Pavel Durov the owner of Telegram arrested in France

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Sorry to trouble you guys again, I'm wishing I'd done something about it earlier, but all this Telegram discussion is currently spread across this "Internet Censorship" thread and the "French Politics" thread, is becoming a mess. Both discussions are growing. It needed its own thread and I fear that the topic might explode rather than go away quietly. Wish it would just go away quietly but it's an important part of the information war and the warmongers are not really backing down. Trying to address the mess and disorder by creating a single thread for it here. If you have the time, can you bring the posts from the other two threads across..
 
@Samseau
@Thefinalepic
@scorpion
Sorry to trouble you guys again, I'm wishing I'd done something about it earlier, but all this Telegram discussion is currently spread across this "Internet Censorship" thread and the "French Politics" thread, is becoming a mess. Both discussions are growing. It needed its own thread and I fear that the topic might explode rather than go away quietly. Wish it would just go away quietly but it's an important part of the information war and the warmongers are not really backing down. Trying to address the mess and disorder by creating a single thread for it here. If you have the time, can you bring the posts from the other two threads across..
What crime did the Telegram owner commit to get arrested in France?
 
I think the main trigger was him allowing channels to exist on Telegram, which were/are posting information hacked from israeli intelligence sources.
What information was posted would be interesting to see that info.

Amazing how the facebook owner is never arrested since so many mass shooters have used facebook and posted stuff on facebook before doing the murders, I never hear of Telegram or GAB having mass shooters on their platforms can you imagine if they did.
 
Statement from Durov:

❤️ Thanks everyone for your support and love!

Last month I got interviewed by police for 4 days after arriving in Paris. I was told I may be personally responsible for other people’s illegal use of Telegram, because the French authorities didn’t receive responses from Telegram.
This was surprising for several reasons:

1. Telegram has an official representative in the EU that accepts and replies to EU requests. Its email address has been publicly available for anyone in the EU who googles “Telegram EU address for law enforcement”.

2. The French authorities had numerous ways to reach me to request assistance. As a French citizen, I was a frequent guest at the French consulate in Dubai. A while ago, when asked, I personally helped them establish a hotline with Telegram to deal with the threat of terrorism in France.

3. If a country is unhappy with an internet service, the established practice is to start a legal action against the service itself. Using laws from the pre-smartphone era to charge a CEO with crimes committed by third parties on the platform he manages is a misguided approach. Building technology is hard enough as it is. No innovator will ever build new tools if they know they can be personally held responsible for potential abuse of those tools.
Establishing the right balance between privacy and security is not easy. You have to reconcile privacy laws with law enforcement requirements, and local laws with EU laws. You have to take into account technological limitations. As a platform, you want your processes to be consistent globally, while also ensuring they are not abused in countries with weak rule of law. We’ve been committed to engaging with regulators to find the right balance. Yes, we stand by our principles: our experience is shaped by our mission to protect our users in authoritarian regimes. But we’ve always been open to dialogue.

Sometimes we can’t agree with a country’s regulator on the right balance between privacy and security. In those cases, we are ready to leave that country. We've done it many times. When Russia demanded we hand over “encryption keys” to enable surveillance, we refused — and Telegram got banned in Russia. When Iran demanded we block channels of peaceful protesters, we refused — and Telegram got banned in Iran. We are prepared to leave markets that aren’t compatible with our principles, because we are not doing this for money. We are driven by the intention to bring good and defend the basic rights of people, particularly in places where these rights are violated.

All of that does not mean Telegram is perfect. Even the fact that authorities could be confused by where to send requests is something that we should improve. But the claims in some media that Telegram is some sort of anarchic paradise are absolutely untrue. We take down millions of harmful posts and channels every day. We publish daily transparency reports (like this or this ). We have direct hotlines with NGOs to process urgent moderation requests faster.

However, we hear voices saying that it’s not enough. Telegram’s abrupt increase in user count to 950M caused growing pains that made it easier for criminals to abuse our platform. That’s why I made it my personal goal to ensure we significantly improve things in this regard. We’ve already started that process internally, and I will share more details on our progress with you very soon.
I hope that the events of August will result in making Telegram — and the social networking industry as a whole — safer and stronger. Thanks again for your love and memes 🙏
 
Statement from Durov:

However, we hear voices saying that it’s not enough. Telegram’s abrupt increase in user count to 950M caused growing pains that made it easier for criminals to abuse our platform. That’s why I made it my personal goal to ensure we significantly improve things in this regard. We’ve already started that process internally, and I will share more details on our progress with you very soon.

Let me guess....
A new "user standards, content oversight, channel safety, identity verification, and data collection team" run by a (((trusted group))).
 
Typical woman: gimme your wealth, because you gave me the hot salame injection at some time in the past.
Now she's on a hardship tour, from her secret location in Switzerland.
Oh, the humanity!


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Hopefully having my telephone number registered in another country and using VPN will provide some protection. Granted I'm not a real troublemaker, but these days, who knows what is "illegal" anymore.
 
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