Finding the church that Jesus built video series

GoodShepherd

GoodShepherd

Orthodox
Heritage
This video series is a must for enquirers who would like to learn a bit about church history, where and how the church started and spread too and where is this one and only true church today.

There are about 8-9 parts to this series, here is seminar 1

 
Started listening finally. I'm ashamed to say I must be affected by short clips that are so prevalent now. He has all this information and even shows various books for back up references and all I can think is: I'm tired.

But I'm still glad for all the references.

A couple of things stood out to me so far. I didn't realize it was Constantine that was using that PX symbol so prevalently. And, the edict of Milan that made Christianity legal was in Milan. Of course it was but it's just more impactful to see that on a map - it's more north than I expected things to be. The illustration helps with giving an appreciation for the interconnectedness at that time.
 
Other pieces that stood out:

The sack of Rome in 400AD and the blame of Christians for it. Augustine responds with the City of God. City of God shapes the West and it's thought patterns all the way to the United States and Protestantism. I would have liked to have heard more on this but maybe he'll touch on it later.

Charlemagne and the stress he put on the Pope making the pope crown him as emperor. Here the common western struggle of Church and State starts. Charlemagne looks to be seperate and legitimate. And so he rejects everything the rest of the Church is doing. Charlemagne sees opportunity in the changes of the nicene creed that starts percolating out of Spain. Encourages its spread. Pope ends up being the last hold out saying the creed as it was originally written. Finally he gives in. But tug of war between german popes and german emperors continue.
 
Excellent tying together of Crusades, Renaissance, and Protestantism

from: 50:00 to about 60:00

I've never seen this point of view before.

Old Roman Catholic theology (Augustine + Plato)
vs.
New Roman Catholic theology from new stuff picked up from crusading in the east. ( which essentially became Aquinas + Aristotle)

Martin Luther was an Augustinian monk. Got upset with the new stuff... and there you go....
 
Northumber said:
Started listening finally. I'm ashamed to say I must be affected by short clips that are so prevalent now. He has all this information and even shows various books for back up references and all I can think is: I'm tired.

But I'm still glad for all the references.

A couple of things stood out to me so far. I didn't realize it was Constantine that was using that PX symbol so prevalently. And, the edict of Milan that made Christianity legal was in Milan. Of course it was but it's just more impactful to see that on a map - it's more north than I expected things to be. The illustration helps with giving an appreciation for the interconnectedness at that time.
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Stick it out its worth it, I have the book the city of God its quite a huge book I think close to 1000 pages, I started the book I was 70% done but there was an error on my kindle after that so still need to finish the rest, it really is an amazing book and should be a must read for all Christians, if you can get a hard copy even better, its what Im going to do.
 
Northumber said:
Excellent tying together of Crusades, Renaissance, and Protestantism

from: 50:00 to about 60:00

I've never seen this point of view before.

Old Roman Catholic theology (Augustine + Plato)
vs.
New Roman Catholic theology from new stuff picked up from crusading in the east. ( which essentially became Aquinas + Aristotle)

Martin Luther was an Augustinian monk. Got upset with the new stuff... and there you go....
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There is a nice podcast episode you could also listen to while driving its a history podcast and they do mention the crusades and constantinople it goes well with this series you watching
I personally think the idea of the crusades was a good one but they did turn on the Orthodox Christians of Constantinople that they were originally supposed to help defend so it was quite sad what they did, the fourth crusade if Im not mistaken.
 
GoodShepherd said:
Stick it out its worth it, I have the book the city of God its quite a huge book I think close to 1000 pages, I started the book I was 70% done but there was an error on my kindle after that so still need to finish the rest, it really is an amazing book and should be a must read for all Christians, if you can get a hard copy even better, its what Im going to do.
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He mentioned he'd talk about it when he covered salvation. So I skipped over to it for a preview. (I've been listening with a 1.5x speedup to deal with my short attention span)



I'm just a little in, but it's pretty interesting how he ties the development of TULIP to the Augustinian frame and interpretation. The big one is original sin.
 
Northumber said:
He mentioned he'd talk about it when he covered salvation. So I skipped over to it for a preview. (I've been listening with a 1.5x speedup to deal with my short attention span)



I'm just a little in, but it's pretty interesting how he ties the development of TULIP to the Augustinian frame and interpretation. The big one is original sin.
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It was a few years ago when I watched this so dont remember all all the details. Its a really good series enjoy it, I hope to watch it all again some day to refresh
 
Northumber said:
The big one is original sin.
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Finished listening to Seminar 5 on Salvation. It actually does leave a pit in my stomach. Original sin is so ingrained into my psyche.... and our psyche as a culture. Paul Kingsnorth has suggested maybe it's tied to the drive now for reparations in culture. We are unable to pull back from that paradigm.

It helps in all this to just think about what the incarnation means for us.
 
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