Normiecon Responses to the Isreal-Hamas War

I couldn't hear more than 30secs of that drivel, is this guy for real? Gross.
The most recent podcast of Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec had a decent interview with Dr. Taylor Marshall which explained the origin and history of dispensationalism, a doctrine with a lot of followers in American evangelical Christianity and apparently Mormonism as well.

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-human-events-with-jack-pos-86752325/episode/episode-595-israel-at-war--127200758

(Starts around 4:00 in)
 
These posts are all about bought and paid for politicians. It's not hard to understand why they are serving Satan.

What about actual normies?

I'm wondering what makes a normie have support for Israel?

Boomers? OK They are just mentally retarted.

Evangelicals? Sure, there are a few but I don't think Christians who support the Synagogue of Satan exist in any meaningful numbers.

Muslim haters? I feel like the last 20 years of diversity is our strength and it's great to date outside your race have mostly erased this belief.

Teevee Idiots? A good number of normies will literally believe anything they hear on the teevee. They would send money to Israel today and love Hamas tomorrow if teevee told them to.

But what about your typical independent normie person? What is it about Israel that they can use as a reason to support them? Is it really the "democracy" thing? I don't know how much normies even care about that, and besides, an apartheid state with a dual legal system is not a democracy at all.

Ignorance of their crimes? Does anyone in current year not know that Israel is an apartheid state that controls the movements of Palestianians and denies them basic rights? Is anyone ignorant about the sport shooting they do of Palestinian kids?

You even have a substantial number of American Jews opposed to Israel. I just can't understand how a typical normie American supports Israel.

(In fact, the majority probably supports Palestine, but I'm wondering why Israel has support above single digits?):



Has anyone talked to a normie and understands why they support Israel?
 
These posts are all about bought and paid for politicians. It's not hard to understand why they are serving Satan.

What about actual normies?

I'm wondering what makes a normie have support for Israel?

Boomers? OK They are just mentally retarted.

Evangelicals? Sure, there are a few but I don't think Christians who support the Synagogue of Satan exist in any meaningful numbers.

Muslim haters? I feel like the last 20 years of diversity is our strength and it's great to date outside your race have mostly erased this belief.

Teevee Idiots? A good number of normies will literally believe anything they hear on the teevee. They would send money to Israel today and love Hamas tomorrow if teevee told them to.

But what about your typical independent normie person? What is it about Israel that they can use as a reason to support them? Is it really the "democracy" thing? I don't know how much normies even care about that, and besides, an apartheid state with a dual legal system is not a democracy at all.

Ignorance of their crimes? Does anyone in current year not know that Israel is an apartheid state that controls the movements of Palestianians and denies them basic rights? Is anyone ignorant about the sport shooting they do of Palestinian kids?

You even have a substantial number of American Jews opposed to Israel. I just can't understand how a typical normie American supports Israel.

(In fact, the majority probably supports Palestine, but I'm wondering why Israel has support above single digits?):



Has anyone talked to a normie and understands why they support Israel?

I don't know if you live in the USA or not, but over here the censorship regarding Israel is very strong. No one, on TV, or in either party, will speak harsh about Israel. And, even the few that do say they support a free Palestine state are roasted over the coals and called every name in the book.

The few people in Twitter that are speaking out about this war are having their bank accounts frozen, their social media accounts banned, and getting death threats and the police called on them.

Very few over here know what is really going on in Israel. Even I was shocked to learn some things after Oct 7th, and I thought I was pretty informed on the situation.

I wouldn't even call it a "apartheid" state. That would be a situation where Palestine was free and independent and Israel just left them alone. Instead it is more of a Soviet style gulag where the Palestinians are stuck behind giant walls and their water and electricity is cut off if they behave "badly".
 
Has anyone talked to a normie and understands why they support Israel?
Yes, I've spoken with Gen X and millennial conservative normies, one of which is an Afghan vet. Basically they are still operating under the paradigm laid out by 9/11. Democracy ="most stable government the world has known"; therefore, we must defend at all costs. If we don't defend Israel the muslim horde will attack us (they are super plugged into Shapiro right now). Also, consider that many who signed up for Afghanistan did so because they perceived they were protecting us from something like 9/11 happening again. It is very difficult for some of them to accept that they've lost friends and limbs for a sham. Very difficult.
 
Yes, I've spoken with Gen X and millennial conservative normies, one of which is an Afghan vet. Basically they are still operating under the paradigm laid out by 9/11. Democracy ="most stable government the world has known"; therefore, we must defend at all costs. If we don't defend Israel the muslim horde will attack us (they are super plugged into Shapiro right now). Also, consider that many who signed up for Afghanistan did so because they perceived they were protecting us from something like 9/11 happening again. It is very difficult for some of them to accept that they've lost friends and limbs for a sham. Very difficult.
I can speak from experience because in my younger days as a non-denominational evangelical in the Bible-belt, I was enmeshed in this mindset. A lot of it was post-9/11 thinking (democracy and freedom) with a good mix of dispensational theology (Jesus is coming soon). I even attended a CUFI (Christians United for Israel) rally where John Hagee was speaking. I did the whole wave the Israeli flag and even had a "I Support Israel" sweatshirt and donated a hefty chunk of income to support Israel. I bought into the whole scheme hook, line and sinker.

Thankfully my non-denominational church was a corrupt cesspool which led me to question everything and leave. At that point I had read the Bible front-to-back with three different translations and it all went "downhill" from there, culminating to my own time of noticing the JQ in recent years.

I think what helps people is when patterns start to become visible, and if anything, this whole recent Gaza genocide is a massive pill for a lot of people to swallow. As E. Michael Jones often says, the Jews always overplay their hand and this is happening on a grand scale in the Middle East and also here in the west where they have everything under their thumb. People are going to see the patterns, even if subconsciously.

What also helps is when Christians actually study Christian history. Doing so led me to become an Orthodox inquirer and helped relieve any doubts of relinquishing some lingering dispensational mindsets that I had.

I should also point out, that hanging over the heads of the evangelical dispensationalist is a Sword of Damocles, where if you bless the Jews you will be blessed. Curse them and you will be cursed. It's a hard mindset to break when you start on the JQ path. There is a literal fear of being cursed and maybe even culminating in damnation. It's a path I had to walk and a mindset that I had to get free from with much fear and trepidation. So I pity those people that have yet to go that route. Pray for them, pray that they break free from those chains -- the same for all of those that aren't in the faith, perhaps this could be a road to the faith for them.
 
I think the dam is about to burst when it comes when it comes to the taboo on talking about the excessive US aid to Israel if even neo-con Lindsey Graham is saying this


He must really be feeling some pressure to pander like this. Of course he's lying, but it's amazing he feels the need to tell this lie right now.
 
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