Relocating to Japan

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I have never been to Japan but its a place that interests my greatly based on feedback from relatives who have gone and from Japanese people I've met. Japan has its own problems as does every country but they have a lot of good things going for them. Enough so that I feel Japan deserves its own dedicated thread on the forum to discuss long-term relocation to Japan.

Japan has going for it:
-Low crime
-Honest people
-Very very low obesity
-Attractive women
-Decent food

It has a lot of negatives too of course as does any country.

I know a number of forum members have lived there so maybe they could weigh in with their thoughts?
 
If you're any type of white boy American (Canadians/Aussies/etc would be viewed similar) looking to put down roots in a new place, I'd recomend you stay out of any country where you can say "my father/grandfather tried to kill your father/grandfather".

When I was younger & naive I went to Italy thinking it'd be like that scene in godfather. In reality they hate Americans there because plenty of people are still alive there, who when they heard English being spoken on the streets they ran for their lives because that meant general patton was coming to work on them. I'd imagine Japan is the same. It'd be an immediate no for me. But for someone else it may be paradise.
 
Yet another "moving somewhere else" thread where there's a 95% chance that OP will never move to the place being discussed.

That said, any person seriously discussing a country they want to move to, should at least have visited it a few times, even if just as a tourist.
Also, the easiest way to learn a whole lot about a country you like is to get a long term girlfriend from there.
 
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If you're any type of white boy American (Canadians/Aussies/etc would be viewed similar) looking to put down roots in a new place, I'd recomend you stay out of any country where you can say "my father/grandfather tried to kill your father/grandfather".

When I was younger & naive I went to Italy thinking it'd be like that scene in godfather. In reality they hate Americans there because plenty of people are still alive there, who when they heard English being spoken on the streets they ran for their lives because that meant general patton was coming to work on them. I'd imagine Japan is the same. It'd be an immediate no for me. But for someone else it may be paradise.

I've never seen this happen, and I've been to over 60 different countries over the span of 20 years.
This includes Italy and Japan which I have been to both over 10 times each.
 
I've been quite a bit to EU on both business & pleasure, my experience is that in general they don't like Americans there. You'd be fine as a tourist, when it comes to integrating/doing business it's tough. Youtube is filled with street interviews "what do you think of Americans" all over EU talking trash on the US. I can't imagine Japs being happy to see people who nuked them asking where's the library.

Other than north Mexico, I've never had problems as an American anywhere else. Of course, Albania and Kosovo. A generally bitter, angry people but when they find out you're American they get happy & chatty. This was literally the street level sentiment of Americans over there -
 
I've been there and one comment is that even in the capital Tokyo the knowledge of English among young and old is zero! I was pointing at menus..

Remember when an old man in the train station was proud that he knew English at all helped me with directions.

I know of two Europeans who learned Japanese and spent some time there. One of which long term is a candidate for moving there. There are very few people in Japan who are not Japanese. White people in particular stand out in the crowd, I did see some rare examples there of white people speaking Japanese, quite cool.

I only went there once on a small touristic trip. Have very little interest in Asia but would go back to Japan, have some touristic things I still want to do there. Have a definite bucket list of stuff to do in Japan as on my short visit I didn't get to leave Tokyo.

It's an amazing place to visit but you need the language to live there (unlike other parts of Asia).

Actually I used to know someone who liked to go skiing there..
 
Of course, Albania and Kosovo. A generally bitter, angry people but when they find out you're American they get happy & chatty. This was literally the street level sentiment of Americans over there


I'm sure they love Americans. After all, we slaughtered our fellow Christians in order to prop up the fake Muslim country called Kosovo, by stealing it from Serbia. Kosovo even has a Bill Clinton Blvd. and Bill Clinton statue in Pristina. Sorry...I don't mean to derail the thread.

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Yet another "moving somewhere else" thread where there's a 95% chance that OP will never move to the place being discussed.

That said, any person seriously discussing a country they want to move to, should at least have visited it a few times, even if just as a tourist.
Also, the easiest way to learn a whole lot about a country you like is to get a long term girlfriend from there.
I completely get where you are coming from, but the thread is not for me or about me, I just felt there would be enough member interest for it to warrant its own thread. You are right I probably will never move there but there may be others on the forum that are interested in moving there.

I agree 100% always spend at least a few months visiting a country before you decide if you want to stay longer.
 
I know a couple Americans who lived there for a few years.

Japan theoretically is a very attractive society- although they too suffer from the Asian hive-mind. However, Japan is a country where a white Westerner will never assimilate. You need to become completely fluent in the language and self sufficient financially (and teaching English is a short term experience) to even have a chance in the long run. Japanese companies aren't passing up hiring natives to hire whitey.

Now say you do become completely fluent and self sufficient financially. You will still always be considered an outsider. Even if you married a Japanese woman her family won't consider you one of them. Never mind all the smaller daily situations you can find yourself where the legal system will side with the natives.

And in a SHTF scenario, the above dynamics will really not be helpful.
 
Asia from my perspective is swarming with white liberals, you can easily find literal hippies here to sing songs with. I figured that would be the case and unfortunately it’s true. The rats are the first to flee the ship. Of course for how much they claim to love Asian culture, where do they feel at home? Anywhere that caters to European sensibilities. In Thailand the place to be is Chiang Mai city, where I am right now. What’s in Chiang Mai? Lots of white people, of a specific stock. The type to avoid brushing shoulders. Of course they’ll make up some BS for why they like it for its “Asian” qualities.

What else was recommended to me aside from northern Thailand? Taiwan and Japan. I wonder why.

Im thinking of visiting Kyoto, Japan due to the English problem. The Japanese are White Asians so I definitely feel it would be an improvement to other Asian places. There’s a ton of YouTube videos about overwork, social isolation and other BS in Japan. Is it true? Probably, but it’s done in a subversive way. It’s actually extremely hard for white people to connect with Asians so the libs are trying to do this “I can relate to your emotional pain” thing to be the bridge. Once that’s done then comes the “diversity” and “rape culture” indoctrination. Apparently there’s “rape culture” in Korea, even though they don’t have sex.

So relocating to a place like Japan, you need to learn a new language. You need to accept that the honeymoon period will end and you will need grind for your shekels.

Since I’ve never been in Japan this is just speculative, you’ll be around white liberals. You may also always feel as an outsider.

Something not spoken about; it’s not just feminism, a lot of Asia feels communist in gender dynamics. There’s real gender equality. They don’t give a pass to women. If you’re a woman you will walk to the store to get yourself a banana if that’s what you want. No one is holding their hand here. Unfortunately with feminism this creates a matriarchy type situation where the women can become too independent, especially with the western influence.

I genuinely believe there’s an enormous effort to subvert Asia. It’s all mostly in money so it’s not too visible. There’s little signs everywhere. I was at a fireworks show in Thailand and the music host wished for a “borderless world”. I almost threw up.

A lot of locals claim that particular countries are “developing” on their own merit when they’re propped up by globohomo. A lot of these Asian countries want English to be more well spoken too, and it’s not for some practical reason. Luckily the locals couldn’t care less. They want them consuming English mass media I guess. They definitely push English in Europe from what I hear.

So imagine if there’s a push back? You’re a white man in Asia, indistinguishable from the white liberals around you, having sex with Asian women who make horrible comments about their own kind. Mr. Ching and the boys are tired of all the western BS and want payback. Something to think about.
 
I stayed months in Japan and the experience was great. Like mentioned previously, they don't like Americans. They will be polite since they're educated but it doesn't mean you will be accepted or liked.

Another important point not discussed is visa. How are you going to live there legally?
 
I stayed months in Japan and the experience was great. Like mentioned previously, they don't like Americans. They will be polite since they're educated but it doesn't mean you will be accepted or liked.

Another important point not discussed is visa. How are you going to live there legally?
They dislike Americans or they dislike all Gaijin?
 
I know a couple Americans who lived there for a few years.

Japan theoretically is a very attractive society- although they too suffer from the Asian hive-mind. However, Japan is a country where a white Westerner will never assimilate. You need to become completely fluent in the language and self sufficient financially (and teaching English is a short term experience) to even have a chance in the long run. Japanese companies aren't passing up hiring natives to hire whitey.

Now say you do become completely fluent and self sufficient financially. You will still always be considered an outsider. Even if you married a Japanese woman her family won't consider you one of them. Never mind all the smaller daily situations you can find yourself where the legal system will side with the natives.

And in a SHTF scenario, the above dynamics will really not be helpful.
I lived in China for 2 years, and it's the same thing there. The law will always favor the native population. You will not move up. You will not gain any power. You will be treated as a novelty. You will be the outsider. Of course, that's the way it ought to be. Remember that other countries do not have a parasite race in charge of their country. In these normal countries, nationality is based on blood, and the native population receives every benefit of their soil.
 
When in Japan, say hi to the new Miss Japan 2024, a Ukrainian born Jew. Enjoy the diversity!


Still at least Japan is more conservative than many other countries. At least they picked an attractive woman.

Some countries have chosen transsexuals or fat ugly women etc.

Just look at Miss Portugal and Miss Netherlands:


Just look at the miss universe Nepal

Miss Universe Nepal: Jane Dipika Garrett

 
They dislike Americans or they dislike all Gaijin?

It is known that they dislike outsiders (Gaijin), but I was able to get some intel from a Japanese girl when I was at a bar. She had a Thai friend who was more approachable. I was ordering my drink and they both were next to me so I started chatting with them. After a few drinks I was able to catch a little bit of the Japanese POV.

The Japanese don't like outsiders overall. But Americans are a special kind due to their huge presence/occupation (US has a massive Navy there). Most Americans are not well educated, specially young men. They dress horribly and tend to be a little loud. I feel sorry for the African American that is educated and suffers prejudice due to the majority. Same with Americans worldwide. They think we're all obese, wear baseball caps and dress in pajamas (or running shoes with T-shirts).

If a Japanese woman marries an outsider (I don't know if the girl was referring specifically to an American), her friends will cut her from their circle. I heard from an older navy guy that lives there; older women (40+) who are single and is too late to find a husband, will go to Yokosuka (near Navy base) to find an American husband. Most likely a Navy guy who's also desperate to find women.

Yokosuka has a horrible night life. A sausage fest. Kids thinking they're pickup artists, a horrible ratio (maybe 2% are women, and masculine), expensive drinks and curfew for the Navy.
 
Still at least Japan is more conservative than many other countries. At least they picked an attractive woman.

Some countries have chosen transsexuals or fat ugly women etc.

Just look at Miss Portugal and Miss Netherlands:


Just look at the miss universe Nepal

Miss Universe Nepal: Jane Dipika Garrett

A jewish girl becoming miss Japan is no different than black miss Helsinki. And her physical attractiveness (which by the way is questionable - just look at her beak) has nothing to do with it. The girl is, literally and figuratively, an alien.
 
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All right, time to set the record straight here.

Almost twenty years ago I intensively studied Japanese language and culture planning to spend the rest of my life there. It didn't exactly play out like that, but it was an interesting experience.

The vast majority of Japanese people are very friendly to white people and will be nice to you. You're unlikely to experience anything more than the most minor "microaggressions" from anybody under the age of 50. So you don't have to worry there. The language is not really that hard, there are few sounds, it's highly cohesive and internally consistent, and really the only hard part is the large number of Chinese characters you need to pick up to become fluent, although the most commonly used characters don't take that long to learn. Working through college level textbooks you can be close to fluent in a few years, like I did.

However, this is very different from assimilating into Japanese culture. You won't. You'll always stick out. This is almost never because Japanese people are trying to exclude you, but the way Japanese think is very distinct, very eastern, and it's not something you get from book learning. This causes invisible barriers making it hard to form deep friendships and relationships in general, especially with normal Japanese people who aren't all starry-eyed about the West. It's this latter category that will likely make up most of your Japanese friends - and potential love interests - thus giving you a skewed perspective from people not really representative of the norm. The western fanboy/girl also tends to get pretty annoying after a while. Not coincidentally, lots of white guy-Japanese woman marriages don't go so well.

Many things said about Japan are true - high social trust, low crime, low degeneracy/conservative culture, and all that. Could be a good place to be when things go south. On the surface, you can live an enjoyable, comfortable life in Japan, but attaining depth and a true sense of belonging there is challenging and usually not possible for most westerners. "Rootedness," as Simone Weil described it, a fundamental but rarely recognized human need, will evade you. This is why most long-term resident Westerners in Japan tend to be miserable, drunk, and/or largely detached from Japanese culture and almost always resort to living in a bubble with other foreigners. This can be a legitimate survival strategy, but bad for prolonged periods. Being rooted as a foreigner in Japan isn't totally impossible, but it's quite unlikely, so don't bank on it.

Japan is also a spiritual vacuum, an incredibly materialistic place where people have been catechized ever since the post-war period out of any contemplation of higher things in favor of riches, stuff, achievement, and the various passions. As a Christian you will often feel alone, even if you attend some church and have Christian friends there. So that's something else to be aware of.

Also, Japanese women are very overrated. You see the prettiest examples in entertainment and media, just like anywhere else, and the average girl, though less fat than her western counterparts, is not as dazzling as you may expect, and have picked up various negative behavioral attributes through osmosis from western entertainment, which Japanese women absolutely love. Beyond all that, you'll run into big issues with non-verbal communication and things like that. I ended up marrying a (white) Brazilian. I suggest you do that instead.
 
You could go for the best of both worlds and marry a Japanese Brazilian ;-)

In all seriousness though I have not been to Brazil but having spent time in Chile, Peru, Mexico and Colombia I feel I have got a bit of a taste for the South/Central American culture.

I feel that its exceedingly difficult to find a decent woman in those countries because people are uncivilized and generally don't behave like decent human beings. They lack morals or honour. Japanese people on the other hand despite their lack of religion are very civilised (of course they have their flaws too like people in all countries do).
 
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