Christmas is Christian not Pagan

GoodShepherd

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I dont see a thread dedicated to Christmas, the great Christian feast and celebration of the incarnation (birth) of our Lord and saviour Jesus Christ. It is the season now. Every year I have to hear from Christians and non Christians how this is a Pagan celebration, its also been very trendy for modern Christians to stop celebrating Christmas which is quite silly because its the birthday of Jesus and its proper and right to celebrate Christs birth.
 
25th of December is the day the Church celebrates the birth of Christ, no its not a Pagan date it was first a Christian feast day, the Pagans overlapped this Christian day into a Pagan day not the other way around. The early church celebrated the birth of Christ. Christmas trees are also not pagan but are known as paradise trees. Here is a very good little podcast that covers this topic, we get the date of Christs birth from the bible by getting John the Baptists birthday, Christ was born 6 months after John.

 
GoodShepherd said:
Firstly Santa Claus is actually real, he is based on a 4 century saint called saint Nicolas the bishop of Myra. Here is a short clip about him.

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St Nicholas was real. The man from the North Pole, with elves making toys, and the reindeer and sleigh that magically deliver toys to children around the world. That's not true.

I've been seeing stuff about discovering St Nicholas's tomb, which I think is cool, but I don't like that being used to say Santa Claus is true.
 
Thomas More said:
St Nicholas was real. The man from the North Pole, with elves making toys, and the reindeer and sleigh that magically deliver toys to children around the world. That's not true.

I've been seeing stuff about discovering St Nicholas's tomb, which I think is cool, but I don't like that being used to say Santa Claus is true.
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This is the real santa claus we need to be telling the children about
 
Here's a question: do you guys believe that December 25th was Jesus's birthday, given the Bible does not specify an exact date?

Should it matter to us when Jesus was born, or is it the celebration of his birth that’s more important?
 
Bizet said:
Here's a question: do you guys believe that December 25th was Jesus's birthday, given the Bible does not specify an exact date?

Should it matter to us when Jesus was born, or is it the celebration of his birth that’s more important?
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I believe its that date because its the date the church celebrates it. We get the date of Jesus birth from the date of John the baptists birth thats in the Bible, Jesus was born 6 month later after John so yes its actually in the Bible

We must keep in mind that Christians were celebrating the birth of Christ and easter (Pasca, which is passover) before any Christian even had a Bible and before the official canon of scripture was canonized, I know you not Orthodox as it says "other Christian" under your name but we Orthodox we have an entire calendar for the entire year full of feast days and fasts and these are the dates that we all follow together, for example, the 15th of August is when the Theotokos (the virgin Mary) passed away, so for us Orthodox Christians we dont reinvent the wheel as individuals each generation, we just follow the church calendar, if you listen to the link of the podcast I shared on this thread it will be a really good explanation to listen too regarding this very topic.
 
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