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Vas Incrementum said:
Fury's weight means he's not got any silly ideas of leaning on or rough housing Usyk, so that's one positive. Usyk is too quick and mobile for that sort of tactic. So, since he can't outbox Uzyk, Fury's probably looking for a knock out. Good luck with that. Unless he thinks he can outbox Uzyk, that'll be interesting.
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I think we were both wrong and a little right... He did lean on usyk and it was somewhat effective. Usyk gave some incredible pressure, and both ate some big shots.

Fury got saved by the bell .... Their next right is going to be excellent... And this was humbling experience for Fury.

As I've said. Boxing fans all over won tonight.
 
Great fight. It didn't go anything like I expected. Fury dominated the mid rounds, obscuring clever shots with his jab and outwitting Uzyk. Then Uzyk summoned up a storm of aggression and went for broke and very nearly won by knock out. Crazy. In the end Uzyk didn't outbox Fury, he just had the greater will to win.
 
Vas Incrementum said:
Great fight. It didn't go anything like I expected. Fury dominated the mid rounds, obscuring clever shots with his jab and outwitting Uzyk. Then Uzyk summoned up a storm of aggression and went for broke and very nearly won by knock out. Crazy. In the end Uzyk didn't outbox Fury, he just had the greater will to win.
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Yeah. It was pretty epic. I'm looking forward to the rematch... and hopefully a 3rd bout so a trilogy can happen for the legacy. Clear demonstration that these 2 are the Pinnacle of the sport and unequaled.

Great for the sport. Great for the fans. Both champions are good people, great promoters for the sport.

I appreciate that both Fury and Usyk were first to say Glory to God for both of them in defeat and in victory.
 
I cannot believe that Fury thought he won that.

I was saying to the guys I was watching it with that Uzuk had to put Fury down or otherwise he would be robbed. He very nearly was.

If Fury spent less time clowning and more time actually boxing he probably would have won this.
 
That fight lived up to the hype. The momentum shifted back and forth like 4 different times, witch each man getting pushed to their limit eating hard shots. Both guys displayed a ton of heart.



I think Fury not taking a knee to gather himself after getting cracked with that hook in the 9th was a poor decision. He did everything he could to stay on his feet and ended up taking more damage than he needed to. Was amazing to see though. Somehow Fury managed to recover after that serious beating in the 9th to hurt Usyk with some decent shots late in the fight. It was that 9th round that sealed the deal for Usyk. He had Fury in serious serious trouble.

I've been enjoying boxing more lately than MMA. Fights like this are legendary, and feel special compared to the mass produced UFC slop we get lately.
 
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I watched the highlights of this with my mouth hanging open. EVERYONE thought AJ was going to batter Dubois and he got exposed for what he was. Extraordinary night.
 
Get2choppaaa said:
Wow... From that video. It's clear that Usyk is in a league of his own. The rest are All lacking
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There was some controversy when Usyk fought Dubois. Usyk got hit by a murderous body shot which sat him down, and the ref ruled it a low blow, looked like it was right on the beltline to me which I think is fair game. He took some time to get up, but maybe he would have gotten up and beat the count anyway if the ref started counting him down.

Usyk ended up knocking Dubois out later in the fight.

 
mountainaire said:
There was some controversy when Usyk fought Dubois. Usyk got hit by a murderous body shot which sat him down, and the ref ruled it a low blow, looked like it was right on the beltline to me which I think is fair game. He took some time to get up, but maybe he would have gotten up and beat the count anyway if the ref started counting him down.

Usyk ended up knocking Dubois out later in the fight.

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Yeah. That was never a low blow.

I reckon if Dubois came with the intensity that he came to the Joshua fight, he could take Usyk
 
Ironclad said:
Yeah, that was an embarrassing performance, and he made all of boxing look bad. For a self-proclaimed follower of Jesus, Fury sure isn't living up to biblical principles. He should be ashamed of himself.
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To be honest modern boxing is a very sportised martial art. I am not saying it has no usefulness in a real fight but compared to something like muay thai, kick boxing, a good form of karate, etc boxing is way down the list in terms of usefulness.

Boxing teaches people a lot of bad habits. Firstly the big boxing gloves mean blows are blunted a lot and also people hide their faces behind the big gloves which is unrealistic when you are bare knuckle. Also since a lot of boxers are not use to punching without gloves often their hand form gets sloppy (plus their knuckles and wrists are not adequately conditioned) and when they get in a real fight they punch someone in the face (often doing serious damage to their opponent) but the often break or sprain the wrist, etc in the process.

Also the lack of kicks mean boxers often punch from a really deep stance to get more power in their punches but the downside is they cannot leg check effectively from that stance meaning a kick-boxer, muay thai fighter, karate-ka, etc could easily take their legs out.

Finally the ducking and weaving of punches often means their head position is low and its easy for them to cop a knee or kick to the head.
 
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