The Stefan Molyneux Thread

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Stefan Molyneux is a guy I like to come back to every once in a while.
You can like him or not but he is a huge advocate for abuse-free (peaceful parenting) parenting and in the last years he has talked a lot about Christianity in a very good light. Also hes time on twitter was hugely entertaining.


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I can also highly recommend his take on Matthew Perry's death with a small rant in the end about justified anger.
 
I first learned about Stefan in 2011 because he did a video answering a bunch of questions from the libertarian perspective. He was so eloquent, I was instantly hooked. I listened to him daily from 2011 to roughly 2016. In that time I worked my way through the entire works of Murray Rothbard, Ludwig von Mises, Henry Hazlitt and read many other Austrian economics books and libertarian works. I thought of myself as an anarcho-capitalist. I fully adopted those views and felt I had the edge on anything political.

That period of time in my life (well, actually this started in 2009ish, but culminated and strengthened with Stefan) I will call my intellectual vanity period. I listened to loads, I mean loads, of stuff during this time.

None of it made any difference in my life.

It makes me think of St. Paul's warning in 1 Timothy 6:20. To avoid irreverent, empty chatter and so-called knowledge. That's what Stefan is, or was, to me. He was a trap that ensnared my mind into empty chatter for years and years. I could have spent my brainpower developing a useful skill or learning how to live a Godly life. Either one, or both, would have been better for me. Stefan was simply my form of entertainment that felt better than watching TV or playing video games.

My goals in life now no longer include Stefan or people like him. I've seen and heard enough arguments to last me a lifetime. I am no longer interested in the argument. I am indifferent to people's reason and evidence. By the time I left Stefan I had a foul taste in my mouth concerning him. I saw him as a grifter. As a guy who made a living sucking people into this vortex of intellectualism. I could be completely wrong, I hope I am, but I know I did not profit from his instruction except for one series of his, "The Bomb in the Brain". This helped me to change my mind against spanking and I haven't spanked my daughter once. I think by refusing to spank I definitely increased the challenge level of my parental duties and I don't regret not spanking. So I have to give credit to Stefan where it is due. But I overindulged in his speechmaking and the long term result of it has not been useful to me.
 
He was warming up to Christianity the last time I heard from him which was a few years ago. Is this still the case?

It was actually from him that him that I learned the Tate brothers were millionaires and they had made their money from webcam girls. Below is the video where I learned about their business. I post it up not to promote the business but because the discussion that ensued on the effects of porn on men (funny enough Tristan is actually pretty anti-porn despite his business which he claims isn't porn) and specifically on how it's affecting romantic relationships.

 
thinkreadwritecode said:
I first learned about Stefan in 2011 because he did a video answering a bunch of questions from the libertarian perspective. He was so eloquent, I was instantly hooked. I listened to him daily from 2011 to roughly 2016. In that time I worked my way through the entire works of Murray Rothbard, Ludwig von Mises, Henry Hazlitt and read many other Austrian economics books and libertarian works. I thought of myself as an anarcho-capitalist. I fully adopted those views and felt I had the edge on anything political.

That period of time in my life (well, actually this started in 2009ish, but culminated and strengthened with Stefan) I will call my intellectual vanity period. I listened to loads, I mean loads, of stuff during this time.

None of it made any difference in my life.

It makes me think of St. Paul's warning in 1 Timothy 6:20. To avoid irreverent, empty chatter and so-called knowledge. That's what Stefan is, or was, to me. He was a trap that ensnared my mind into empty chatter for years and years. I could have spent my brainpower developing a useful skill or learning how to live a Godly life. Either one, or both, would have been better for me. Stefan was simply my form of entertainment that felt better than watching TV or playing video games.

My goals in life now no longer include Stefan or people like him. I've seen and heard enough arguments to last me a lifetime. I am no longer interested in the argument. I am indifferent to people's reason and evidence. By the time I left Stefan I had a foul taste in my mouth concerning him. I saw him as a grifter. As a guy who made a living sucking people into this vortex of intellectualism. I could be completely wrong, I hope I am, but I know I did not profit from his instruction except for one series of his, "The Bomb in the Brain". This helped me to change my mind against spanking and I haven't spanked my daughter once. I think by refusing to spank I definitely increased the challenge level of my parental duties and I don't regret not spanking. So I have to give credit to Stefan where it is due. But I overindulged in his speechmaking and the long term result of it has not been useful to me.
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If I could play Stef's advocate for a moment, based on the last paragraph you did well to spend all that time listening to him. As for the rest, "Not an argument."
 
I really liked his short, 13 minute, video, "The Story of Your Enslavement." You can find it on a number of different video platforms.
 
The guy gives me very creepy feelings.

This relationship with his daughter in which he presents himself as the ideal parent. He calls this "peaceful parenting".

If I would be that daughter I would try to get out of home ASAP. I remember seeing a joint podcast with her and it scared me.

Then pushing bitcoin always pushing bitcoin. And the cultish style of conversations in which he presents himself as the supernatural sage making autistic boys cry and thank him for it.

And then knowing he is a Jew. (Look it up on bitchute, "molyneux jewish")
 
Caduceus said:
Bill Burr has something to say about this guy
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Is the reason why Burr gives caveats and talks about things straight but then brings up nonsense like "racism" is because he's a public act, it's the general ethos, and he can't go too far (or to the logical conclusion parts) with cultural commentary/cancel culture? Or is it just all of the above and he's married to a black woman so he figures a few caveat statements can only help? Ha - he had a good imitation of Molyneux's bizarre accent, which is the weird, soft, out of place British nonsense.
 
paternos said:
The guy gives me very creepy feelings.

This relationship with his daughter in which he presents himself as the ideal parent. He calls this "peaceful parenting".

If I would be that daughter I would try to get out of home ASAP. I remember seeing a joint podcast with her and it scared me.
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What exactly scared you about his podcast with his daughter? Did you even listen to or read about what peaceful parenting is? Its basically just growing up your kids without spanking and yelling. What is scary/bad about that? The very thing you call I think "scary" is the same when normies see homeschooled, well-behaved kids with a good relationship with their parents and they think it scary, but when the daughter is on Tiktok all day twerking and the son comes home with makeup cause the teacher said its good, that normal. The bitcoin bit I agree with you. It annoys me as well.,
 
I like Stefbot and don't in any way regret the time I spent listening to him during my ancap days. Also met some of my best friends in life during those days, and set up my business for relative success.

It's beyond the pale to me, though, to imagine that corporal punishment would be off the table when it comes to parenting kids. I certainly never cared for Stef's insight when it came to families, since I seem to recall him going on and on about issues with his own parents. I don't relate to that, and it gave me the creeps in the same way that some other posters are mentioning about other aspects about him. So I just ignored it.

What's the quick pitch about not spanking and why does it seem like a good idea after thousands of years worked in the opposite direction?
 
TooFineAPoint said:
I like Stefbot and don't in any way regret the time I spent listening to him during my ancap days. Also met some of my best friends in life during those days, and set up my business for relative success.

It's beyond the pale to me, though, to imagine that corporal punishment would be off the table when it comes to parenting kids. I certainly never cared for Stef's insight when it came to families, since I seem to recall him going on and on about issues with his own parents. I don't relate to that, and it gave me the creeps in the same way that some other posters are mentioning about other aspects about him. So I just ignored it.

What's the quick pitch about not spanking and why does it seem like a good idea after thousands of years worked in the opposite direction?
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From what I remember, he cited a lot of studies that showed correlations between kids who were spanked having lower IQs and other issues I can't recall (Bomb in the Brain series). Essentially, every study he brought up demonstrated some rationale for it being harmful to the development of a child. There were also logical arguments such as "you wouldn't beat your elderly parent or spouse for misbehaving." There was also the libertarian argument citing the non-aggression principle and how spanking demonstrates or proves to the child that violence and the use of force are legitimate and if it's legitimate for a parent to use force against their child then it's also legitimate for a gov't to use force against its people.
 
thinkreadwritecode said:
From what I remember, he cited a lot of studies that showed correlations between kids who were spanked having lower IQs and other issues I can't recall (Bomb in the Brain series). Essentially, every study he brought up demonstrated some rationale for it being harmful to the development of a child. There were also logical arguments such as "you wouldn't beat your elderly parent or spouse for misbehaving." There was also the libertarian argument citing the non-aggression principle and how spanking demonstrates or proves to the child that violence and the use of force are legitimate and if it's legitimate for a parent to use force against their child then it's also legitimate for a gov't to use force against its people.
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I'm high IQ and my old man gave me the what for when I needed it....

With 6 boys, it's impossible to bargain with them on behavioral issues. Sometimes you gotta spank some ssses and put a little fear of God into them.
 
Spanking doesn't just come in one form, there are variables to consider. The manner in which my parents spanked us boys, especially my father, was damaging. It would invariably be carried out in a rage, we'd be rag dolled, no explanation would, or could, be given, because that requires coherent speech and we'd never get a compensating hug down the line. I shouldn't need to explain why that sort of spanking is a bad thing. Add to the mix a lack of any kind of praise. You get the picture.

As for Molyneux, I don't like him.
 
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