Conspiracy Theory Thread
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Here's Billy Corgan of Smashing Pumpkins fame talking about the government approaching him several times and how he's seen a human "shape shift" (reminds me a bit of Tucker talking about how he was attacked in his sleep by a demon or something that left marks on his body). Again, I've also seen and "communicated" with objects in the sky. These strange phenomenon just keep getting swept under the rug. And probably for good reason. Tucker said something to the effect, "I've stopped thinking about and investigating this stuff because I just don't want to 'go there'". I'm in the same boat, "out of sight out of mind." I think if you don't f*ck with this dark sh*t "It" leaves you alone. Nonetheless, it's all quite strange and fascinating.
I know a girl that knows him well and speaks really highly of him. I'm going to ask for her take on this crazy crap...
Well being a freemason like Corgan will definitely expose you to stuff from dimensions that are not the brightest to say the least.
The realm of crazy things is just that: under the rug, on the edge, just out of view. Where the video is fuzzy. I too have the same intuition that the less thought / time / energy you give it the less one has to worry about it.
Satan has nothing on the power and grace of Jesus Christ, our King and God.
That would be interesting. I know he has become a Christian as a result of his intense life experiences with money and fame.
I'm not sure it's "crap" though. Like I've said I too have encountered some other worldly phenomenon that doesn't fit into our normal definition and ideas of reality. There are plenty of other anecdotes out there too, like Tucker Carlson's encounter with some type of "being" (or high tech weapon) that left marks on his body:
The thing that I find disturbing is that more famous people that die (and that are living) aren't leaving behind secret writings/manifestos about the Eyes Wide Shut, super natural phenomenon, and/or (((government))) high tech weapons, facilities, and programs that they've either heard of or seen. Super rich and famous people see more of this stuff because fame puts them into higher circles of influence and power. Maybe they don't want to tarnish their legacy and/or jeopardize the safety of their children, friends, and family that they leave behind? For example, George Carlin gave us the line "It's a big club and you ain't in it," but he didn't really elaborate on the theme any more than that. Surely he had stories to tell on (((The Subject))) and could of written a book about them to be released after his death?
There is a battle raging between good and evil and it is a shame that more people "in the know" aren't spilling the beans and telling us all they know. We need more heroes who aren't afraid of losing everything in pursuit of The Truth.
It's definitely real. Perhaps it's murky even for those closer to the big club. Although there are plenty of other people out there who speak about these things and give their accounts. Then it's just a matter of who you trust.
But even if some of these things are "all in someones head" that doesn't negate the reality of their experience. We know that our thoughts are where the demons primarily battle it out with us.
In the preface to The Screwtape Letters, C.S. Lewis said to neither ignore nor over-emphasize the influence of demons, but in the West it's been made such a taboo subject that most people think it's best to leave it alone or that merely innocence is enough protection.
C.S. Lewis said:
There are a few priests in America, however, who are exorcists, almost all of them Roman Catholics, who have given interviews and talks on youtube that describe aspects of demonology clearly and calmly, such as Fr. Vincent Lampert and Fr. Chad Ripperger, both of whom have published books; Fr. Ripperger wrote a very large reference book called Dominion. If a person has a reason to understand it better, it's possible to learn from current and credible sources. Other good sources include traditional accounts on the Lives of the Saints.
In 2021, Australian singer Altiyan Childs made a five hour video explaining that he'd been in a near-fatal car crash and was grateful to Jesus Christ for his survival, which led to him coming out as a former Freemason. The video is a nearly endless montage of clips and stills of entertainers making Freemasonic gestures in order to demonstrate that they're all "in the club", which he says is just a front for Satanism.
I can think of three reasons why more people don't do this, whether posthumously or not.
(1) Credibility. The modern Western world is materialist and atheist. Many Christians think the devil is just a symbol and there is no clear good and evil. To say otherwise is to lose credibility in most circles.
(2) They would implicate themselves. People are vain and they don't want to be remembered for something bad.
(3) They're terrified. Many non-famous people have come forward and described their lives in Satanic cults and families in ways that convey how terrified they are of retribution against them or their loved ones. Not all of these stories are credible, but there are a lot of them with varying levels of corroboration. One reason they're so scared is that they believe it's difficult to escape the influence and power of these groups and there's a lot of evidence to support the basis for such a fear, including countless stories of extreme surveillance harassment, suspicious deaths of corporate whistle blowers, etc.
(4) A posthumous account would be easily discredited without a person to stand behind it. And I think that if you were brave enough to arrange some kind of posthumous spilling of the beans, then you would be unable to remain silent while still alive, and the reverse is also true.
While she's at it have her ask Corgan "Are you a freemason?" and report back to us his initial reaction
I used to follow and listen to these guys (read parts of Dominion) but have a different view of them now. I'm prefacing this that this is just my current view. It's difficult for me to be settled on things like this. But, I think they are an example of being too focused on demons. Or, said differently, they are examples of addressing the issue in a malformed way. They always have things happen that are specific to their aesthetic, if you know what I mean ( Latin-centric,etc). To me, their understanding of demons seems a little distorted and overly shaped by sort of modernistic mindsets (granted I consider the Renaissance a tragedy and modernistic so I'm going to be critical of quite a bit). There are other reasons I have too but it comes down to me not finding them very trustworthy anymore. Not terrible, but in a way I'd find someone who is misguided untrustworthy.
While she's at it have her ask Corgan "Are you a freemason?" and report back to us his initial reaction
Gotta put a pin in it for now Purple sorry brother. She's a trainer at my old gym we've hung out a few times, haven't talked to her in a while I texted her and the first thing she told me was her father just passed and it was rough so I wasn't going to bring anything else up. Maybe down the line, good I texted her though I would have felt terrible if I didn't make an appearance at the funeral...
Don't mean to press you, but in case you thought my first reply with the screenshot was just for laughs, I'm really curious how you think Fr. Lampert or Fr. Ripperger, or perhaps other RC priests addressed the issue in a malformed way or that their understanding of demons is a little distorted.
Honestly, can you be more specific?
Well, take what I say with a grain of salt as I'm not even yet in what I'm pretty sure is the true Church.
I basically think Fr. Lampert and Fr. Ripperger exist within a culture frame and mindset that overly entertains thoughts. In Orthodox language I mean they are too imaginative. So I think in their approach they implicitly entertain thoughts themselves. The effect is that there can be a feedback loop. The imaginative cultural framework they work in becomes self-fulfilling and the whole thing becomes counterproductive.
For example, I've heard Fr. Ripperger say demons are like lawyers and they respond to very specific protocols. And so he stays within that frame of mind and also takes a lawyer like approach. My critique on this example is that this is counterproductive. There is a reason things that exist in the spiritual realm are called subtle bodies.
I haven't watched much of Fr. Ripperger, or maybe it was three years ago and I forgot, and I've only skimmed a couple of sections of his lengthy book, but I understand what you're getting at.
However, I've listened to a lot of Fr. Lampert and the specific things he says about demons and what he describes about the exorcisms that he witnessed during his training, as well as what happened when he was the priest conducting the exorcism, and it all jibes with my experience and knowledge, so I don't think much about what his lawyerly attitude might be.
Fr. Lampert goes into some detail and I recall that he says he always has a confession the day before an exorcism, and he also fasts a lot. He said that most of his exorcisms lead to a resolution, but some people require a second, third, etc., and may take months or years. He said that the longest time was 10 years and eventually it simply came down to the fact that the woman had not fully confessed something and it basically took 10 years for her to finally come clean, and then the demon could no longer oppress her. He said that was true with a lot of cases.
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