Donald Trump: Criticism & Debate Thread

Is he failing? They're rolling out the "Strongman" archetype. He's "stopping" the financial looting. He's putting the Jews in their place. He's going drill baby drill. He's making American beef great again. He's fighting the extremists who want to tear apart the country. He's old school baby, he honors the man who "saved" Europe. A bit tongue in cheek. Just in time for the rise of the Judaic Empire. If only there was some kind of founding document that could have benefited from some dusting off. If only there was such document so people could judge the true character of Commander In Chief.
What?

What financial looting is he stopping? Wall Street is more powerful than ever before. Israel gets everything it wants when it bombs kids. Immigration continues while the middle class is being destroyed. Nothing financially has changed in the last 5 months. Israel has more power than even under Biden. He just stabbed Russia and Iran in the back to try to kick off WW3.

How is he fighting extremists? They are burning down cities and waving foreign flags and he has done nothing to the people who are paying for it all.
 
What?

What financial looting is he stopping? Wall Street is more powerful than ever before. Israel gets everything it wants when it bombs kids. Immigration continues while the middle class is being destroyed. Nothing financially has changed in the last 5 months. Israel has more power than even under Biden. He just stabbed Russia and Iran in the back to try to kick off WW3.

How is he fighting extremists? They are burning down cities and waving foreign flags and he has done nothing to the people who are paying for it all.
Even if we were to grant you all of this, the problem remains that we have no other alternatives. So your claims are impractical and fairly hollow otherwise, unless you are saying he's a complete and total plant. I don't see that.
 
Even if we were to grant you all of this, the problem remains that we have no other alternatives. So your claims are impractical and fairly hollow otherwise, unless you are saying he's a complete and total plant. I don't see that.
You don't have to grant me anything, everything I said is happening right now.

Of course we have no other alternative, both parties are owned and controlled by both people. Do you know why they did campaign finance reform? Because people started to notice the very same corporations were the top donors to both parties, so now they hide it behind Super PACS.

Of course he is a total plant. Again, please research who Roy Cohn was, who he was associated with, and how he literally created the character of Trump, who before meeting him was very quiet and mild mannered by all reports.

The real opposition to all of this is Iran. They are fighting back, they show that this satanic system is on its last legs. I don't know if China or Russia are really opposition or not, but I am certain Iran is because their leaders get killed. This is a great time to be alive, time to stop believing in people who are allowed to even run for federal office and start believing in ourselves. God bless us, I've never felt so White pilled watching Iran take on Israel.
 
Trump vs. Trumpism
Greg Johnson
June 13, 2025

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I got lot of pushback last year when I declared that Donald Trump has always been the weakest link in the Trump movement. I am genuinely grateful for the good things that Trump has done. But recent events have only confirmed my judgment that he is a weak, foolish, and unprincipled man.

First, there are the California riots against immigration enforcement. Immigration is the most important issue facing America. Nothing else matters if America continues to decline into a non-white, anti-white dystopia. It is make or break, do or die, a matter of existence for the American people. We need mass deportations of illegal immigrants, then we need a general policy of remigration directed at non-whites who are here legally. Without this, it is only a matter of time before the Left gets back into power. The Left will then permanently crush any real opposition, and white genocide will kick into overdrive. That’s why millions of nonwhites were brought here in the first place: to establish a one-party Leftist state.

This is also an existential issue for Trump and everyone around him. If the Left gets back into power, Trump, his family, and people like J. D. Vance, Stephen Miller, and Elon Musk, will end up in prison or exile.

Given the stakes, Trump’s response has been astonishingly weak. He should have authorized the use of lethal force on Day One. Then there would not have been Day Two. Now protests (read “riots”) are planned for up to 2,000 locations around the country on Saturday, June 14th.

Trump can’t plead ignorance here. He was president on May 26, 2020, when the first George Floyd riot engulfed Minneapolis. Because the riot was not suppressed forcibly on Day One, protests and riots spread to more than 1,600 cities and towns in all fifty states. Between 19 and 25 people were killed, with up to two billion dollars damage to property and livelihoods. If on Day One, 15 rioters had been shot dead, it would have saved lives, homes, and livelihoods if it had quelled further violence.

The first night of riots is the fault of the rioters. Every subsequent night is the fault of Trump for being weak.

Second, while Los Angeles was burning over immigration enforcement, Trump took to Truth Social to emit an astonishing “Boomer post” on immigration:



This is a disaster, akin to Trump’s betrayal on immigration last year, when he declared that he was only concerned with deporting criminal illegal aliens, not the people who are somehow needed for the economy. Newsflash: all illegal aliens are criminals, because they broke the law to get here. Moreover, none of these aliens are “needed” by the US economy. Employers simply prefer to have them here, because they undercut American wages. It is laughable to suggest that people picking lettuce and changing sheets are irreplaceable. These are low-skilled jobs that anyone can do. The only thing employers fear is having to pay their workers more. If Trump is not going to enforce immigration laws for scabs undercutting American wages, then he might as well declare a mass amnesty right now.

Trump was elected on a nationalist and populist program. Assenting to mass illegal immigration in order to undercut American wages is neither nationalism nor populism. It is Republicanism at its foulest. This is a disgusting betrayal of the 77 million Americans who voted for Trump.

Fortunately, as with the H1B visa debate in December of 2024, there has been widespread pushback from the increasingly nationalist, populist, and openly racialist Right, including figures like Matt Walsh and Charlie Kirk. Arguments formerly made on sites like Counter-Currents, VDare, and American Renaissance are now being echoed by Republican influencers with huge audiences. It never would have happened, however, without our movement and its platforms.

Last year’s betrayal was due to pressure from Elon Musk and big tech. This year’s betrayal seems to be due to pressure from agribusiness and the hotel industry. But America is not an economic zone. It is a nation, the homeland of the American people. Private enterprise is a fine thing. But whenever there is a conflict between business interests and the common good of the nation, the nation must always prevail. Until oligarchs begin to fear the wrath of the people, these betrayals will continue.

Third, Trump compounded his betrayal on immigration by announcing that he has agreed with China to allow up to 500,000 Chinese students to study at US Universities, a huge increase from the approximately 275,000 currently studying in America, in exchange for China exporting more magnets and rare-earth minerals. Apparently, Trump has come under pressure from the automotive and other industries to cut a deal.

This is another disastrous betrayal: even more white Americans will lose educational opportunities to the Chinese. Beyond that, many of Trump’s policies are being driven by the security threat of China. This deal simply exacerbates that threat. It prolongs American economic dependence on Chinese products while opening America to even more Chinese spies and saboteurs. Even setting aside the race-replacement angle, this is terrible.

All of this illustrates that the battle of ideas is not over. We must constantly rehash the basics of white identity politics to an ever-increasing audience of normies. Moreover, the establishment is out in full force to deflect people away from white identity politics into various color-blind globalist dead ends.

A case in point is the disgraceful performance of UK Reform Party politician Richard Tice, who when confronted with white demographic displacement in Britain tried every deflection in the book to avoid talking about the only essential group in Great Britain, the white people who constitute the English, Scottish, Welsh, and Irish peoples. Tice spoke of “British born” people, which of course can be of any race. He spoke of Britain as a “Christian nation,” but Christians can be of any race. And, when pressed on the issue, simply said that it isn’t his problem because he will be dead long before whites become a minority. It would disqualify any politician if he said he were indifferent to the extinction of a snail or salamander. It should be even more disqualifying for him to be indifferent to the extinction of his own race.

Relax Richard. We White Nationalists are playing a very long game. Things are breaking our way faster than I ever imagined, but remigration will take a very long time. Our white homelands will only be restored long after you are dead. So it is nothing to fear. Just golf, grill, and die snug in your bed. But don’t get in our way.

3 days later and everything you wrote is invalidated:


How does it feel knowing you wasted a huge chunk of your Saturday writing meaningless drivel that was proven false after 30 seconds of deliberations from the Trump team?

You are a classic example of someone who constantly falls for fake news and wastes their life fretting over it.
 
Hasn't the Modern Conservative movement been Jewish Operation since William Buckley took the reigns of it when it was co-opted by Trotskyite Jews for the most part. At least the Mainstream Neo Con one. The only version of Conservative Movement that was Righteous was the 30s Old Right and the Pat Buchanan versions. Other than that it has been a Head Fake for Jewish interests with lots of Raw Raw American Exceptionalism/Military Power and getting that American Dream by getting your own business-pulling up bootstraps...something something.

What I'm saying is the Political Terms have been so twisted to Accomodate Jewish Power, nobody knows who's Jewing who.
 
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