Small Groups

Maddox

Protestant
Heritage
Does anyone here belong to a small neighborhood group where men and women gather during the week to read Bible verses and pray for one another? I am currently part of a men's group, which can range from five to ten or more of us per meeting. The first part of the meeting is spent introducing ourselves and sharing our journeys to Christ. Following that, we discuss our weekly highs and lows. The final 30 minutes are dedicated to reading and discussing Bible verses.

In truth, it feels more like a support group than a Bible study. Driving home, I often feel as though I've just left an AA meeting. While it's beneficial, I had hoped for more Bible discussion and less personal storytelling. And while I like that people are honest about their struggles, I miss the deeper biblical engagement.

I desperately want to find a group which applies Biblical texts to current events, but there never seems to be an opportunity for such discussions. Our readings focus on living according to the Lord's ways, with little connection to political or social issues. And when I sense the slightest opportunity to do so, I get the feeling like it wouldn't go over well. Like it would be such a large transition from the light-hearted stuff we usually talk about, that the others wouldn't know what to do with it. My sense is that no one would be willing to call out the elephant in the room because there is this unwritten agreement to be positive when discussing scripture. And how can you be positive talking about draconian laws and invasions by other cultures into native homelands?

Maybe an outside book is the answer. If anyone knows of a good book by a Christian author that could spark these discussions, I'd appreciate the recommendation. Maybe that would give us a better excuse to bring up things like the societal upheaval in the UK.

I often sit there during these meetings and wonder what others will think of me if I bring up these heavy topics. Others might be doing the same. And maybe that's why no one opens their mouth about these things; because they are just as worried as I am about the repercussions of doing so.

I'd love to hear about others' experiences in their small groups and what you talk about. Are your groups co-ed or men only? I've been in co-ed groups before and enjoyed them, but my current church doesn't seem to offer any. So for now, the men's group will have to suffice.
 
Ideally, your local church would fill this need. I'm part of a few groups that meet weekly. I have Bible study once a week. It's not even my church's sanctioned Bible study, which meets at the same day but earlier in the morning, but there's some crossover. Since we do it at a cigar shop, it's mostly guys but we've had girls on occasion. Then every weekend, my Pastor hosts a study of John Calvin's Institutes. Some people have found it to be too challenging or cerebral, and while that wasn't our desire for people, you have to grow to learn. My approach with these two groups is largely the same. I enjoy following along with the program but I also like to be something of a foil, so people think about how to apply what they're reading more practically. Both groups also have some leeway with where the conversation goes, so you have moments where you can bring up stuff that's bothering you or what you're thinking about. The Bible study actually tends to involve a lot of political and social issue talk. We have some guys who are very smart and into that so we let it happen.

I've also recently went to a study of Thomas Aquinas' Summa that some Catholic friends of mine have every Sunday. I enjoyed it and am thinking about going again.

I think it's good for groups like these to have a focus, but to leave ample room for people to chime in. Too much focus starts to feel like you're being lectured at. Too little focus and the thing can become derailed. So there's a balance that everyone has to maintain.
 
Ideally, your local church would fill this need. I'm part of a few groups that meet weekly. I have Bible study once a week. It's not even my church's sanctioned Bible study, which meets at the same day but earlier in the morning, but there's some crossover. Since we do it at a cigar shop, it's mostly guys but we've had girls on occasion. Then every weekend, my Pastor hosts a study of John Calvin's Institutes. Some people have found it to be too challenging or cerebral, and while that wasn't our desire for people, you have to grow to learn. My approach with these two groups is largely the same. I enjoy following along with the program but I also like to be something of a foil, so people think about how to apply what they're reading more practically. Both groups also have some leeway with where the conversation goes, so you have moments where you can bring up stuff that's bothering you or what you're thinking about. The Bible study actually tends to involve a lot of political and social issue talk. We have some guys who are very smart and into that so we let it happen.

I've also recently went to a study of Thomas Aquinas' Summa that some Catholic friends of mine have every Sunday. I enjoyed it and am thinking about going again.

I think it's good for groups like these to have a focus, but to leave ample room for people to chime in. Too much focus starts to feel like you're being lectured at. Too little focus and the thing can become derailed. So there's a balance that everyone has to maintain.
Are there others in the group who talk about the same thing we talk about here? And how heated does it get when certain social issues and politics are brought up?

As much as I'd like to talk about this stuff in a group, I picture myself going off the rails and getting hot under the collar while the others stare at me in disbelief.
 
Are there others in the group who talk about the same thing we talk about here? And how heated does it get when certain social issues and politics are brought up?
Similar stuff. Sometimes people get mad but I've had people get angry at me before. The Church as a whole still suffers from polite society syndrome. And here I was thinking that the Church valued the truth over people's feelings.

But there's danger in falling off over the other side as well. I don't want to go to Bible study and talk forever about what Jew said what or which Jew did that. If it's relevant, I'll bring it up then move on.
 
I'm starting a couple of new groups this season, one of which will replace the men's group for a few weeks until it's over.

Both are co-ed groups, and while there are no beauties in the bunch, there are at least dateable women. One of them is pushing 40 but still holding on to her good looks; a Russian girl with high cheek-bones who I can tell was a beauty in her youth. She holds herself with such grace, the way she sits, her gestures, and the way she gives you all of her attention as you speak to the group. It really makes her stand out from the crowd of American girls.

As for the others, while none of the other girls are lookers, there is one that is in her mid-20's which I look forward to seeing. She's overweight, but has a fresh face and a warm, attractive smile, even for an old guy like me. It's been forever since a young woman smiled at me like that. I'm sure she's just being friendly, but nevertheless, it's almost like being 21 again to have a young woman smile at you like that. I'd never get this look or interest from a secular girl. I have to go to church to find it again.
 
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