Weather apps/forecasts

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I wasn't sure where to post this, so any mods please move it to where it needs to go if this is the wrong place.

Where I used to live had many bodies of water, but even there, the weather forecasts were somewhat reliable. Where I live now is in a region near both coastline and mountains, and it's a complete fiasco. This is my first summer here, and the weather forecasts are notoriously unpredictable, particularly rain forecasts, and it's a sentiment shared by many people here. We've had predictions of rain/t-storms for every single day since mid-July, and this week we're getting tons of predictions of heavy rain and massive flood warnings, but we have hardly had a drop so far. I'll see what happens for the rest of the week, but I wouldn't even be surprised at this point if we hardly get any rain. If we do, it'll likely be later and less severe than they said (i'll post an update later).

As someone who does not own a car but only a motorcycle, this pains me greatly. While my bike/tires handle perfectly fine in rain, I still prefer to avoid it if I can especially if its heavy rain, due to the reduced visibility, visor fog, and general discomfort. And obviously t-storms are a bad idea to ride in. This throws a real monkey wrench into my plans, not just social/business but leisure - I was planning to take a motorcycle trip this week but with predictions of heavy rain/storms/flooding I figured I shouldn't, but we're halfway through the week and it's barely rained at all. I'm furious to the point I am genuinely going to look for a lawyer to sue even though I know that won't go anywhere and I know it's petty, I am genuinely curious to see if they'll even take my case.

I really don't understand why weatherman/meteorologists are immune to accountability or criticism - what other field is shielded from this? I was talking about this with my friend and the mere economic impacts of inaccurate weather reports may be staggering. Why are they allowed to predict 90% chance of nonstop rain and t-storms for weeks in a row only for it to rain one day a week for a few hours? Why are they allowed to predict 100% chance of rain if it does not in fact rain? In my view, that means you should lose your job. 100% is 100%. There's a lot of shills who defend them saying oh its really hard, no one can get it right. Okay, fine, but my problem is they have the audacity to act like they know what's going to happen every time. If they said "50% chance of rain" instead of 100%, no one can get mad when they're wrong. The shills will also say there are biases here where we discount when they're right and notice when they're wrong. But man, if it's sunny and normal atmospheric conditions it's not exactly rocket science to make predictions from that and no one cares if it's slightly cloudly instead of sunny. Everyone cares if it will rain or not, especially farmers, or people like myself who rely on it to make travel plans, and I'm sure all sorts of recreational places like golf courses are greatly affected by it too. And it seems to me, at least where I live now, they are consistently wrong; it rains when they say it won't, and doesn't rain when they say it will. I think I'm about ready to just ignore them completely and use my own eyes - does it look like it's gonna storm? If so, stay in. If it starts raining when I'm out, then I'll just tough it out, and if it gets real bad, I'll take shelter. I'm done with this nonsense.
 
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Nice rant.

Beware the posters who will inevitably appear in this thread shilling for "Big weatherman". They are a known cartel with, as you pointed out, zero accountability. I applaud your desire to sue them. In fact, I think you should go a step further, and lobby for changes to the law to allow these rascals to be criminally prosecuted. Until they're regularly being sentenced to twenty plus years in the slammer, or possibly executed (let's not pretend they don't have it coming for daring to produce inaccurate weather forecasts!) they will never learn their lesson, and we will continue to suffer under their yoke.

TV weathermen. Truly the scourge of our time.
 
What weather apps and/or websites do you use to check the weather forecast? I never follow nor use the local news' weather forecast, Weather channel, weather.com, etc. They are horrible.

Personally, I have always used www.weather.gov website - National Weather Service (National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration) - for years. To check the weather forecast in your area: use Local Forecast field under the main navigation menu to the top left and just enter the zip code or location of your area.
 
Nice rant.

Beware the posters who will inevitably appear in this thread shilling for "Big weatherman". They are a known cartel with, as you pointed out, zero accountability. I applaud your desire to sue them. In fact, I think you should go a step further, and lobby for changes to the law to allow these rascals to be criminally prosecuted. Until they're regularly being sentenced to twenty plus years in the slammer, or possibly executed (let's not pretend they don't have it coming for daring to produce inaccurate weather forecasts!) they will never learn their lesson, and we will continue to suffer under their yoke.

TV weathermen. Truly the scourge of our time.
The economic impacts alone of consistently inaccurate weather forecasts have to be staggering.

I really don't get the shilling - why do people have a stake in this? It's really amusing to me.
 
What weather apps and/or websites do you use to check the weather forecast? I never follow nor use the local news' weather forecast, Weather channel, weather.com, etc. They are horrible.

Personally, I have always used www.weather.gov website - National Weather Service (National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration) - for years. To check the weather forecast in your area: use Local Forecast field under the main navigation menu to the top left and just enter the zip code or location of your area.
Specifically I was targetting weather apps/websites and weatherman on TV. However, I've used both, and though the NOAA is a bit less "dogmatic" and more conservative in their statements, they are often off the mark too, at least where I live.

There was literally a Youtube video from some news station I just saw that was saying we'd be getting a torrential downpour right around the end of the workday, and it's nearly 3 hours later and it's still not rained. I'm perfectly fine with them being wrong, what I'm not okay with is the complete lack of accountability when they're wrong and the arrogance - they don't say "based on our guesswork, we think this will happen" instead they say almost definitively, with zero hubris, what is going to happen as a matter-of-fact, as if their inaccurate predictions they just made last week somehow don't matter for their credibility. I'm convinced it's not even a science, it's just a series of educated guesses. It's the same reason why climate predictions have been consistently wrong for the last 100+ years - weather/climate is too chaotic to predict, so instead of pretending they CAN predict it and gaslight people who are skeptical, they should have some humility and stop making predictions with such arrogance. If you cannot make consistent predictions, then maybe the job is simply not possible to do and shouldn't exist, and we should stop pretending otherwise. This doesn't apply to some areas that have consistent and predictable weather year around, but in some places, consistently inaccurate predictions probably does more harm than good. So, they need to be held accountable and there needs to be reform.
 
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Specifically I was targetting weather apps/websites and weatherman on TV. However, I've used both, and though latter is a bit less "dogmatic" and conservative in their statements, they are often off the mark too, at least where I live.

There was literally a Youtube video from some news station I just saw that was saying we'd be getting a torrential downpour right around the end of the workday, and it's nearly 3 hours later and it's still not rained. I'm perfectly fine with them being wrong, what I'm not okay with is the complete lack of accountability when they're wrong and the arrogance - they don't say "based on our guesswork, we think this will happen" instead they say almost definitively, with zero hubris, what is going to happen as a matter-of-fact, as if their inaccurate predictions they just made last week somehow don't matter for their credibility. I'm convinced it's not even a science, it's just a series of educated guesses. It's the same reason why climate predictions have been consistently wrong for the last 150 years - weather/climate is too chaotic to predict, so instead of pretending they CAN predict it and gaslight people who are skeptical, they should have some humility and stop making predictions without any real degree of hesistancy or uncertainty - if you cannot make consistent predictions, how are you any more useful than a layman making predictions based on a coinflip, or consulting a psychic?
I know what you mean. Every now and then, I would see a weather forecaster predicting so-and-so today or for the week.

This is me every time, "Where is the rain?".

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I know what you mean. Every now and then, I would see a weather forecaster predicting so-and-so today or for the week.

This is me every time, "Where is the rain?".

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The worst thing is they keep shifting it to the later part of the day, or the next day, and it still doesn't come, then eventually they just concede and say "cloudy". It's so irritating how they can just wipe the slate clean every day.
 
An update: they were predicting, no, definitively stating with utmost certainly that we'd be getting a torrential downpours for the entire week, flash flood warnings, thunderstorms, even tornados. It barely rained all week, even have had stretches of sun for hours. And no wind whatsoever. They even sent out a severe thunderstorm warning for today and it's been sunny and calm the entire day.
 
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What weather apps and/or websites do you use to check the weather forecast? I never follow nor use the local news' weather forecast, Weather channel, weather.com, etc. They are horrible.

Personally, I have always used www.weather.gov website - National Weather Service (National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration) - for years. To check the weather forecast in your area: use Local Forecast field under the main navigation menu to the top left and just enter the zip code or location of your area.
StormGeo subscription through my work.
 
WatchDuty for forest fires. It updates fire boundaries well enough and posts gov't notices to evacuate almost immediately.
 
I’ve said for decades that being a “weatherman” or meteorologist is the perfect job. You can screw up constantly, be wrong 90% of the time, and you won’t be fired. As a matter of fact, you’ll still be considered an “expert”. 😂 In what other job can you get this deal?
 
I hate weather apps. Every few months I look for a new one to replace the crappy ones I have. They won't tell me it's raining, or they will be 10-15 degrees different from each other, or miss a "rain event" with 1% chance.

I hate them all! And yet I can't walk away :(

If anyone has one to recommend on android, I would be most appreciative!!!
 
I hate weather apps. Every few months I look for a new one to replace the crappy ones I have. They won't tell me it's raining, or they will be 10-15 degrees different from each other, or miss a "rain event" with 1% chance.

I hate them all! And yet I can't walk away :(

If anyone has one to recommend on android, I would be most appreciative!!!
There is definitely a lack of a reliable one for Android.
 
Interesting related fact:


NEW YORK--(BUSINESS WIRE)--E.L. Rothschild LLC, a private investment company led by Chairman Sir Evelyn de Rothschild and CEO Lynn Forester de Rothschild, today announced the signing of a definitive agreement to acquire a 70% interest in Weather Central, LP (www.wxc.com). The world’s leading provider of interactive weather graphics and data services for television, web, and mobile, Weather Central’s highly accurate and personalized forecasting offers businesses and consumers a truly unique suite of science-driven weather information products. The company will continue to operate under CEO and founder, Terry Kelly, as well as current management. Financial terms of the acquisition were not disclosed.
 
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