Has anyone looked into this? I have looked into Thailand and Bali. Very low cost of living, people rent nice beach homes for like $600 a month, I'm sure you can buy it for less than 100k, probably 50k if I were to guess.
I heard the women are great too. Most of the "passport bro" types are finding wives in countries like these, where the women are feminine, respectful, nurturting, and don't ask for much. But that's not even why I'm doing it. I want out of the country, and love tropical climates, but can't afford most places so it seems like a no brainer.
I looked into Bali specifically and as a "digital nomad" it's not exactly something you can do. Most people do it illegally and "pay off" the right people - if it comes to that, so be it, but I'd prefer not to go that route. Getting a work visa does not sound easy let alone full citizenship, so "paying someone off" might be the only option, and if SHTF, it might be your only choice. Better do it sooner rather than later.
If anyone else is interested in this, please share your thoughts or insights. Thanks.
I'm not moving for the women, never have, I have no intention of ever having a family or even marriage. I would be completely content to give up women for the rest of my life if I had to make such a compromise. None of life decisions factor in women whatsoever. I only mentioned the women because it may be a silver lining since I know most men actually want to start a family.
There's no point in defending the west anymore. If I wanted to live with fellow whites I'd live in central/SE Europe like Poland or Romania but those aren't exactly practical options either. What else is left? I am also considering Japan, but, it presents its own unique challenges.
Property title/ownership is complicated for foreigners in Bali (generally they can only buy leasehold land and cannot buy freehold) and in Thailand foreigners can only buy apartments/condos.
Also in Bali, Thailand, Vietnam, etc prices have been incrementally increasing for years especially for those wanting to live the expat lifestyle. To live the expat lifestyle in Bali, Thailand, Vietnam etc at this point it's only moderately cheaper than the cheapest European countries (countries such as Kosovo, North Macedonia, Romania, Albania, Moldova, Cyprus, etc).
Although some people prefer the Asian countries for lifestyle reasons (the food, the climate, the beaches, the culture, etc).
If you're a digital nomad you can travel perpetually so I'm not even sure what you mean.
Asia is full of Asians. A lot of people don't realize this fact. Everyone is human indoctrination. Most of them don't speak english and almost everything is working against you. Language, Culture, Socio-economic differences, expectations, etc.
Southeast Asia:
Want to speak to someone? Me no speak English.
Want to talk about politics? Why Russia war, bad, good, i don't know, Hahaha, fight Ukraine, I don't like war.
Want to have local friends? You rich, I poor. You white, I asian. Big difference, me no understand you.
Want to meet some expats? Boomers, simps, wierdos, stuck ups, posers, bisexual white men; liberals EVERYWHERE.
Want to hang out with prostitutes? She just came back from 5 dollar indian gangbang and will start working you for your money immediately.
Want to start a family with a local girl? Sorry your tourist visa expires in 2 weeks.
Want to be left alone? Why you in my country if you no buy? You don't buy, just sit on beach. You bad man.
Want AC? Got to pay for the privilege.
Want to meet young girls? Same as hanging out at a high school in America.
Want to experience some religion? Go to a pagan temple like a moron.
Want to get something not found in a 7-11? Spend all day looking for it and talking to morons.
Want common courtesy? Sorry we run people over, cut in line and blow our nose on the ground.
Want a homogeneous society? Africans and Indians everywhere.
Got to have a plan.
Pick a destination, come for the activities, be prepared to leave, don't emotionally invest. The asians are not taking in white political refugees. They wouldn't understand if you explained it to them.
If you're a digital nomad you can travel perpetually so I'm not even sure what you mean.
Asia is full of Asians. A lot of people don't realize this fact. Everyone is human indoctrination. Most of them don't speak english and almost everything is working against you. Language, Culture, Socio-economic differences, expectations, etc.
Southeast Asia:
Want to speak to someone? Me no speak English.
Want to talk about politics? Why Russia war, bad, good, i don't know, Hahaha, fight Ukraine, I don't like war.
Want to have local friends? You rich, I poor. You white, I asian. Big difference, me no understand you.
Want to meet some expats? Boomers, simps, wierdos, stuck ups, posers, bisexual white men; liberals EVERYWHERE.
Want to hang out with prostitutes? She just came back from 5 dollar indian gangbang and will start working you for your money immediately.
Want to start a family with a local girl? Sorry your tourist visa expires in 2 weeks.
Want to be left alone? Why you in my country if you no buy? You don't buy, just sit on beach. You bad man.
Want AC? Got to pay for the privilege.
Want to meet young girls? Same as hanging out at a high school in America.
Want to experience some religion? Go to a pagan temple like a moron.
Want to get something not found in a 7-11? Spend all day looking for it and talking to morons.
Want common courtesy? Sorry we run people over, cut in line and blow our nose on the ground.
Want a homogeneous society? Africans and Indians everywhere.
Got to have a plan.
Pick a destination, come for the activities, be prepared to leave, don't emotionally invest. The asians are not taking in white political refugees. They wouldn't understand if you explained it to them.
I would likely live on the beach and minimize socializing. I love being a hermit. it wouldn't be for more than 6-24 months at a time most likely. Adapting to the traffic, grocery stores, getting services, landlords, etc will be the hardest part.
I would likely live on the beach and minimize socializing. I love being a hermit. it wouldn't be for more than 6-24 months at a time most likely. Adapting to the traffic, grocery stores, getting services, landlords, etc will be the hardest part.
Meh, the easiest part. The people make or break the experience. It's going to be hard to be a hermit because overseas you have put in 5 times the effort to entertain yourself. Its not like back home where you can lock yourself in as part of a routine. You'll get sad lonely much easier there doing that.
I would fly to either Thailand or Philippines. The experience will tell you everything you need to know about the region. If you want to stay in the region, the negatives you encounter will help you decide which country to give a shot next. There's marginal differences. Thailand and Philippines are popular for a reason. Thailand is all around an easy place to navigate as a tourist and a unique first time experience. The Filipinos speak English. Maybe the Filipinos have another positive, I'm not sure, I'm not a fan of them.
Meh, the easiest part. The people make or break the experience. It's going to be hard to be a hermit because overseas you have put in 5 times the effort to entertain yourself. Its not like back home where you can lock yourself in as part of a routine. You'll get sad lonely much easier there doing that.
I would fly to either Thailand or Philippines. The experience will tell you everything you need to know about the region. If you want to stay in the region, the negatives you encounter will help you decide which country to give a shot next. There's marginal differences. Thailand and Philippines are popular for a reason. Thailand is all around an easy place to navigate as a tourist and a unique first time experience. The Filipinos speak English. Maybe the Filipinos have another positive, I'm not sure, I'm not a fan of them.
As long as I have internet access and a beach I seriously doubt I'll get bored. But yes I definitely plan to visit Thailand before I even consider this more.
I notice a lot of talk about Thailand and Bali. I’m seriously considering moving to the Philippines if I ever lose my job and live on savings and rent money from my house in the US for a bit. Anyone have any experience with the Philippines? The thing that appeals to me is there is already some American influence and English is everywhere. I also like the Spanish influence. It’s closer to my own culture than Thai or Vietnamese culture.
Definitely want to visit first in case I hate it. Never been but I feel it would be interesting to live in a truly conservative society.
I notice a lot of talk about Thailand and Bali. I’m seriously considering moving to the Philippines if I ever lose my job and live on savings and rent money from my house in the US for a bit. Anyone have any experience with the Philippines? The thing that appeals to me is there is already some American influence and English is everywhere. I also like the Spanish influence. It’s closer to my own culture than Thai or Vietnamese culture.
Definitely want to visit first in case I hate it. Never been but I feel it would be interesting to live in a truly conservative society.
Filipino culture is interesting. I’ve never lived in the Philippines, but knew many Filipinos in the states. They’ve been a mixed bag, but most guys go there for the dating prospects.
I have a funny story related to that…There’s an older military guy I worked with. Guy is older than 70, only had Filipina wives. Divorced and has another lady over there. Used to be stationed there I believe.
One day I was bemoaning the dating scene in the US and his eyes lit up.
Next day he said his wife had a niece or cousin or something, and shows me her picture. She was 19 (I’m in my 30s for reference) I’m like thanks man, but I think a big age gap is much plus I don’t even have time to visit there long term.
Guy looked at me like I was crazy, said the age gap was nothing and totally normal. I was skeptical, and maybe it’s just the Western programming. Pretty girl too.
In previous years, especially 20+ years back, there was limited information freely available about these locations. People had little to no choice except to go and see for themselves. Nowadays, there is a LOT of information, including video walk-throughs, blogs, articles, and other sources online which can help to inform one's decision.
Some examples:
Re: scams including dating issues
Re: living
^ Disclaimer: I am not endorsing these videos or related comments. They are shared as some example resources to consider.
Keep in mind that many things you will see online tend to be polarising and one-sided because this garners more clicks and comments. Even genuinely-expressed positions like "Filipinas worship me, love love love it here!" Or "Phils is an absolute dump, hate hate hate it here" are likely to be somewhat biased either towards reinforcing someone's positive or negative experiences and unchangeable choices. This is NOT to say that they are wrong or misrepresenting their experience. It's more of a reminder to take every stranger's opinion (including mine) with a grain of salt, and to remember that every choice comes with trade-offs.
Depending on where you are from, it's likely that by staying in the Philippines you will experience a loss in living standards, health services, trust in people, etc... so it's up to you to determine IF the upsides (women? retirement costs? lifestyle?) do or do not outweigh the downsides for YOU.
Note that blogs and videos only offer a simulated experience. They tend to give people the illusion of wisdom, thus preventing them from taking action and reducing their willingness to take risks. Videos, as useful as they are, merely convey various types of information and knowledge but do not confer wisdom, which can only come from real, first-hand experience.
Before one gets on a plane, I still think it's important to get informed not just to help guide your decision of where to go, but also of what to expect about running errands, how to manage your daily needs, etc. This will help soften the blow from any unmet expectations.
With this in mind, I think you may be in for some surprises when you arrive. For instance, the number of single moms may blow your mind.
Based on a recent study by the World Health Organization (WHO), Philippines has about 15 million solo parents, 95 per cent or more than 14 million of whom are women.
Above all, I feel for the poor children there without a father around. Any man contributing to this epidemic, local or foreign, deserves worse punishment than I can share online.
That said, here is some important reading on the topic, for any single man seeking a serious commitment:
Cross post of mine from RVF in case a single mum in another country is being considered by an older guy for a relationship.
I have seen a few real-life occasions of men marrying single mums and it working out in the long run (i.e., men getting their own kids, being together for many years etc) in cases where the woman married and had a child when she was young. So I have to acknowledge that it is possible, and it does offer men perceived benefits e.g., a woman looking for reliability, who has some level of present day responsibility, etc.
However those are the few exceptions...
What I will say, above all, about the dating scene there also applies to other countries in South East Asia:
Be careful, and practice regular self-reflection, about the very common threat of being easily seduced by a woman's initial interest, niceness, and submission.
Many posters in the old Philippines threads on RVF and other Filo-shills online have for years made it seem like you just needed to be white and have a heartbeat, and you would get the movie star treatment as soon as you landed, and -- even more implausibly -- forever more.
^ Apologies to my wife for doxxing her with a candid shot of her asking for my number, but a picture tells a thousand words
Although I certainly recieved a lot of interest and investment during my various stays there, this does necessarily indicate that it would have been a good decision to use these early experiences as a reliable sign of ongoing compatibility for marriage, children, living together, etc. (This doesn't even touch on the issues of living standards etc.)
I need to get something off my chest, I hope you guys don’t mind. I just spend close to 4 weeks in the Philippines and I honestly can’t come to terms with how I feel. I’m not sure if I’m the problem, or better yet loser in this case, or people just lie about this place. The bottom line is I absolutely hated the country, I actually wanted to leave on day one. I’ll try to make this short.
Expectations: Asians, super friendly, speak English, catholic, conservative, top of the line women, tropical paradise.
My Experiences:
Atrocious infrastructure and slum cities. One main road going...
I need to get something off my chest, I hope you guys don’t mind. I just spend close to 4 weeks in the Philippines and I honestly can’t come to terms with how I feel. I’m not sure if I’m the problem, or better yet loser in this case, or people just lie about this place. The bottom line is I absolutely hated the country, I actually wanted to leave on day one. I’ll try to make this short.
Expectations: Asians, super friendly, speak English, catholic, conservative, top of the line women, tropical paradise.
My Experiences:
Atrocious infrastructure and slum cities. One main road...
^ There are additional points to consider in that thread on pages 4 and 5 among others.
Personal Thoughts
For me, well I have children now. So the idea of moving to a poor, third world country is off the table, because I know - despite the threat of globohomo in Western public education etc - that I can provide a much better quality of life for my kids in my own country. Even with the constant pressure of the industrial-medico system pushing endless jabs for my children (which I can continue to resist), the medical knowledge, technologies, and care available here is far superior than anything in these poor countries.
Yet if I was still single, I would look at all these factors differently. I have travelled a lot and understand how to survive overseas. Being single opens up so many possibilities.
Conclusion
Unless a man has a family in tow, or has other ongoing commitments such as caring for family members, there are relatively limited barriers to prevent him from travelling to the country he's curious about. Indeed, fortune favours the bold.
Now, only you can decide what is likely to be best for you - what conditions are essential or merely desirable to you, and what deals and compromises you're willing to accept. This applies to one's vocation, relationships, and environment.
Thomas Sowell may have been referring to socio-political ideology when he said the following words, but it is equally applicable to choosing a spouse and place to live: "There are no solutions. There are only trade-offs."
IIRC, the Philippines is the ONLY country in the world where divorce is illegal. As I understand it, it is impossible to get divorced unless you are Muslim. This may account for the high number of single mothers. I am NOT saying that a man should abandon his children, rather I am saying by forbidding divorce, the state is essentially leaving the mothers no recourse for getting child support, should the father abandon her. This is a serious underlying problem in the Philippines, as I do not buy the argument that all men are dogs who abandon their wives and children.
The issue is certainly more nuanced. For example, I am certain that all Filipinas know that divorce is illegal and many probably naively believe that getting married to a foreigner means a guaranteed life on easy mode, by Philippine standards. This may be an additional reason why they are so comely, accommodating, and doting on foreign men. Caveat emptor.
Has anyone looked into this? I have looked into Thailand and Bali. Very low cost of living, people rent nice beach homes for like $600 a month, I'm sure you can buy it for less than 100k, probably 50k if I were to guess.
I heard the women are great too. Most of the "passport bro" types are finding wives in countries like these, where the women are feminine, respectful, nurturting, and don't ask for much. But that's not even why I'm doing it. I want out of the country, and love tropical climates, but can't afford most places so it seems like a no brainer.
I looked into Bali specifically and as a "digital nomad" it's not exactly something you can do. Most people do it illegally and "pay off" the right people - if it comes to that, so be it, but I'd prefer not to go that route. Getting a work visa does not sound easy let alone full citizenship, so "paying someone off" might be the only option, and if SHTF, it might be your only choice. Better do it sooner rather than later.
If anyone else is interested in this, please share your thoughts or insights. Thanks.
If you are an American your currency would be stronger than theirs giving you more bang for your buck (no pun intended) so thats a perk, your money goes further.
Personally I wouldnt go to Thailand they apparently have the most people who have had a sex change, that bothers me, am I looking at a man or a woman?
Isnt Bali an Islamic country? How would that affect you as a non Muslim, better check that out first as you might be limited in what you can or cant do.
Personally I wouldnt live in any country as an Orthodox Christian unless there is a church I can attend, no church no go, not sure what you are?
As a digital nomad I dont see it being a problem going anywhere you can literally stay anywhere legally for 6 months on a tourist visa (work off your laptop) and leave, you dont need "permission"
IIRC, the Philippines is the ONLY country in the world where divorce is illegal. As I understand it, it is impossible to get divorced unless you are Muslim. This may account for the high number of single mothers. I am NOT saying that a man should abandon his children, rather I am saying by forbidding divorce, the state is essentially leaving the mothers no recourse for getting child support, should the father abandon her. This is a serious underlying problem in the Philippines, as I do not buy the argument that all men are dogs who abandon their wives and children.
The issue is certainly more nuanced. For example, I am certain that all Filipinas know that divorce is illegal and many probably naively believe that getting married to a foreigner means a guaranteed life on easy mode, by Philippine standards. This may be an additional reason why they are so comely, accommodating, and doting on foreign men. Caveat emptor.
Problem is we’re not going back to America if that does happen. I’m not being a boomer and looking for a trophy wife. I’m looking for an actual partner so life would be a bit different in the states. I’m not a rich 60 year old so she’d hate it here anyway. Cold, bland food, all we do is work. We’d have to do the two parent income thing. I’d rather raise kids there and send them to school there - and when they graduate go to America, make your first 100k and come home.
As for the single moms @Steady Hands, the place still has legitimacy laws too. So in a twisted way, the state sees them as “not counting.” It sounds harsh but our society lightened up and look where it got us? Winner takes it all for the men and pumped and dumped women who are sad. Because people are fallen they need the task master unfortunately. I wish people would be moral out of the goodness of their hearts but that’s not our world. We got no threats keeping people in line in the west. And from doing my research you can be in your 30s there and not have to deal with single moms. I have no kids, I expect Mrs Kaveman not to either.
With that being said I got two options - find a company that hires Americans or digital nomad. My goals for going over there aren’t to do the Roosh thing - honestly, because of of my Orthodoxy I’d have a hard time doing it and I can’t see it fulfilling. Imagine saying you spent the prime of your life with a bunch of Filipina bar girls in your 80s and have nothing to show for it. I’m sure it’s a good time . But if I did meet someone and ended up with a wife or girlfriend I’d like to be able to provide a middle class lifestyle for our family.
In previous years, especially 20+ years back, there was limited information freely available about these locations. People had little to no choice except to go and see for themselves. Nowadays, there is a LOT of information, including video walk-throughs, blogs, articles, and other sources online which can help to inform one's decision.
Some examples:
Re: scams including dating issues
Re: living
^ Disclaimer: I am not endorsing these videos or related comments. They are shared as some example resources to consider.
Keep in mind that many things you will see online tend to be polarising and one-sided because this garners more clicks and comments. Even genuinely-expressed positions like "Filipinas worship me, love love love it here!" Or "Phils is an absolute dump, hate hate hate it here" are likely to be somewhat biased either towards reinforcing someone's positive or negative experiences and unchangeable choices. This is NOT to say that they are wrong or misrepresenting their experience. It's more of a reminder to take every stranger's opinion (including mine) with a grain of salt, and to remember that every choice comes with trade-offs.
Depending on where you are from, it's likely that by staying in the Philippines you will experience a loss in living standards, health services, trust in people, etc... so it's up to you to determine IF the upsides (women? retirement costs? lifestyle?) do or do not outweigh the downsides for YOU.
Note that blogs and videos only offer a simulated experience. They tend to give people the illusion of wisdom, thus preventing them from taking action and reducing their willingness to take risks. Videos, as useful as they are, merely convey various types of information and knowledge but do not confer wisdom, which can only come from real, first-hand experience.
Before one gets on a plane, I still think it's important to get informed not just to help guide your decision of where to go, but also of what to expect about running errands, how to manage your daily needs, etc. This will help soften the blow from any unmet expectations.
The Dating and Marriage Landscape
With this in mind, I think you may be in for some surprises when you arrive. For instance, the number of single moms may blow your mind.
Above all, I feel for the poor children there without a father around. Any man contributing to this epidemic, local or foreign, deserves worse punishment than I can share online.
That said, here is some important reading on the topic, for any single man seeking a serious commitment:
Cross post of mine from RVF in case a single mum in another country is being considered by an older guy for a relationship.
I have seen a few real-life occasions of men marrying single mums and it working out in the long run (i.e., men getting their own kids, being together for many years etc) in cases where the woman married and had a child when she was young. So I have to acknowledge that it is possible, and it does offer men perceived benefits e.g., a woman looking for reliability, who has some level of present day responsibility, etc.
However those are the few exceptions...
What I will say, above all, about the dating scene there also applies to other countries in South East Asia:
Be careful, and practice regular self-reflection, about the very common threat of being easily seduced by a woman's initial interest, niceness, and submission.
Many posters in the old Philippines threads on RVF and other Filo-shills online have for years made it seem like you just needed to be white and have a heartbeat, and you would get the movie star treatment as soon as you landed, and -- even more implausibly -- forever more.
^ Apologies to my wife for doxxing her with a candid shot of her asking for my number, but a picture tells a thousand words
Although I certainly recieved a lot of interest and investment during my various stays there, this does necessarily indicate that it would have been a good decision to use these early experiences as a reliable sign of ongoing compatibility for marriage, children, living together, etc. (This doesn't even touch on the issues of living standards etc.)
I need to get something off my chest, I hope you guys don’t mind. I just spend close to 4 weeks in the Philippines and I honestly can’t come to terms with how I feel. I’m not sure if I’m the problem, or better yet loser in this case, or people just lie about this place. The bottom line is I absolutely hated the country, I actually wanted to leave on day one. I’ll try to make this short.
Expectations: Asians, super friendly, speak English, catholic, conservative, top of the line women, tropical paradise.
My Experiences:
Atrocious infrastructure and slum cities. One main road going...
I need to get something off my chest, I hope you guys don’t mind. I just spend close to 4 weeks in the Philippines and I honestly can’t come to terms with how I feel. I’m not sure if I’m the problem, or better yet loser in this case, or people just lie about this place. The bottom line is I absolutely hated the country, I actually wanted to leave on day one. I’ll try to make this short.
Expectations: Asians, super friendly, speak English, catholic, conservative, top of the line women, tropical paradise.
My Experiences:
Atrocious infrastructure and slum cities. One main road...
^ There are additional points to consider in that thread on pages 4 and 5 among others.
Personal Thoughts
For me, well I have children now. So the idea of moving to a poor, third world country is off the table, because I know - despite the threat of globohomo in Western public education etc - that I can provide a much better quality of life for my kids in my own country. Even with the constant pressure of the industrial-medico system pushing endless jabs for my children (which I can continue to resist), the medical knowledge, technologies, and care available here is far superior than anything in these poor countries.
Yet if I was still single, I would look at all these factors differently. I have travelled a lot and understand how to survive overseas. Being single opens up so many possibilities.
Conclusion
Unless a man has a family in tow, or has other ongoing commitments such as caring for family members, there are relatively limited barriers to prevent him from travelling to the country he's curious about. Indeed, fortune favours the bold.
Now, only you can decide what is likely to be best for you - what conditions are essential or merely desirable to you, and what deals and compromises you're willing to accept. This applies to one's vocation, relationships, and environment.
Thomas Sowell may have been referring to socio-political ideology when he said the following words, but it is equally applicable to choosing a spouse and place to live: "There are no solutions. There are only trade-offs."
At the end of the day, it's all just good ideas and talk until you hop on a plane and go somewhere.
After spending quite a bit of time in over half a dozen SE Asian countries during the last decade, I'd say just go for a couple of weeks to a month in whatever country you are interested in/is on the short list for moving. Do some research about the differences between the areas/vibes of the place and try to find a IRL contact through your network if possible.
Otherwise go volunteer for a missions group, even a Protestant one. Most won't care that you are Orthodox and will be at least a good access point to meet other trad folks (at worst there will be less degeneracy). A lot of them are set up so you do projects throughout the week but then weekends are free time so you won't be sitting around bored, looking for something to do. Plus you usually get to do practical things and help people so it's really a win-win.
Another point for all of the guys opposed to marrying a local for whatever reason, volunteering with Christian organizations is a great way to meet a girl from the US, Canada or Europe. Plenty of service minded young women go overseas to help with xyz ministry and meet a guy they would have otherwise never interacted with just because of proximity. Something to consider at least.
Only you can make the decision, but what do you really have to lose? If you go there and it's not a good fit, just cross it off the list and move on to the next country. If you exhaust the list then just head back to the status quo.
At the end of the day, it's all just good ideas and talk until you hop on a plane and go somewhere.
After spending quite a bit of time in over half a dozen SE Asian countries during the last decade, I'd say just go for a couple of weeks to a month in whatever country you are interested in/is on the short list for moving. Do some research about the differences between the areas/vibes of the place and try to find a IRL contact through your network if possible.
Otherwise go volunteer for a missions group, even a Protestant one. Most won't care that you are Orthodox and will be at least a good access point to meet other trad folks (at worst there will be less degeneracy). A lot of them are set up so you do projects throughout the week but then weekends are free time so you won't be sitting around bored, looking for something to do. Plus you usually get to do practical things and help people so it's really a win-win.
Another point for all of the guys opposed to marrying a local for whatever reason, volunteering with Christian organizations is a great way to meet a girl from the US, Canada or Europe. Plenty of service minded young women go overseas to help with xyz ministry and meet a guy they would have otherwise never interacted with just because of proximity. Something to consider at least.
Only you can make the decision, but what do you really have to lose? If you go there and it's not a good fit, just cross it off the list and move on to the next country. If you exhaust the list then just head back to the status quo.
Vietnam is a solid spot I don't see mentioned much, main issue is that it's a very secular society on the whole. But there are high quality women to be found who are willing to be led. There's a sweet spot you have to look for where they're somewhat familiar with western culture & can speak English but haven't bought into the degeneracy, leftist BS etc.
Guy looked at me like I was crazy, said the age gap was nothing and totally normal. I was skeptical, and maybe it’s just the Western programming. Pretty girl too.
It absolutely is Western programming. Our culture is programmed to make men miserable and settle for horrible women. Age gaps have never been an issue until the modern, Western way of living.
It absolutely is Western programming. Our culture is programmed to make men miserable and settle for horrible women. Age gaps have never been an issue until the modern, Western way of living.
. But if I did meet someone and ended up with a wife or girlfriend I’d like to be able to provide a middle class lifestyle for our family.