The Iran and Wider Middle East Thread

[It_Is_My_Time]

In terms of the middle east, the Presidential election does not matter. I've said this to you many times, 98% of Congress is AIPAC controlled, which means any President who stands up to Israel is immediately impeached.

Look at how Trump barely threatened sending military aid to Ukraine back in 2018, and it caused an impeachment proceeding against him. (He called Zelensky and asked him about Hunter Biden's involvement with Ukraine). Just the merest suggestion that the US MIC might be impacted causes impeachment proceedings over the tiniest pretense.

We will be lucky if Trump manages to get us out of Ukraine without being impeached. The idea that Harris will do so is laughable.

The guys you read are wrong. We will be in both Ukraine and Israel, if Trump loses, and since we will be strained, it will be used as a pretext to justify a draft since America will be overstretched.

The guys I listen to agree with you. That no matter who wins, the Middle East conflict will grow. They also agree if Kamala wins, we stay in both Ukraine and the Middle East. Whereas if Trump wins, he will wind the Ukraine war down, make a deal with Putin that in exchange for Ukraine territory that he has taken, that Putin will stop giving Iran military support. And then Trump will start to send those resources from Ukraine to Israel.

Trump's move would be a lot smarter, given these are our only two choices.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

Looks like Iran is putting out some photo ops to help build support for any attack they might do on Israel.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

 

[Pointy Elbows]

Yesterday, the Times of Israel reported that Ayatollah Khamenei threatened both the US and Israel for the last attack:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/khamenei-threatens-israel-and-us-with-a-crushing-response-over-israeli-attack/

"The enemies, whether the Zionist regime or the United States of America, will definitely receive a crushing response to what they are doing to Iran and the Iranian nation and to the resistance front,” Khamenei said in video released by Iranian state media.
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If I am reading the situation right: a) Since the Eisenhower Carrier Strike Group's departure from the Red Sea, no other US CSG has even attempted passage, b) Israel's last attack on Iran was unpersuasive (as no Israeli aircraft even attempted to enter Iranian air space and BDA is indecisive at best), c) Although the Lincoln CSG (and another?) made a brief Persian Gulf swing, they have stayed outside the Gulf for about a month, d) Iran has beef with the US providing air support to IDF aircraft during the last raid (some claim of protecting an air corridor), and e) US is rotating out the last CSG in region replacing "force structure" with B-52s and support aircraft.

I believe these are all reasonable statement of facts. The ball is now in Iran's court, and they are signaling intent to strike both US and Israeli interests. They've been cautious so far (getting much ridicule here and elsewhere), but their strikes are more effective than I thought likely.

Generally, and slowly, the US sphere of dominance is dwindling, and the Iranian (and proxy) sphere of action is expanding. There's a couple of key events for Khamenei to wait out if he likes (US election, US CSG departure, maybe some more gadgets from Russia) before he makes a strike decision, but he's telegraphing some things that the West just isn't getting (characteristically).

 

[RedLagoon]

Yesterday, the Times of Israel reported that Ayatollah Khamenei threatened both the US and Israel for the last attack:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/khamenei-threatens-israel-and-us-with-a-crushing-response-over-israeli-attack/

"The enemies, whether the Zionist regime or the United States of America, will definitely receive a crushing response to what they are doing to Iran and the Iranian nation and to the resistance front,” Khamenei said in video released by Iranian state media.
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If I am reading the situation right: a) Since the Eisenhower Carrier Strike Group's departure from the Red Sea, no other US CSG has even attempted passage, b) Israel's last attack on Iran was unpersuasive (as no Israeli aircraft even attempted to enter Iranian air space and BDA is indecisive at best), c) Although the Lincoln CSG (and another?) made a brief Persian Gulf swing, they have stayed outside the Gulf for about a month, d) Iran has beef with the US providing air support to IDF aircraft during the last raid (some claim of protecting an air corridor), and e) US is rotating out the last CSG in region replacing "force structure" with B-52s and support aircraft.

I believe these are all reasonable statement of facts. The ball is now in Iran's court, and they are signaling intent to strike both US and Israeli interests. They've been cautious so far (getting much ridicule here and elsewhere), but their strikes are more effective than I thought likely.

Generally, and slowly, the US sphere of dominance is dwindling, and the Iranian (and proxy) sphere of action is expanding. There's a couple of key events for Khamenei to wait out if he likes (US election, US CSG departure, maybe some more gadgets from Russia) before he makes a strike decision, but he's telegraphing some things that the West just isn't getting (characteristically).

Israel is phishing for nukes so they can nuke. Does Iran have them by now or is this all part of the game?

 

[MusicForThePiano]

The more I watch this, the more I see how it is all a loser's game to anyone involved. Whatever they do stay out of it all. Let the browns and the semites and the khazars and the shabbos goys destroy themselves. The more Christian Nationalists that stay out and grow large families, even in the looming spectre of orc invasions and starvation and immense struggle, will achieve much in that regard for not going into war.

Detach from the system, form communities, barter and trade, and grow from within. Obey God's laws and the laws of nature, and faith and strength combined will win, one day at a time.



Many of us here tout the collapse of the west as a good thing. I'm not saying it isn't, but you don't realize the level of physical violence this will bring on to young White and Christian children. Just wanting (((NATO))) and DC to fail in a sudden hot war or an economic collapse will lead to a mass culling, but it will not happen without some type of significant destruction to the East as well. Something about this whole west-east dynamic stinks, its just the entire paradigm of world geopolitics post-WW2 are all essentially on the same agenda one way or another. None of these political blocs matter if the European people are exhausted from this earth. There will be no golden age with these races, there will only be endless savagery until the second to last non-White human has his head smashed on a rock by the final non-White human who then dies in the wilderness of either stupidity or suicide.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

The more I watch this, the more I see how it is all a loser's game to anyone involved. Whatever they do stay out of it all. Let the browns and the semites and the khazars and the shabbos goys destroy themselves. The more Christian Nationalists that stay out and grow large families, even in the looming spectre of orc invasions and starvation and immense struggle, will achieve much in that regard for not going into war.

Detach from the system, form communities, barter and trade, and grow from within. Obey God's laws and the laws of nature, and faith and strength combined will win, one day at a time.

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Many of us here tout the collapse of the west as a good thing. I'm not saying it isn't, but you don't realize the level of physical violence this will bring on to young White and Christian children. Just wanting (((NATO))) and DC to fail in a sudden hot war or an economic collapse will lead to a mass culling, but it will not happen without some type of significant destruction to the East as well. Something about this whole west-east dynamic stinks, its just the entire paradigm of world geopolitics post-WW2 are all essentially on the same agenda one way or another. None of these political blocs matter if the European people are exhausted from this earth. There will be no golden age with these races, there will only be endless savagery until the second to last non-White human has his head smashed on a rock by the final non-White human who then dies in the wilderness of either stupidity or suicide.

Iran doesn't equate the west with White or Christian, neither does Russia or China. All the leaders have given speeches about it. They equate the west with satanic Zionism and that for their to be peace on earth, this satanic anti-human ideology must be crushed.

There are White Christians in Russia and Eastern Europe who will survive even if the west is completely obliterated. But the current satanic regime must be stopped at a minimum for those White Christians to survive. I don't know if White Christians in the west even have a fighting chance any longer, I hope they do, but it might be too little, too late.

Right now, the most important thing for White Christians is for the satanic Zionist regimes to crumble from within. Hopefully we will be left with enough to rebuild afterwards. But it doesn't matter what I want, or you want, what happens will happen. And the USA and Israel are guilty of committing seriously disgusting crimes and there appears to be a day of reckoning coming. I wish we could be a message to the Iranian leaders and let them know that most Americans are against a war with Iran and that if they can just collapse the USD and send our military running from the Middle East, that will be more than enough to ensure their victory.

I have said this before and I will say it again...

Only one of two things is going to happen...

#1) Whites retake the west, run a heavy majority of non-Whites out, and reestablish first world nations that have powerful enough militaries and a good enough quality of living that they can be defended.

#2) China needs our fertile land to feed their people, and it is just human nature to conquer. Right now China could take the USA, but it would be far too expensive and an exercise in futility. As the USA becomes more diverse, and as we put 90 IQ non-Whites in charge of things, and women continue to have serious mental issues, and China's technology grows while ours collapse, eventually there will be a point reached where China could take the USA with very little effort.

I still believe this is China's long term plan and the reason they have built empty cities. They will house some Whites as a zoo exhibit, because they have a lot of respect for Whites but at the same time see us as unable to adapt to defend ourselves from the third world invasion. My guess is they will kill off most of the third world people in the west and leave some for slave labor.

The most important thing we can do is resist our govt. sending our men off for a satanic war against Iran. I expect a 9/11 false flag style attack, and when the new immigrant class doesn't feel patriotic about, and Whites yawn, then there will be a military draft. We know this is the likely next step and we must be prepared to resist it.

 

[Thomas More]

#2) China needs our fertile land to feed their people, and it is just human nature to conquer. Right now China could take the USA, but it would be far too expensive and an exercise in futility.

I believe the Chinese could take Taiwan, and if the US tries to stop it, we'll end up with a lot of sunk ships. They would beat us in a battle off their coast. However, if China tried to invade the US mainland, they might bring a powerful force, but we would certainly beat them.

It used to be that if you beat the government armies, you could occupy the land, and the peasants would go on farming their little plots, the same as they had forever. If a conquering army could take a nation or a region of that nation, they could keep it. Now I think it is impossible to occupy another country with boots on the ground, unless you have an extremely high ratio of troops to occupied population, and you are prepared to commit genocide against the occupied population with heavy ongoing losses to your own troops.

Look at Russia and Ukraine. Russia likely can occupy and hold the parts of former Ukraine with majority Russian ethnic populations, but they don't even want the headaches of trying to occupy the parts of Western Ukraine with large anti-Russian majorities. It just doesn't work anymore.

I don't see China being in a position to defeat the defensive US military forces, then occupy and genocide the US mainland to hold it long term. Not even close.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

I believe the Chinese could take Taiwan, and if the US tries to stop it, we'll end up with a lot of sunk ships. They would beat us in a battle off their coast. However, if China tried to invade the US mainland, they might bring a powerful force, but we would certainly beat them.

It used to be that if you beat the government armies, you could occupy the land, and the peasants would go on farming their little plots, the same as they had forever. Now I think it impossible to occupy another country with boots on the ground, unless you have an extremely high ratio of troops to occupied population, and you are prepared to commit genocide against the occupied population.

Look at Russia and Ukraine. Russia likely can occupy and hold the parts of former Ukraine with majority Russian ethnic populations, but they don't even want the headaches of trying to occupy the parts of Western Ukraine with large anti-Russian majorities. It just doesn't work anymore.

I don't see China being in a position to defeat the defensive US military forces, then occupy and genocide the US mainland to hold it long term. Not even close.

I agree, but if there is one country that can afford a high number of troops on the ground, it would be China. Not to mention, that is to occupy the land. I don't see China trying to occupy our land and leaving us here as their subjects, I see them wiping most of us out. Why would they want us to live on? They are not soft kindhearted Whites; they are extremely logical people who see that we greatly failed in taking care of our responsibilities. Plus, they rightfully have hate for us due to the Opium wars and our shameful behavior in attacking their innocent people for the same Zionist forces almost 200 years ago.

Russia has no desire to kill out Ukrainians, they want the Ukrainians to survive, but to bleed the west dry. With China, they will be fighting an enemy they will both deem inferior to the point that they we are just wild dumb animals that cause them a lot of grief. If they are happy to kill beautiful animals like Rinos and Tigers just for their bones, I shudder to think what they will do to low IQ sub-humans who harassed and bothered them for centuries in a row.

I do see them letting some Whites survive, in their ghost towns, as both a zoo exhibit and also just a human record going forward. "These people used to exist, but time passed them by, they are now in our giant zoo and their reproduction numbers are controlled by us". And they might keep some non-Whites as a slave class to do slave labor in the west, but unlikely, they will advance technology enough to probably not even need human capital.

 

[MusicForThePiano]

Iran doesn't equate the west with White or Christian, neither does Russia or China. All the leaders have given speeches about it. They equate the west with satanic Zionism and that for their to be peace on earth, this satanic anti-human ideology must be crushed.

There are White Christians in Russia and Eastern Europe who will survive even if the west is completely obliterated. But the current satanic regime must be stopped at a minimum for those White Christians to survive. I don't know if White Christians in the west even have a fighting chance any longer, I hope they do, but it might be too little, too late.

Right now, the most important thing for White Christians is for the satanic Zionist regimes to crumble from within. Hopefully we will be left with enough to rebuild afterwards. But it doesn't matter what I want, or you want, what happens will happen. And the USA and Israel are guilty of committing seriously disgusting crimes and there appears to be a day of reckoning coming. I wish we could be a message to the Iranian leaders and let them know that most Americans are against a war with Iran and that if they can just collapse the USD and send our military running from the Middle East, that will be more than enough to ensure their victory.

I have said this before and I will say it again...

Only one of two things is going to happen...

#1) Whites retake the west, run a heavy majority of non-Whites out, and reestablish first world nations that have powerful enough militaries and a good enough quality of living that they can be defended.

#2) China needs our fertile land to feed their people, and it is just human nature to conquer. Right now China could take the USA, but it would be far too expensive and an exercise in futility. As the USA becomes more diverse, and as we put 90 IQ non-Whites in charge of things, and women continue to have serious mental issues, and China's technology grows while ours collapse, eventually there will be a point reached where China could take the USA with very little effort.

I still believe this is China's long term plan and the reason they have built empty cities. They will house some Whites as a zoo exhibit, because they have a lot of respect for Whites but at the same time see us as unable to adapt to defend ourselves from the third world invasion. My guess is they will kill off most of the third world people in the west and leave some for slave labor.

The most important thing we can do is resist our govt. sending our men off for a satanic war against Iran. I expect a 9/11 false flag style attack, and when the new immigrant class doesn't feel patriotic about, and Whites yawn, then there will be a military draft. We know this is the likely next step and we must be prepared to resist it.

Everything the Asian world has ever benefitted from in terms of innovations and advancements is sourced from the minds of Europeans. The original Chinese, far long gone, were light-skinned red-haired people. Nature will play out with them if they are to be the inheritors of the earth if the jews and the Whites are no longer dominant. Their plastic technology and ant-colony mindset to conquer for no apparent manifest destiny other than for an Asiatic version of jewish mercantilism will see a more placid and mundane world, though it may be bereft of extremist violence of one kind, will meter out a strict adherence to their collective in the alternative.

Who knows what the true purpose of their empty cities are for, but with the way their building contractors operate, the things are falling apart all the time. There is no ingenuity for stable construction in any of these places that is long lasting. The great wall was built by a more superior strain of Chinaman than the low-T drone that exists today.

My point is exactly resisting any and all calls to war. I do not expect any people will ultimately show mercy to Whites if they are the sole victor in the coming conflict. I would not trust even inklings of remote Chinese sentiments for European accomplishments to equate to them not wiping us out if they are victorious. They will likely enforce a miscegenation agenda in their folly of believing they would absorb the good genetics when in reality it just dilutes everything down further.

They will also only be victorious if they ever identify and remove everything related to the jewish power structure including their own uniparty and embrace their natural dynastic hierarchy that kept them free of it for millennia. The Manchus would have done this already like they did before.

All the theater in the middle east is just more run n gun cash n grab nonsense hyped up to cataclysmic proportions. There is too much money to be made for these parasites to let it all go to waste. The petro-dollar needs war to survive, and even proxy conflicts are keeping it on life support.

Our perspectives in 4 years from now, God willing we are all safe and still here to look back and see what we said either come true or begin to take shape, will be transparent. If the internal collapse of the west's infrastructure is indeed the catalyst that will cause Whites to save themselves (which I partly believe is true because all the comfort will be gone and most of the plugged-in Whites will suicide themselves) then the ability of non-White races to make decisions on behalf of the White race must also be removed, no matter who they are or how friendly they seem from a distance. People's true colors always show when there are more of them than others.

The whole DEI fag-filled military vs China / Russia / N Korea is a mutual destruction, chess pawns wiping out other chess pawns, a meat grinder for anyone involved, whether that's proxy conflicts in the Ukraine, or in the semitic blender of the Middle East. White Christians need to stay out of all wars and just focus on tribe and training, praying and having lots of babies. Nothing else. Let the system stooges come and stop them "you're making too many babies we need you to stop and go die in our wars" and then deal with a war of attrition against people that way. The more whites check out of the system, the better off they will be. It is a frontier again on all sides, the curtain is drawn, and the stage is set. Now it's all about who performs the best in their struggle to survive.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

Everything the Asian world has ever benefitted from in terms of innovations and advancements is sourced from the minds of Europeans. The original Chinese, far long gone, were light-skinned red-haired people. Nature will play out with them if they are to be the inheritors of the earth if the jews and the Whites are no longer dominant. Their plastic technology and ant-colony mindset to conquer for no apparent manifest destiny other than for an Asiatic version of jewish mercantilism will see a more placid and mundane world, though it may be bereft of extremist violence of one kind, will meter out a strict adherence to their collective in the alternative.

Who knows what the true purpose of their empty cities are for, but with the way their building contractors operate, the things are falling apart all the time. There is no ingenuity for stable construction in any of these places that is long lasting. The great wall was built by a more superior strain of Chinaman than the low-T drone that exists today.

My point is exactly resisting and and all calls to war. I do not expect any people will ultimately show mercy to Whites if they are the sole victor in the coming conflict. I would not trust even inklings of remote Chinese sentiments for European accomplishments to equate to them not wiping us out if they are victorious. They will likely enforce a miscegenation agenda in their folly of believing they would absorb the good genetics when in reality it just dilutes everything down further.

They will also only be victorious if they ever identify and remove everything related to the jewish power structure including their own uniparty and embrace their natural dynastic hierarchy that kept them free of it for millennia. The Manchus would have done this already like they did before.

All the theater in the middle east is just more run n gun cash n grab nonsense hyped up to cataclysmic proportions. There is too much money to be made for these parasites to let it all go to waste. The petro-dollar needs war to survive, and even proxy conflicts are keeping it on life support.

Our perspectives in 4 years from now, God willing we are all safe and still here to look back and see what we said either come true or begin to take shape, will be transparent.

Yes, you are 100% correct. The Faustian spirit only seems to be alive in Europeans. The desire to daydream and seek out adventure and push the boundaries, even if it means potential death. It seems only Europeans have this desire as a group of people. And due to this, Europeans have made nearly 100% of all modern inventions and discovers.

Which is why I said that there is still time for Whites to retake their countries and either run out the third worlders or make them non-voting 2nd class citizens and be able to take over and run the world again, which would be much better for everyone on the planet. We are not perfect, but we are not cutthroat and happy to kill off billions of "lazy people" either. But this time is running out. I would say in 20 to 30 years it will be too late for this to happen.

I don't believe the Middle East is just theatre, but I could be wrong. I believe Iran is seriously sick of the satanic west and means business this time. But, only time will tell if Iran starts to crack some heads or if they just talk tough and help our countries push weapon sales.

I don't see anything major happening in the next 4 years. Just the slow swirling of the drain. Now in 20 to 30 years when the west is no longer Whites and China has super advanced drones and we don't even have a military that can operate the equipment due to low IQ's, that is when things will get interesting. I'm glad by then I will be on my way out.

 

[Cooper]

...Only one of two things is going to happen...

#1) Whites retake the west, run a heavy majority of non-Whites out, and reestablish first world nations that have powerful enough militaries and a good enough quality of living that they can be defended.

#2) China needs our fertile land to feed their people, and it is just human nature to conquer. Right now China could take the USA, but it would be far too expensive and an exercise in futility. As the USA becomes more diverse, and as we put 90 IQ non-Whites in charge of things, and women continue to have serious mental issues, and China's technology grows while ours collapse, eventually there will be a point reached where China could take the USA with very little effort.

I still believe this is China's long term plan and the reason they have built empty cities. They will house some Whites as a zoo exhibit, because they have a lot of respect for Whites but at the same time see us as unable to adapt to defend ourselves from the third world invasion. My guess is they will kill off most of the third world people in the west and leave some for slave labor.

The most important thing we can do is resist our govt. sending our men off for a satanic war against Iran. I expect a 9/11 false flag style attack, and when the new immigrant class doesn't feel patriotic about, and Whites yawn, then there will be a military draft. We know this is the likely next step and we must be prepared to resist it.

China doesn't need the US to feed its people, it is already pretty close to being self-sufficient. Its population is currently declining by 2M last year, and that decline rate is going to accelerate, their population is set to drop by 400M to 1 billion later this century.



As well they have huge potential food reservoirs in Russia, whose agricultural potential is still not fully tapped, and Africa, where the potential for growth is enormous.

China is self-sufficient for essential food!Chinese farmers produce more than enough rice, wheat, potatoes, vegetables and fruits to feed everyone. In each category, China is the world's #1 producer. (see charts below). China produces 210 BILLION kg of rice per year! That's 150 kg of rice per every man, woman and child in China. Or, 1400 calories per day from rice alone! Add in wheat, veggies, rice, fruits, fish, chicken etc., nobody is going to starve.

So, where do these loonies get this talking point from? It's from China's massive imports of soybeans! But that soybeans is used to feed pigs and other animals. Worse case scenario, Chinese people can reduce pork consumption or substitute soybean with, say, sunflower seeds from Russia.Most of China's "food" imports are non-essential -- soybeans, dairy -- milk powder, tropical fruits, wine etc. (see next tweet)

 

[Cooper]

Everything the Asian world has ever benefitted from in terms of innovations and advancements is sourced from the minds of Europeans. The original Chinese, far long gone, were light-skinned red-haired people. Nature will play out with them if they are to be the inheritors of the earth if the jews and the Whites are no longer dominant. Their plastic technology and ant-colony mindset to conquer for no apparent manifest destiny other than for an Asiatic version of jewish mercantilism will see a more placid and mundane world, though it may be bereft of extremist violence of one kind, will meter out a strict adherence to their collective in the alternative.

Who knows what the true purpose of their empty cities are for, but with the way their building contractors operate, the things are falling apart all the time. There is no ingenuity for stable construction in any of these places that is long lasting. The great wall was built by a more superior strain of Chinaman than the low-T drone that exists today.

My point is exactly resisting any and all calls to war. I do not expect any people will ultimately show mercy to Whites if they are the sole victor in the coming conflict. I would not trust even inklings of remote Chinese sentiments for European accomplishments to equate to them not wiping us out if they are victorious. They will likely enforce a miscegenation agenda in their folly of believing they would absorb the good genetics when in reality it just dilutes everything down further.

They will also only be victorious if they ever identify and remove everything related to the jewish power structure including their own uniparty and embrace their natural dynastic hierarchy that kept them free of it for millennia. The Manchus would have done this already like they did before.

All the theater in the middle east is just more run n gun cash n grab nonsense hyped up to cataclysmic proportions. There is too much money to be made for these parasites to let it all go to waste. The petro-dollar needs war to survive, and even proxy conflicts are keeping it on life support.

Our perspectives in 4 years from now, God willing we are all safe and still here to look back and see what we said either come true or begin to take shape, will be transparent. If the internal collapse of the west's infrastructure is indeed the catalyst that will cause Whites to save themselves (which I partly believe is true because all the comfort will be gone and most of the plugged-in Whites will suicide themselves) then the ability of non-White races to make decisions on behalf of the White race must also be removed, no matter who they are or how friendly they seem from a distance. People's true colors always show when there are more of them than others.

The whole DEI fag-filled military vs China / Russia / N Korea is a mutual destruction, chess pawns wiping out other chess pawns, a meat grinder for anyone involved, whether that's proxy conflicts in the Ukraine, or in the semitic blender of the Middle East. White Christians need to stay out of all wars and just focus on tribe and training, praying and having lots of babies. Nothing else. Let the system stooges come and stop them "you're making too many babies we need you to stop and go die in our wars" and then deal with a war of attrition against people that way. The more whites check out of the system, the better off they will be. It is a frontier again on all sides, the curtain is drawn, and the stage is set. Now it's all about who performs the best in their struggle to survive.

Lots of sweeping generalizations and naive takes here, will refute the main ones later this week, perhaps in an appropriate thread.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

China doesn't need the US to feed its people, it is already pretty close to being self-sufficient. Its population is currently declining by 2M last year, and that decline rate is going to accelerate, their population is set to drop by 400M to 1 billion later this century.



As well they have huge potential food reservoirs in Russia, whose agricultural potential is still not fully tapped, and Africa, where the potential for growth is enormous.

They are declining now.

Do you know why their population is so large? Because under Mao, they were told to have many children so they would be ready for the next great war. This of course caused serious issue and they then went completely the opposite direction, having a 1 child policy.

My point being, the Chinese people will do what they are told. That is just how they evolved. And if China decides that the west is both too disgusting, and too much waste, and they have right to revenge, which will all come to pass eventually, then they will just flip the switch back on again.

I think the biggest reason we know China is starting to flex and is sick of us, is jeopardizing their relations with Israel to back and trade with Iran. China is starting to take a stand, they feel confident, and they are starting to lay the track. Iran's response to the west will be telling. I don't see Iran being allowed to reply to Israel without Russia and China approval.

 

[Cooper]

China has been on an industrial, economic and social ascent for decades now, they don't want to rock the boat, things are going well for them. Iran is kind of on the same path at a much earlier stage, they don't want to get involved in a destructive war either.

Related tweet:

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

China has been on an industrial, economic and social ascent for decades now, they don't want to rock the boat, things are going well for them. Iran is kind of on the same path at a much earlier stage, they don't want to get involved in a destructive war either.

Related tweet:

Yea, they are in no hurry, it will be another generation.

But if you have one society that has an average IQ of 105 and with third world immigration, the west has an average IQ of 85, it is only a matter of time.

Right now, they can attack us via Iran and North Korea and Russia, proxy wars and bluffing.

 

[Caduceus]

Very recent 2 hour interview with the son of Iran's last king (Shah), who might be king of Iran himself in the future if there is regime change.

 

[RedLagoon]

China can't be self sufficient in food, most of their grain comes from Russia (before the grain stack of Europe that was Ukraine) and they're importing a lot of their rice from Vietnam, China has almost a billion and a half to feed with less than half of the agricultural land of Russia which is @Cooper still not fully exploited and that's why China is dabbling in Africa to not become totally dependent on Russia like India and Pakistan seem to become.

 

[Cooper]

China can't be self sufficient in food, most of their grain comes from Russia (before the grain stack of Europe that was Ukraine) and they're importing a lot of their rice from Vietnam, China has almost a billion and a half to feed with less than half of the agricultural land of Russia which is @Cooper still not fully exploited and that's why China is dabbling in Africa to not become totally dependent on Russia like India and Pakistan seem to become.

Read my post above, your assumption is wrong.

China had a major issue with swine flu recently which meant they did import a lot of pork meat from Russia and Vietnam.

List of countries by wheat production - Wikipedia

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List of countries by rice production - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

List of countries by apple production - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

Very recent 2 hour interview with the son of Iran's last king (Shah), who might be king of Iran himself in the future if there is regime change.

I pray this never happens. I pray nightly that the satanic west is stopped in its tracks. That we stop spreading degeneracy, child transitions, porn, women's disgusting behavior, and the breakdown of family. I pray the men in Iran are both strong enough and wise enough to resist the temptation of becoming like the west. The first few years will be fun for them, before the bottom drops out and their countries end up like ours.