Demographic Collapse and Ramifications

[Christos_NIKA]

As I've mentioned elsewhere, I would like this thread to be about discussing the increasing problem of demographic decline in the developed nations, the ramifications of it, and what can be done about it. Consider the long-term effects on society, productive output, GDP, etc. You can't just replace skilled workers with immigrants, as we've seen now in many countries. Unless people start having a LOT more children, this is not going to end well for anyone.

 

[Christos_NIKA]

 

[Christos_NIKA]

 

[JR5]

Well, if we look at worldwide demographic changes -- both fertility rates and immigration rates -- what stands out is that (1) Africans are having the most children by a wide margin, their total fertility rate (TFR) is above 6 and not coming down very fast because their average IQs are 65-80 and they don't like to use birth control or think ahead, and they live off endless foreign aid, and (2) Muslims, especially Muslims in western countries, have fertility rates consistently at least 1+ children above that of white Christians.

What this mean if current trends continue is that the future is going to be much browner, much blacker, and much more Islamic, as well as much lower average IQ. Because there is a baseline of IQ necessary to keep technological civilization functioning, what we will eventually see is a collapse of technological civilization, much like we are seeing in South Africa today. Indeed, the projected future 100+ years from now is likely going to be black Muslims sitting around their 7th century mud huts telling stories around the campfire of the mythological whites who came down as Angels, bestowed forgotten technology onto the world much like Atlantis, and then disappeared into the nether.

 

[Christos_NIKA]

 

[Christos_NIKA]

 

[SpyofMoses]

Someone I've been following on telegram lately has a whole blog post about this topic. He calls it the coming "BIPOCalypse."

The article in question

Edit: This is pretty much the conclusion:

@JR5
What this mean if current trends continue is that the future is going to be much browner, much blacker, and much more Islamic, as well as much lower average IQ. Because there is a baseline of IQ necessary to keep technological civilization functioning, what we will eventually see is a collapse of technological civilization, much like we are seeing in South Africa today. Indeed, the projected future 100+ years from now is likely going to be black Muslims sitting around their 7th century mud huts telling stories around the campfire of the mythological whites who came down as Angels, bestowed forgotten technology onto the world much like Atlantis, and then disappeared into the nether.

 

[Australia Sucks]

I am not convinced that population collapse is really as big of a problem as people think it is.

Firstly global population is still projected to rise for the next few decades because of Africa and India despite some first world countries and China and Russia going backwards.

A lot of first world countries are plugging the hole with migration (which I don't agree with but that is a discussion for other threads).

Also historically (when looking at thousands of years of data) population moves in cycles and does not go up in a straight line there are growth periods and decline periods.

Also any negative economic effects of an inverted population pyramid/demographic wash through the system after a few generations once the worker dependency ratio stabilizes. Its not a permanent downward spiral.

Also in the future due to advances in robotics and AI there is going to be far less need for labour so a large population would lead to high unemployment and civil unrest.

Also if productivity growth is good and the right economic reforms are made a country can do reasonably well despite population decline. For example look at the Baltic countries. Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia have all experienced a declining population since the end of communism yet they have had solid increases in economic activity and living standards despite the population decline.

 

[Samseau]

Well, if we look at worldwide demographic changes -- both fertility rates and immigration rates -- what stands out is that (1) Africans are having the most children by a wide margin, their total fertility rate (TFR) is above 6 and not coming down very fast because their average IQs are 65-80 and they don't like to use birth control or think ahead, and they live off endless foreign aid, and (2) Muslims, especially Muslims in western countries, have fertility rates consistently at least 1+ children above that of white Christians.

What this mean if current trends continue is that the future is going to be much browner, much blacker, and much more Islamic, as well as much lower average IQ. Because there is a baseline of IQ necessary to keep technological civilization functioning, what we will eventually see is a collapse of technological civilization, much like we are seeing in South Africa today. Indeed, the projected future 100+ years from now is likely going to be black Muslims sitting around their 7th century mud huts telling stories around the campfire of the mythological whites who came down as Angels, bestowed forgotten technology onto the world much like Atlantis, and then disappeared into the nether.

This doesn't matter as much as people think, without an intelligent population to sustain the global economy we should expect most of these Blacks and Browns to starve.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

This doesn't matter as much as people think, without an intelligent population to sustain the global economy we should expect most of these Blacks and Browns to starve.

But if the elites of the west don't allow their population to realize the IQ realities, which are that it is almost 100% genetic and it will take hundreds, if not thousands of years of selective breeding for many people to catch up to Europeans/Asians, then we all will go down with them.

Small pockets of higher IQ might survive this collapse, by being self sufficient, but they will have to get very tough and very mean, to a point they never thought was possible, to both defend their little oasis but to also realize this harsh IQ reality and do everything possible to defend it.

The good thing is we are starting to see a major pushback against DEI. The bad thing is that still most, who realize DEI is a disaster, do not fully realize why it is a disaster.

 

[Christos_NIKA]

 

[GoodShepherd]

Well, if we look at worldwide demographic changes -- both fertility rates and immigration rates -- what stands out is that (1) Africans are having the most children by a wide margin, their total fertility rate (TFR) is above 6 and not coming down very fast because their average IQs are 65-80 and they don't like to use birth control or think ahead, and they live off endless foreign aid, and (2) Muslims, especially Muslims in western countries, have fertility rates consistently at least 1+ children above that of white Christians.

What this mean if current trends continue is that the future is going to be much browner, much blacker, and much more Islamic, as well as much lower average IQ. Because there is a baseline of IQ necessary to keep technological civilization functioning, what we will eventually see is a collapse of technological civilization, much like we are seeing in South Africa today. Indeed, the projected future 100+ years from now is likely going to be black Muslims sitting around their 7th century mud huts telling stories around the campfire of the mythological whites who came down as Angels, bestowed forgotten technology onto the world much like Atlantis, and then disappeared into the nether.

If I could just add something to this, its true what you saying but one thing I notice about the high child birth rate in my country South Africa is that its mostly outside of marriage and fatherless kids, which is not good, this explains our high crime rates, these kids when they grow up without Gods help they not going to do much with their lives, the wealthier and more educated black South African Iv also noticed that they wont have a lot of kids either because lets be honest if you live in the modern world having kids just becomes an expense to your life so generally the wealthy and more educated just have less kids, the amish on the other hand the more kids they have the more helping hands they going to have work on the fields and help the woman with all their work and it expands their communities and causes prosperity so they want more kids and its within marriage.

I dont think you need to worry about the black African taking over the world, yes their numbers are growing but its disorganized and theres no direction, the tiny white minority are still the wealthiest and still the strongest even though they have all the odds against them and all the laws to hold them back they still ahead, the Indians who are also a small minority also doing very well.

The Muslims on the other hand are more dangerous because they have order, religion and they are organized and they do have a world denomination religeous world view so they do actually want the hold world converted, they might come to Africa like they once did and conquer the black people and convert them and then if this ever happens then it can be a problem for the world, for example have a look at the areas where there are black Muslims in Africa, they not the most peaceful places, boko harem Nigeria, al shabab Somalia and Kenya and have a look at the black ISIS group in Mozambique.

The Muslims can only thrive where authentic Christianity doesnt exist, if we loose our faith and forget about God then darkness will naturally come in.

 

[GoodShepherd]

As I've mentioned elsewhere, I would like this thread to be about discussing the increasing problem of demographic decline in the developed nations, the ramifications of it, and what can be done about it. Consider the long-term effects on society, productive output, GDP, etc. You can't just replace skilled workers with immigrants, as we've seen now in many countries. Unless people start having a LOT more children, this is not going to end well for anyone.

The Amish are doing something right, their population doubles every 20 years, I hear they gonna reach 2 million in the USA in the next few years, impressive.

 

[Christos_NIKA]

The Amish are doing something right, their population doubles every 20 years, I hear they gonna reach 2 million in the USA in the next few years, impressive.

I can't remember where I saw it, but at current trends, the US population will be nearly 1/3 Amish, 1/3 Mormon, and 1/3 whatever else within a few hundred years (not counting for illegal migration). Only the Amish and Mormons (and to a small extent the Orthodox Christians and jews) are having huge families.

 

[GoodShepherd]

The Amish are doing something right, their population doubles every 20 years, I hear they gonna reach 2 million in the USA in the next few years, impressive.

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Roosh once shared the group of Jewish people and liberals clapping hands and celebrating when they saw the decline of the white population.

I can't remember where I saw it, but at current trends, the US population will be nearly 1/3 Amish, 1/3 Mormon, and 1/3 whatever else within a few hundred years (not counting for illegal migration). Only the Amish and Mormons (and to a small extent the Orthodox Christians and jews) are having huge families.

So thats not to bad of a future, the Mormans are not as bad as the Muslims although they very similar, just without marrying their sisters and first cousins and without the jihadi terror wars, the Amish also not bad at all they totally off the grid and dont have social security numbers and are good farmers and are good at living off the land, they dont take vaccines and arent busy with selfies on Instagram and dont carry tracking devices on them

What would be really great is if us Orthodox Christians focused some of our evangelism on the Morman and Amish communities since they are the future, I think the Orthodox Christian numbers are going to grow in USA from protestant converts too, only God knows