate in targeting those responsible, and not to cut away everyone indirectly involved.
In the same manner, Trump is removing illegal immigrants, not legal immigrants.
However, this action relies entirely on the goodwill of legal immigrants.
They could still take advantage of this situation. It's not that hard to legally immigrate and the left still have influence inside the system, threatening to undermine it's virtues and values.
All in all, Trumps approach reflects the light of optimism, however, he had betrayed it by hiding Israel's influence in JFK's assassination, and Epstein Island.
He knows this optimism will die once the truth is revealed, such will be the anger of the righteous, and he is afraid of that.
So too, is God holding back his wrath, so that both we may have the opportunity to forgive, and our wicked enemies the opportunity to repent.
I say though, if they repent, we should forgive them, but the time will come where we have the choice to unleash that wrath. And I say truly to all of you, if they do not repent at that time, we not give them more than one chance to reconsider before we grant justice to the countless innocent children that have suffered at their hands.
Christ is King.
Amen.