Eh, I think this is going too far. There's a place for sex appeal in society. People should try to look sharp, stylish and visually appealing. Certainly, there are immodest and crass ways of doing this, but there's a place for it if done tastefully.
The Destruction of Modern Women
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I accept your points i do not say they are untrue. But i need to conciously reject them because my goals are to stop suffering, find fulfillment in life again, find love again, hopefully have a family and repent and be closer to god along the way. And for that i need to believe the opposite things you and what the sub culture of the redpill promotes, with all respect. Its not personal its something that needs to be done i want to turn back from it because its a dead end for me.
Being correct that we are statistically likely to fail does not provide any benefit whatsoever. A fighter who goes into the cage has to eradicate all doubt from his mind and become delusional to an extent. Imagine he had guys on his team repeating that there is a 50% chance to get knocked out, and look at this hundredth tiktok video of a guy getting knocked out.
If you do want to be absolutely correct on all the cold hard facts and have all the big picture information that is a huge burden and more in line with being a historian and philospher. It is a hard path and not suitable and sometimes unbearable for most people and you can not expect them to adopt it the same way you can.
Call me cypher and bring that juicy steak, if being correct and right means being alone and unfulfilled then i do not want it. Id rather be delusional instead, loving women fully requires some level of bluepill and delusional romanticism. Does this not count for loving any other person and even yourself. Overlooking the flaws in ourselves and others wilfully. I have a large family of normies and i see their marriages and children they are not miserable the opposite.
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You should give up! Give up posting armchair observations in this thread and court and meet up with a number of women, modern or otherwise and then if you like post about specific women you have spent time with rather.
It's polluting the forum and has no doubt driven some people away.
He is not in touch with reality in this matter at all.
People have to realise that the ideas in this thread are true for a subset of "modern" women and develop the instinct to spot them and avoid them, or humour them but keep moving. Not stare at videos of the worst kind of entitlement etc.
Knowing the risks makes you more careful, if nothing else. Most definitely helpful.
But we are not going into a fistfight in a cage, we are navigating a complex set of artificially and maliciously manufactured social issues in order to reach a goal (marriage and children). Eradicating doubts from your mind in this context may well cost you quite a lot of things you would rather not lose.
Like which ones? Genuine question.
Normies are having quite a rough time in every arena right now, you know. Not the right thing to emulate.
I think the reason this topic is so popular is because men are at their wits end. It seems like the dating market is hopeless, and yet, there are still many men who do not want to accept this bitter reality because it would destroy their love for life.
Fundamentally, both sides of this equation are wrong. Both sides put too much importance on women, and not enough on God.
A man with God does not care about the outcome, he does not care if women are easy or difficult. A man with God is content either way and thanks God for his blessings no matter what they are.
If this topic bothers you, then you've got a spiritual problem. If this topic is all you think about it, you've got a spiritual problem. Put more God in your life and less worry about things we cannot control, which would be the women.
God is the answer to the problem that is the world. If the women weren't broken there would be something else weighing us down. That's why it makes no sense to let anything bring your spiritual state down. Focus on God, thank Him every day, and realize that all things happen for a reason to the salvation of our souls. Whatever trials we may be going through right now are there to help all of us, in ways we will never understand.
Patience, prayer, and faith are what will save us, not women, money, or power.
Fundamentally, both sides of this equation are wrong. Both sides put too much importance on women, and not enough on God.
A man with God does not care about the outcome, he does not care if women are easy or difficult. A man with God is content either way and thanks God for his blessings no matter what they are.
If this topic bothers you, then you've got a spiritual problem. If this topic is all you think about it, you've got a spiritual problem. Put more God in your life and less worry about things we cannot control, which would be the women.
God is the answer to the problem that is the world. If the women weren't broken there would be something else weighing us down. That's why it makes no sense to let anything bring your spiritual state down. Focus on God, thank Him every day, and realize that all things happen for a reason to the salvation of our souls. Whatever trials we may be going through right now are there to help all of us, in ways we will never understand.
Patience, prayer, and faith are what will save us, not women, money, or power.
I know my limits and im not smart enough to quote and analyze it for you thats why i stick to the format i do taking small pieces from others out of context and creating exagurated ramblings hoping that someone will get the general message. Pretty much everything that has a negative undertone and keeps being repeated in one form or another, even things that are factually true and news can still be insidious.
Please take a look at this post as it seemed to have slipped through without as much attention as it deserves. The video a deeper dive into cynicism ive listened to it and thought it was profound and helpfull.
@Samseau "It seems like the dating market is hopeless'' its not we just need to do a crowdfunding for off grid christisking compound/community deep in phillipines countryside with fertile young phillipina wife included for every man failed in romance and all will be gucci
Ok, good to hear you're not as distressed as your prior post indicated. I'll leave things with you for now. All the best
^ Solid posts.
To clarify, I was offering @Unending Powerhouse Match individual help. I would consider offering it to @Blade Runner if he sincerely asked a specific question and provided sufficient contextual information.
On Societal vs Individual Issues
If a man decides he does not want marriage or kids because of the local environment, societal-level trends, divorce, trauma, age, health, self-centred need fulfilment, or whatever else, so be it. That's up to him. I'm not here to push men into marriage. In fact I've talked at length about the importance of serious screening and consideration about such a huge decision, e.g:
https://christisking.cc/threads/who-should-you-marry.556/#post-63179. Ultimately, it's up to the individual man here to determine what they really want, how much they want it, and what they are willing to sacrifice in order to achieve it.
That said, focusing on negative societal-level trends and news is going to make individuals feel more demoralised and hopeless. Conversely, focusing on what individuals can directly control is going to make them feel more empowered and energised.
This does not mean burying our heads in the sand. It's worth acknowledging that cynicism can represent a very powerful mechanism to deal with past, immediate, and imagined threats. Some level of critical assessment and distrust is needed to survive and thrive, and to justify our decisions to ourselves. It's also important to have an outlet to share frustrations albeit in a measured way.
Conversely, cynicism can act like a psychological defensive shield that protects us from anticapated hurt, rejection, or other pain; whereby we blame external conditions for our personal inactions.
30 second vid:
A deeper dive into cynicism - 1 hour vid:
Yet if someone's goal is to initiate or maintain a relationship, fixating on the things they cannot control and the things they want to avoid won't help much with getting closer to the things they want to personally *gain*.
Just because things are unfavourable at a population-level, does not mean that someone cannot achieve their goals and overcome the odds at an individual level. This applies to the dating market, employment conditions, health patterns, etc.
This is sincerely confusing. Would you be okay to share your relationship status and associated goals?
As you are a prolific poster and often discuss problems with the dating market, societal conditions, etc, I think it would help the readers to grasp the basics of your situation and intentions. It's possible to share this without revealing any identifying data.
Also, do you think about what you want to get when writing about issues with women or society? I.E.
- vent and feel emotional release,
- read like-minded opinions and validation,
- help others,
- seek information or wisdom from others, or
- something else?
I've got a few close male friends in their 30s-40s who decided "marriage and kids are probably not for me". It's not my role to convince them otherwise. Best I can do is try to live by example in my own marriage and parenting. And I'm fine with that.
So I truly don't mind if a CIK member is single or not, wants marriage or not, wants kids or not, etc. It's not on me to judge.
I do think it's easier to understand their postings if they share their relationship situation and goals with the membership.
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The guy who runs this place is positively black pilled and wants you to join him.
Maybe it is just that we have had too many positive experiences with women to share this attitude and resent attempts to drag everyone down. Given how many people like this post, I'm obviously in the wrong place. Roosh was never as negative and black pilled as this he always had a positive energy and fire in him.
Exactly. Having a bad woman is far worse than dying alone.
I have never met a single heterosexual male who uses "makeup". Sure some men have routines like brushing and gelling their hair, using face cleansers and moisturizers and other skin care products but not actual make up. I feel like that 15% statistic has to be made up. Have you ever actually seen makeup products specifically for men in any shop?I'm afraid so.
Makeup For Men Is More Than A Trend—It’s A Rapidly Rising Market
Makeup is being designed for men and by men, with the everyday male as its target consumer. Dundas Beauty, NuNorm and Obayaty are among the new market leaders.www.forbes.com
Whenever you post about your actual experiences with women the purity brigade on this forum will shut down your posts claiming you are engaging in all manner of sin. I can say that from personal experience.
I mean, it's still on the rare side, and like I said, it's usually very subtle. But it's common enough that I do hear about it. People have even recommended me products completely unprompted in the past.
Maybe. I am skeptical of statistics in general, but this one actually wouldn't surprise me at all if it were true. There are a lot of men who put a lot of effort into looksmaxing, and if you're hitting the gym, probably roiding, paying attention to your outfits and haircuts, reading about head shapes and so on and so forth, then wearing a bit of makeup just seems like a pretty obvious logical step.
I wouldn't know. I have never stepped foot in a cosmetics store.
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1 - diagnose
2- understand
3- engineer solution
4- trust the plan, act on it daily, never lose hope
. revisit earlier steps as needed to make adjustments but spend most of time in 4
All challenges in life are the same thing in a different package with a different flavour, if you can do one thing you can do everything. If you have overcome any challenge in life or attained succes in any area then you can keep repeating the formula. What is called succes has been distorted in modern society to keep us on the hamster wheel. Even the smallest things can be taken pride in so dont overlook or downplay them, we are often our own greatest critic while others see things in a more positive light. What is the story you are creating and telling yourself about the world, about life, who you are and about love. This is going to be the reality you live in curate it carefully.
2- understand
3- engineer solution
4- trust the plan, act on it daily, never lose hope
. revisit earlier steps as needed to make adjustments but spend most of time in 4
All challenges in life are the same thing in a different package with a different flavour, if you can do one thing you can do everything. If you have overcome any challenge in life or attained succes in any area then you can keep repeating the formula. What is called succes has been distorted in modern society to keep us on the hamster wheel. Even the smallest things can be taken pride in so dont overlook or downplay them, we are often our own greatest critic while others see things in a more positive light. What is the story you are creating and telling yourself about the world, about life, who you are and about love. This is going to be the reality you live in curate it carefully.
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There is nothing black pilled about rejecting the world and embracing God. Indeed, nothing could be more Christian.
"Death to the World" is Orthodoxy's slogan for a reason. It's the most White pilled message out there.
"He who shall lose his life for my sake shall save it"
Define "positive experiences" with women? I consider anything less than marriages and families to be negative experiences. It's just all distractions and games. Doesn't matter how much I enjoy it, I realize this system is poison and is killing us. 50% of millennial women with no children is a Biblical disaster.
It's funny, you don't realize who you're speaking with. Most men would considered my life blessed in so many ways, but it's just an illusion. Having lots of women isn't what men think it is. Indeed Roosh knew this better than anyone.
Roosh was the man who created this thread. He literally came up with the thread title, and was the OP of the original thread on the RVF, or he edited the thread title to this one. All we did was carry over the exact same topic from the RVF.
Why didn't you call him black pilled then? What has changed since then?
There is a core contingent in these threads that seem to all be:
1. Unwilling to consider western women.
2. Set on the idea that going abroad is the final solution to finding a suitable woman.
3. For a plethora of reasons (excuses), unable to go abroad.
These threads (and I'm lumping all of these threads under one umbrella because regardless of title they all go back to the same tone and topic) are always a negative echo chamber. There's almost zero constructive discussion going on. Glass half full types will come in and give actionable advice but 99% of the time it's dismissed. I check into these threads a few times a year, and year after year I'm baffled to see this core contingent, day after day, complaining about the same shit.
How does that not get old? I feel for these men, but it's best to move on. No progress is ever made. I totally understand throwing in the towel with western women, but spending this much time dissecting their downfall and the sorry state of society is a waste of time at best, and a symptom of mental illness at worst.
If you see going abroad as your final option, and this is important to you, then make a commitment and do it already, do it soon. Even if its a 1-2 month trip where you develop some prospects. Seriously what is stopping you? Your trajectory will in no way allow for it? You haven't hit your FIRE goals? You can't stop working 60 hours a week.... simply because? You can't perfectly plan every single step of the process beforehand?
And if you've already been abroad (which some of you have) but couldn't choose a single women from the ones making themselves available to you, that's an issues that has been addressed... give yourself a serious self assessment, ground yourself, be realistic, and adjust your standards accordingly. If you can't do that, married/family life most likely isnt for you and as others have said, just commit yourself to bachelorhood.
1. Unwilling to consider western women.
2. Set on the idea that going abroad is the final solution to finding a suitable woman.
3. For a plethora of reasons (excuses), unable to go abroad.
These threads (and I'm lumping all of these threads under one umbrella because regardless of title they all go back to the same tone and topic) are always a negative echo chamber. There's almost zero constructive discussion going on. Glass half full types will come in and give actionable advice but 99% of the time it's dismissed. I check into these threads a few times a year, and year after year I'm baffled to see this core contingent, day after day, complaining about the same shit.
How does that not get old? I feel for these men, but it's best to move on. No progress is ever made. I totally understand throwing in the towel with western women, but spending this much time dissecting their downfall and the sorry state of society is a waste of time at best, and a symptom of mental illness at worst.
If you see going abroad as your final option, and this is important to you, then make a commitment and do it already, do it soon. Even if its a 1-2 month trip where you develop some prospects. Seriously what is stopping you? Your trajectory will in no way allow for it? You haven't hit your FIRE goals? You can't stop working 60 hours a week.... simply because? You can't perfectly plan every single step of the process beforehand?
And if you've already been abroad (which some of you have) but couldn't choose a single women from the ones making themselves available to you, that's an issues that has been addressed... give yourself a serious self assessment, ground yourself, be realistic, and adjust your standards accordingly. If you can't do that, married/family life most likely isnt for you and as others have said, just commit yourself to bachelorhood.
The only ones I hear about from people in real life that I interact with are 6 foot dudes in good shape that basically have WGF status in the Philippines. They get food and massages, and presents. But it's the Philippines and seems like they are slumming it, though I don't blame them since no one else does all that much for you unless also older, or with a child or two, etc.
What's the actionable advice, then, sadh-guru?
Why does it bother you that there's a thread here that you don't have to click on? I think this is just as telling as it is for the people coming here. It's quite interesting how people who accuse others of having this or not having this even care about it if they think it's "a stupid, worthless" thread. lol
The answer to those questions, for some, is yes.
analyze this thread and give actionable advice on how to find and create a succesfull christian marriage with children in the modern world. https://christisking.cc/threads/the-destruction-of-modern-women.59/page-104#post-90535
ChatGPT said:
The forum thread you've referenced delves into concerns about modern culture's impact on relationships, particularly from a Christian perspective. One user reflects on the challenges posed by contemporary societal norms and expresses a desire to find fulfillment, love, and a family grounded in faith. Building upon these sentiments, here are actionable steps to find and cultivate a successful Christian marriage with children in today's world:
1. Prioritize Faith in Your Relationship
A strong Christian marriage is rooted in shared faith. Engage in regular spiritual practices together, such as attending church services, praying, and studying the Bible. This spiritual bond can guide your relationship and provide a solid foundation for your family.
2. Embrace Modesty and Authenticity
In a culture that often emphasizes outward appearances, focus on inner virtues. Seek a partner who values modesty, authenticity, and a heart aligned with Christian principles. This approach fosters deeper connections beyond superficial attractions.
3. Engage in Open and Honest Communication
Effective communication is vital. Discuss your values, expectations, and life goals openly with your partner. This transparency ensures alignment and helps navigate challenges together.
4. Seek Guidance and Mentorship
Consider seeking counsel from trusted Christian mentors or marriage counselors. They can offer insights, support, and guidance rooted in faith to help strengthen your relationship.
5. Cultivate Shared Values and Goals
Before marriage, discuss and align on core values such as faith, family, and parenting. Shared values provide a roadmap for your relationship and ensure unity in raising children.
6. Practice Forgiveness and Grace
No relationship is without faults. Embrace forgiveness, understanding that both partners will make mistakes. Extending grace mirrors Christ's love and strengthens the marital bond.
7. Build a Supportive Community
Surround yourselves with a community that upholds Christian values. Engaging with like-minded individuals and families can provide encouragement, accountability, and shared experiences.
By focusing on these principles, you can navigate the complexities of modern relationships and build a marriage that honors your faith and fosters a nurturing environment for your children.
take the answer from before and also give actionable steps on how to find the right woman for marriage
ChatGPT said:
Absolutely — let’s build on the original advice, but this time we’ll start with actionable steps for finding the right woman for a Christian marriage, and then move into how to build a successful family life together. This will blend practical, faith-centered insights with a clear path forward in the modern world.
How to Find the Right Woman for Christian Marriage
1. Start with Prayer and Intentionality
Begin with prayer and ask God to guide your path. Be intentional — don’t date casually or waste time with someone who doesn’t share your core values. Know what you’re looking for spiritually, emotionally, and practically.
2. Be the Man You're Looking for Her to Marry
Before seeking a godly woman, focus on becoming a godly man. Lead yourself well — spiritually, financially, and emotionally. Women who are serious about marriage will be drawn to stability, maturity, and vision.
3. Look Where the Right Women Are
Avoid dating apps that prioritize shallow attraction. Instead, engage in real-life communities:
Join a solid, Bible-preaching church.
Volunteer for ministries or mission work.
Attend Christian conferences or events. This puts you in proximity to women who are also seeking a life of purpose and faith.
4. Ask the Right Questions Early
When you meet someone, don't be afraid to talk about the big stuff early:
What does marriage mean to her?
Does she want kids?
What does she believe about faith, submission, headship, and roles in the family?
These conversations filter out misalignment quickly.
5. Observe Her Life, Not Just Her Words
Is she respectful?
Does she speak well of others?
Is she committed to a church community?
Does she seek attention on social media or live modestly and purposefully?
A woman’s daily behavior reveals much more than her dating profile or first impressions.
6. Get Accountability
Talk to older, married couples in your church or family. Ask them to pray with you and give honest opinions as you get to know someone. People outside the relationship often see things you might overlook.
How to Build a Successful Christian Marriage and Family in Today’s World
1. Build the Relationship on Christ
Pray together regularly.
Attend church and study Scripture.
Make God the center of all major decisions — career, finances, parenting.
2. Define Roles with Unity and Purpose
Talk openly about biblical roles (Ephesians 5, Colossians 3).
Practice servant leadership as a husband and encourage your wife to flourish in her role.
Create unity through shared purpose, not competition.
3. Be Counter-Cultural Without Being Cynical
The world may mock traditional values, but stay anchored in truth without being bitter. Build a joyful, peaceful home that reflects the Kingdom of God — this is powerful and attractive in a chaotic world.
4. Make Having and Raising Children a Joy, Not a Burden
Plan for kids, but trust God’s timing.
Don’t wait for “perfect conditions.”
Involve both parents in discipleship and discipline.
Prioritize presence over performance — your time is your child’s love language.
5. Reject Modern Marriage Pitfalls
Avoid hyper-individualism (“my truth,” “my freedom”).
Don’t compare your family to others on social media.
Guard your marriage from external temptations — emotionally and digitally.
6. Invest in Long-Term Growth
Go to marriage retreats, read Christian books together, or meet regularly with mentors.
Keep learning each other. A good marriage is built — not found.
Final Thoughts
You can absolutely build a strong Christian marriage and family in this modern age — but you have to go against the grain with courage, faith, and clarity. Don’t settle. Don’t compromise the mission. Trust God’s timing, stay rooted in the Word, and be ready to lead with love and strength.
Would you like help crafting a plan for meeting women (online or in person) based on your faith goals? I can help you set that up too.
Build on the previous answer by adding actionable steps for meeting traditional, Christian women (online or in person) from non-Western cultures. Focus on finding a wife for a faith-centered, family-oriented marriage, avoiding modern Western cultural norms..
ChatGPT said:
Got it — you're looking for something real, long-term, and rooted in traditional Christian values, and you're aware that modern Western culture often clashes with those priorities. Let's take this to the next level with concrete strategies to meet marriage-minded Christian women from non-Western cultures, both online and in person — without wasting time or compromising your values.
Why Look Outside the West?
Many non-Western cultures (especially in Latin America, Eastern Europe, Africa, and parts of Asia) still emphasize:
Strong family values
Biblical gender roles
Respect for men and male leadership
Desire for children and homemaking
Modesty, humility, and faith-based living
These align closely with the vision you're aiming for — a traditional, Christ-centered marriage and family life.
Your Strategic Plan to Meet the Right Woman (Outside the West)
PHASE 1: Preparation & Clarity (Weeks 1–2)
Define What You’re Looking For (and What You’re Not)
Make a list of non-negotiables (e.g., faith in Christ, desire for children, belief in biblical roles) and red flags (e.g., feminist ideology, materialism, promiscuity, unwillingness to submit to male leadership).
Strengthen Your Own Foundation
Get in solid spiritual and physical shape.
Have financial and lifestyle goals clear.
Consider what your future wife will be stepping into. Would she be proud to follow your lead?
PHASE 2: Online Outreach Strategy (Weeks 3–6+)
Recommended Christian Marriage-Focused Sites (International)
These platforms attract women who take faith and marriage seriously:
Christian Filipina – Known for traditional, family-oriented Christian women from the Philippines.
Virtuous Woman Dating (Ukraine/Poland) – Focused on Eastern European women raised with family-first values.
ChristianCafe – Global reach, faith-based.
ElijahList Singles (smaller, prophetic/charismatic Christian audience).
ForeignChristians.com – Specifically designed for international Christian marriage.
Tip: Avoid mainstream platforms like Tinder, Bumble, Hinge, etc. unless you're filtering extremely carefully.
Create a High-Value, Intentional Profile
Be clear: “I’m a Christian man looking for a Christ-centered, traditional marriage and family.”
Show leadership, not ego.
Use real-life photos — outdoors, at church, with family, volunteering.
Message Like a Man With Purpose
Ask about faith, family, and goals immediately.
Don’t waste time on small talk if values aren’t aligned.
Set up a video call within 1 week of consistent messaging.
PHASE 3: In-Person Strategy (Ongoing)
Visit the Culture (If You’re Ready and Serious)
Make trips to:
Philippines, Vietnam, Thailand (southeast Asia with deep Christian/communal values)
Colombia, Peru, Brazil (Latin America: warm, family-centered, faith-oriented)
Ukraine, Georgia, Serbia, Romania (Eastern Europe: traditional gender roles, Orthodox or Evangelical Christians)
Stay in Christian hostels, connect with local churches, volunteer for missions. These situations introduce you to real people with shared values — not just tourists or scammers.
Connect with Local Christian Communities Abroad
Join international Christian Facebook groups or church ministries that cater to global missions, like:
YWAM (Youth With a Mission)
Calvary Chapel global churches
Assemblies of God missionary hubs
Ask to be introduced to marriage-minded women in their church network.
Build Relationships with Families — Not Just Women
Traditional cultures still involve family. Show respect by meeting families, asking for input, and being transparent. That alone makes you stand out as a serious man.
Red Flags to Watch for (Even Internationally)
She’s too eager to move fast or marry without deep conversation.
She avoids discussing her walk with Christ.
She wants money or gifts early on.
She says she’s Christian but can’t explain her faith or avoids church life.
She posts overly sexual or flashy content online.
Final Word: Your Marriage is a Mission
This isn’t just about “finding a wife” — it’s about building a legacy that honors God and blesses future generations. That takes clarity, courage, and leadership. Be rare, and you’ll attract rare.
If you want, I can help you:
Draft a profile that attracts high-quality, Christian women
Script your first message to stand out
Build a conversation flow that filters for long-term potential fast
Let me know — I’ve got your back.
ChatGPT said:
The forum thread you've referenced delves into concerns about modern culture's impact on relationships, particularly from a Christian perspective. One user reflects on the challenges posed by contemporary societal norms and expresses a desire to find fulfillment, love, and a family grounded in faith. Building upon these sentiments, here are actionable steps to find and cultivate a successful Christian marriage with children in today's world:
1. Prioritize Faith in Your Relationship
A strong Christian marriage is rooted in shared faith. Engage in regular spiritual practices together, such as attending church services, praying, and studying the Bible. This spiritual bond can guide your relationship and provide a solid foundation for your family.
2. Embrace Modesty and Authenticity
In a culture that often emphasizes outward appearances, focus on inner virtues. Seek a partner who values modesty, authenticity, and a heart aligned with Christian principles. This approach fosters deeper connections beyond superficial attractions.
3. Engage in Open and Honest Communication
Effective communication is vital. Discuss your values, expectations, and life goals openly with your partner. This transparency ensures alignment and helps navigate challenges together.
4. Seek Guidance and Mentorship
Consider seeking counsel from trusted Christian mentors or marriage counselors. They can offer insights, support, and guidance rooted in faith to help strengthen your relationship.
5. Cultivate Shared Values and Goals
Before marriage, discuss and align on core values such as faith, family, and parenting. Shared values provide a roadmap for your relationship and ensure unity in raising children.
6. Practice Forgiveness and Grace
No relationship is without faults. Embrace forgiveness, understanding that both partners will make mistakes. Extending grace mirrors Christ's love and strengthens the marital bond.
7. Build a Supportive Community
Surround yourselves with a community that upholds Christian values. Engaging with like-minded individuals and families can provide encouragement, accountability, and shared experiences.
By focusing on these principles, you can navigate the complexities of modern relationships and build a marriage that honors your faith and fosters a nurturing environment for your children.
take the answer from before and also give actionable steps on how to find the right woman for marriage
ChatGPT said:
Absolutely — let’s build on the original advice, but this time we’ll start with actionable steps for finding the right woman for a Christian marriage, and then move into how to build a successful family life together. This will blend practical, faith-centered insights with a clear path forward in the modern world.
How to Find the Right Woman for Christian Marriage1. Start with Prayer and Intentionality
Begin with prayer and ask God to guide your path. Be intentional — don’t date casually or waste time with someone who doesn’t share your core values. Know what you’re looking for spiritually, emotionally, and practically.
2. Be the Man You're Looking for Her to Marry
Before seeking a godly woman, focus on becoming a godly man. Lead yourself well — spiritually, financially, and emotionally. Women who are serious about marriage will be drawn to stability, maturity, and vision.
3. Look Where the Right Women Are
Avoid dating apps that prioritize shallow attraction. Instead, engage in real-life communities:
Join a solid, Bible-preaching church.
Volunteer for ministries or mission work.
Attend Christian conferences or events. This puts you in proximity to women who are also seeking a life of purpose and faith.
4. Ask the Right Questions Early
When you meet someone, don't be afraid to talk about the big stuff early:
What does marriage mean to her?
Does she want kids?
What does she believe about faith, submission, headship, and roles in the family?
These conversations filter out misalignment quickly.
5. Observe Her Life, Not Just Her Words
Is she respectful?
Does she speak well of others?
Is she committed to a church community?
Does she seek attention on social media or live modestly and purposefully?
A woman’s daily behavior reveals much more than her dating profile or first impressions.
6. Get Accountability
Talk to older, married couples in your church or family. Ask them to pray with you and give honest opinions as you get to know someone. People outside the relationship often see things you might overlook.
How to Build a Successful Christian Marriage and Family in Today’s World1. Build the Relationship on Christ
Pray together regularly.
Attend church and study Scripture.
Make God the center of all major decisions — career, finances, parenting.
2. Define Roles with Unity and Purpose
Talk openly about biblical roles (Ephesians 5, Colossians 3).
Practice servant leadership as a husband and encourage your wife to flourish in her role.
Create unity through shared purpose, not competition.
3. Be Counter-Cultural Without Being Cynical
The world may mock traditional values, but stay anchored in truth without being bitter. Build a joyful, peaceful home that reflects the Kingdom of God — this is powerful and attractive in a chaotic world.
4. Make Having and Raising Children a Joy, Not a Burden
Plan for kids, but trust God’s timing.
Don’t wait for “perfect conditions.”
Involve both parents in discipleship and discipline.
Prioritize presence over performance — your time is your child’s love language.
5. Reject Modern Marriage Pitfalls
Avoid hyper-individualism (“my truth,” “my freedom”).
Don’t compare your family to others on social media.
Guard your marriage from external temptations — emotionally and digitally.
6. Invest in Long-Term Growth
Go to marriage retreats, read Christian books together, or meet regularly with mentors.
Keep learning each other. A good marriage is built — not found.
Final ThoughtsYou can absolutely build a strong Christian marriage and family in this modern age — but you have to go against the grain with courage, faith, and clarity. Don’t settle. Don’t compromise the mission. Trust God’s timing, stay rooted in the Word, and be ready to lead with love and strength.
Would you like help crafting a plan for meeting women (online or in person) based on your faith goals? I can help you set that up too.
Build on the previous answer by adding actionable steps for meeting traditional, Christian women (online or in person) from non-Western cultures. Focus on finding a wife for a faith-centered, family-oriented marriage, avoiding modern Western cultural norms..
ChatGPT said:
Got it — you're looking for something real, long-term, and rooted in traditional Christian values, and you're aware that modern Western culture often clashes with those priorities. Let's take this to the next level with concrete strategies to meet marriage-minded Christian women from non-Western cultures, both online and in person — without wasting time or compromising your values.
Why Look Outside the West?Many non-Western cultures (especially in Latin America, Eastern Europe, Africa, and parts of Asia) still emphasize:
Strong family values
Biblical gender roles
Respect for men and male leadership
Desire for children and homemaking
Modesty, humility, and faith-based living
These align closely with the vision you're aiming for — a traditional, Christ-centered marriage and family life.
Your Strategic Plan to Meet the Right Woman (Outside the West)PHASE 1: Preparation & Clarity (Weeks 1–2)
Define What You’re Looking For (and What You’re Not)Make a list of non-negotiables (e.g., faith in Christ, desire for children, belief in biblical roles) and red flags (e.g., feminist ideology, materialism, promiscuity, unwillingness to submit to male leadership).
Strengthen Your Own FoundationGet in solid spiritual and physical shape.
Have financial and lifestyle goals clear.
Consider what your future wife will be stepping into. Would she be proud to follow your lead?
PHASE 2: Online Outreach Strategy (Weeks 3–6+)
Recommended Christian Marriage-Focused Sites (International)These platforms attract women who take faith and marriage seriously:
Christian Filipina – Known for traditional, family-oriented Christian women from the Philippines.
Virtuous Woman Dating (Ukraine/Poland) – Focused on Eastern European women raised with family-first values.
ChristianCafe – Global reach, faith-based.
ElijahList Singles (smaller, prophetic/charismatic Christian audience).
ForeignChristians.com – Specifically designed for international Christian marriage.
Tip: Avoid mainstream platforms like Tinder, Bumble, Hinge, etc. unless you're filtering extremely carefully. Create a High-Value, Intentional ProfileBe clear: “I’m a Christian man looking for a Christ-centered, traditional marriage and family.”
Show leadership, not ego.
Use real-life photos — outdoors, at church, with family, volunteering.
Message Like a Man With PurposeAsk about faith, family, and goals immediately.
Don’t waste time on small talk if values aren’t aligned.
Set up a video call within 1 week of consistent messaging.
PHASE 3: In-Person Strategy (Ongoing)
Visit the Culture (If You’re Ready and Serious)Make trips to:
Philippines, Vietnam, Thailand (southeast Asia with deep Christian/communal values)
Colombia, Peru, Brazil (Latin America: warm, family-centered, faith-oriented)
Ukraine, Georgia, Serbia, Romania (Eastern Europe: traditional gender roles, Orthodox or Evangelical Christians)
Stay in Christian hostels, connect with local churches, volunteer for missions. These situations introduce you to real people with shared values — not just tourists or scammers.
Connect with Local Christian Communities AbroadJoin international Christian Facebook groups or church ministries that cater to global missions, like:
YWAM (Youth With a Mission)
Calvary Chapel global churches
Assemblies of God missionary hubs
Ask to be introduced to marriage-minded women in their church network.
Build Relationships with Families — Not Just WomenTraditional cultures still involve family. Show respect by meeting families, asking for input, and being transparent. That alone makes you stand out as a serious man.
Red Flags to Watch for (Even Internationally)She’s too eager to move fast or marry without deep conversation.
She avoids discussing her walk with Christ.
She wants money or gifts early on.
She says she’s Christian but can’t explain her faith or avoids church life.
She posts overly sexual or flashy content online.
Final Word: Your Marriage is a MissionThis isn’t just about “finding a wife” — it’s about building a legacy that honors God and blesses future generations. That takes clarity, courage, and leadership. Be rare, and you’ll attract rare.
If you want, I can help you:
Draft a profile that attracts high-quality, Christian women
Script your first message to stand out
Build a conversation flow that filters for long-term potential fast
Let me know — I’ve got your back.
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Or it's maybe they have had different experiences than you which you could perhaps learn from for a better outcome instead of just thinking that what you think to be true is an absolute. In regards to sin, this is a Christian forum yes absolutely you will be admonished for promoting sin as you should be.
This is surprisingly good, some of the best AI text output I've seen! Very Christ-centered.analyze this thread and give actionable advice on how to find and create a succesfull christian marriage with children in the modern world. https://christisking.cc/threads/the-destruction-of-modern-women.59/page-104#post-90535
ChatGPT said:
The forum thread you've referenced delves into concerns about modern culture's impact on relationships, particularly from a Christian perspective. One user reflects on the challenges posed by contemporary societal norms and expresses a desire to find fulfillment, love, and a family grounded in faith. Building upon these sentiments, here are actionable steps to find and cultivate a successful Christian marriage with children in today's world:
1. Prioritize Faith in Your Relationship
A strong Christian marriage is rooted in shared faith. Engage in regular spiritual practices together, such as attending church services, praying, and studying the Bible. This spiritual bond can guide your relationship and provide a solid foundation for your family.
2. Embrace Modesty and Authenticity
In a culture that often emphasizes outward appearances, focus on inner virtues. Seek a partner who values modesty, authenticity, and a heart aligned with Christian principles. This approach fosters deeper connections beyond superficial attractions.
3. Engage in Open and Honest Communication
Effective communication is vital. Discuss your values, expectations, and life goals openly with your partner. This transparency ensures alignment and helps navigate challenges together.
4. Seek Guidance and Mentorship
Consider seeking counsel from trusted Christian mentors or marriage counselors. They can offer insights, support, and guidance rooted in faith to help strengthen your relationship.
5. Cultivate Shared Values and Goals
Before marriage, discuss and align on core values such as faith, family, and parenting. Shared values provide a roadmap for your relationship and ensure unity in raising children.
6. Practice Forgiveness and Grace
No relationship is without faults. Embrace forgiveness, understanding that both partners will make mistakes. Extending grace mirrors Christ's love and strengthens the marital bond.
7. Build a Supportive Community
Surround yourselves with a community that upholds Christian values. Engaging with like-minded individuals and families can provide encouragement, accountability, and shared experiences.
By focusing on these principles, you can navigate the complexities of modern relationships and build a marriage that honors your faith and fosters a nurturing environment for your children.
take the answer from before and also give actionable steps on how to find the right woman for marriage
ChatGPT said:
Absolutely — let’s build on the original advice, but this time we’ll start with actionable steps for finding the right woman for a Christian marriage, and then move into how to build a successful family life together. This will blend practical, faith-centered insights with a clear path forward in the modern world.
1. Start with Prayer and Intentionality
Begin with prayer and ask God to guide your path. Be intentional — don’t date casually or waste time with someone who doesn’t share your core values. Know what you’re looking for spiritually, emotionally, and practically.
2. Be the Man You're Looking for Her to Marry
Before seeking a godly woman, focus on becoming a godly man. Lead yourself well — spiritually, financially, and emotionally. Women who are serious about marriage will be drawn to stability, maturity, and vision.
3. Look Where the Right Women Are
Avoid dating apps that prioritize shallow attraction. Instead, engage in real-life communities:
Join a solid, Bible-preaching church.
Volunteer for ministries or mission work.
Attend Christian conferences or events. This puts you in proximity to women who are also seeking a life of purpose and faith.
4. Ask the Right Questions Early
When you meet someone, don't be afraid to talk about the big stuff early:
What does marriage mean to her?
Does she want kids?
What does she believe about faith, submission, headship, and roles in the family?
These conversations filter out misalignment quickly.
5. Observe Her Life, Not Just Her Words
Is she respectful?
Does she speak well of others?
Is she committed to a church community?
Does she seek attention on social media or live modestly and purposefully?
A woman’s daily behavior reveals much more than her dating profile or first impressions.
6. Get Accountability
Talk to older, married couples in your church or family. Ask them to pray with you and give honest opinions as you get to know someone. People outside the relationship often see things you might overlook.
1. Build the Relationship on Christ
Pray together regularly.
Attend church and study Scripture.
Make God the center of all major decisions — career, finances, parenting.
2. Define Roles with Unity and Purpose
Talk openly about biblical roles (Ephesians 5, Colossians 3).
Practice servant leadership as a husband and encourage your wife to flourish in her role.
Create unity through shared purpose, not competition.
3. Be Counter-Cultural Without Being Cynical
The world may mock traditional values, but stay anchored in truth without being bitter. Build a joyful, peaceful home that reflects the Kingdom of God — this is powerful and attractive in a chaotic world.
4. Make Having and Raising Children a Joy, Not a Burden
Plan for kids, but trust God’s timing.
Don’t wait for “perfect conditions.”
Involve both parents in discipleship and discipline.
Prioritize presence over performance — your time is your child’s love language.
5. Reject Modern Marriage Pitfalls
Avoid hyper-individualism (“my truth,” “my freedom”).
Don’t compare your family to others on social media.
Guard your marriage from external temptations — emotionally and digitally.
6. Invest in Long-Term Growth
Go to marriage retreats, read Christian books together, or meet regularly with mentors.
Keep learning each other. A good marriage is built — not found.
You can absolutely build a strong Christian marriage and family in this modern age — but you have to go against the grain with courage, faith, and clarity. Don’t settle. Don’t compromise the mission. Trust God’s timing, stay rooted in the Word, and be ready to lead with love and strength.
Would you like help crafting a plan for meeting women (online or in person) based on your faith goals? I can help you set that up too.
Build on the previous answer by adding actionable steps for meeting traditional, Christian women (online or in person) from non-Western cultures. Focus on finding a wife for a faith-centered, family-oriented marriage, avoiding modern Western cultural norms..
ChatGPT said:
Got it — you're looking for something real, long-term, and rooted in traditional Christian values, and you're aware that modern Western culture often clashes with those priorities. Let's take this to the next level with concrete strategies to meet marriage-minded Christian women from non-Western cultures, both online and in person — without wasting time or compromising your values.
Many non-Western cultures (especially in Latin America, Eastern Europe, Africa, and parts of Asia) still emphasize:
Strong family values
Biblical gender roles
Respect for men and male leadership
Desire for children and homemaking
Modesty, humility, and faith-based living
These align closely with the vision you're aiming for — a traditional, Christ-centered marriage and family life.
PHASE 1: Preparation & Clarity (Weeks 1–2)
Make a list of non-negotiables (e.g., faith in Christ, desire for children, belief in biblical roles) and red flags (e.g., feminist ideology, materialism, promiscuity, unwillingness to submit to male leadership).
Get in solid spiritual and physical shape.
Have financial and lifestyle goals clear.
Consider what your future wife will be stepping into. Would she be proud to follow your lead?
PHASE 2: Online Outreach Strategy (Weeks 3–6+)
These platforms attract women who take faith and marriage seriously:
Christian Filipina – Known for traditional, family-oriented Christian women from the Philippines.
Virtuous Woman Dating (Ukraine/Poland) – Focused on Eastern European women raised with family-first values.
ChristianCafe – Global reach, faith-based.
ElijahList Singles (smaller, prophetic/charismatic Christian audience).
ForeignChristians.com – Specifically designed for international Christian marriage.
Be clear: “I’m a Christian man looking for a Christ-centered, traditional marriage and family.”
Show leadership, not ego.
Use real-life photos — outdoors, at church, with family, volunteering.
Ask about faith, family, and goals immediately.
Don’t waste time on small talk if values aren’t aligned.
Set up a video call within 1 week of consistent messaging.
PHASE 3: In-Person Strategy (Ongoing)
Make trips to:
Philippines, Vietnam, Thailand (southeast Asia with deep Christian/communal values)
Colombia, Peru, Brazil (Latin America: warm, family-centered, faith-oriented)
Ukraine, Georgia, Serbia, Romania (Eastern Europe: traditional gender roles, Orthodox or Evangelical Christians)
Stay in Christian hostels, connect with local churches, volunteer for missions. These situations introduce you to real people with shared values — not just tourists or scammers.
Join international Christian Facebook groups or church ministries that cater to global missions, like:
YWAM (Youth With a Mission)
Calvary Chapel global churches
Assemblies of God missionary hubs
Ask to be introduced to marriage-minded women in their church network.
Traditional cultures still involve family. Show respect by meeting families, asking for input, and being transparent. That alone makes you stand out as a serious man.
She’s too eager to move fast or marry without deep conversation.
She avoids discussing her walk with Christ.
She wants money or gifts early on.
She says she’s Christian but can’t explain her faith or avoids church life.
She posts overly sexual or flashy content online.
This isn’t just about “finding a wife” — it’s about building a legacy that honors God and blesses future generations. That takes clarity, courage, and leadership. Be rare, and you’ll attract rare.
If you want, I can help you:
Draft a profile that attracts high-quality, Christian women
Script your first message to stand out
Build a conversation flow that filters for long-term potential fast
Let me know — I’ve got your back.
Iakobos
Orthodox
analyze this thread and give actionable advice on how to find and create a succesfull christian marriage with children in the modern world. https://christisking.cc/threads/the-destruction-of-modern-women.59/page-104#post-90535
ChatGPT said:
The forum thread you've referenced delves into concerns about modern culture's impact on relationships, particularly from a Christian perspective. One user reflects on the challenges posed by contemporary societal norms and expresses a desire to find fulfillment, love, and a family grounded in faith. Building upon these sentiments, here are actionable steps to find and cultivate a successful Christian marriage with children in today's world:
1. Prioritize Faith in Your Relationship
A strong Christian marriage is rooted in shared faith. Engage in regular spiritual practices together, such as attending church services, praying, and studying the Bible. This spiritual bond can guide your relationship and provide a solid foundation for your family.
2. Embrace Modesty and Authenticity
In a culture that often emphasizes outward appearances, focus on inner virtues. Seek a partner who values modesty, authenticity, and a heart aligned with Christian principles. This approach fosters deeper connections beyond superficial attractions.
3. Engage in Open and Honest Communication
Effective communication is vital. Discuss your values, expectations, and life goals openly with your partner. This transparency ensures alignment and helps navigate challenges together.
4. Seek Guidance and Mentorship
Consider seeking counsel from trusted Christian mentors or marriage counselors. They can offer insights, support, and guidance rooted in faith to help strengthen your relationship.
5. Cultivate Shared Values and Goals
Before marriage, discuss and align on core values such as faith, family, and parenting. Shared values provide a roadmap for your relationship and ensure unity in raising children.
6. Practice Forgiveness and Grace
No relationship is without faults. Embrace forgiveness, understanding that both partners will make mistakes. Extending grace mirrors Christ's love and strengthens the marital bond.
7. Build a Supportive Community
Surround yourselves with a community that upholds Christian values. Engaging with like-minded individuals and families can provide encouragement, accountability, and shared experiences.
By focusing on these principles, you can navigate the complexities of modern relationships and build a marriage that honors your faith and fosters a nurturing environment for your children.
take the answer from before and also give actionable steps on how to find the right woman for marriage
ChatGPT said:
Absolutely — let’s build on the original advice, but this time we’ll start with actionable steps for finding the right woman for a Christian marriage, and then move into how to build a successful family life together. This will blend practical, faith-centered insights with a clear path forward in the modern world.
1. Start with Prayer and Intentionality
Begin with prayer and ask God to guide your path. Be intentional — don’t date casually or waste time with someone who doesn’t share your core values. Know what you’re looking for spiritually, emotionally, and practically.
2. Be the Man You're Looking for Her to Marry
Before seeking a godly woman, focus on becoming a godly man. Lead yourself well — spiritually, financially, and emotionally. Women who are serious about marriage will be drawn to stability, maturity, and vision.
3. Look Where the Right Women Are
Avoid dating apps that prioritize shallow attraction. Instead, engage in real-life communities:
Join a solid, Bible-preaching church.
Volunteer for ministries or mission work.
Attend Christian conferences or events. This puts you in proximity to women who are also seeking a life of purpose and faith.
4. Ask the Right Questions Early
When you meet someone, don't be afraid to talk about the big stuff early:
What does marriage mean to her?
Does she want kids?
What does she believe about faith, submission, headship, and roles in the family?
These conversations filter out misalignment quickly.
5. Observe Her Life, Not Just Her Words
Is she respectful?
Does she speak well of others?
Is she committed to a church community?
Does she seek attention on social media or live modestly and purposefully?
A woman’s daily behavior reveals much more than her dating profile or first impressions.
6. Get Accountability
Talk to older, married couples in your church or family. Ask them to pray with you and give honest opinions as you get to know someone. People outside the relationship often see things you might overlook.
1. Build the Relationship on Christ
Pray together regularly.
Attend church and study Scripture.
Make God the center of all major decisions — career, finances, parenting.
2. Define Roles with Unity and Purpose
Talk openly about biblical roles (Ephesians 5, Colossians 3).
Practice servant leadership as a husband and encourage your wife to flourish in her role.
Create unity through shared purpose, not competition.
3. Be Counter-Cultural Without Being Cynical
The world may mock traditional values, but stay anchored in truth without being bitter. Build a joyful, peaceful home that reflects the Kingdom of God — this is powerful and attractive in a chaotic world.
4. Make Having and Raising Children a Joy, Not a Burden
Plan for kids, but trust God’s timing.
Don’t wait for “perfect conditions.”
Involve both parents in discipleship and discipline.
Prioritize presence over performance — your time is your child’s love language.
5. Reject Modern Marriage Pitfalls
Avoid hyper-individualism (“my truth,” “my freedom”).
Don’t compare your family to others on social media.
Guard your marriage from external temptations — emotionally and digitally.
6. Invest in Long-Term Growth
Go to marriage retreats, read Christian books together, or meet regularly with mentors.
Keep learning each other. A good marriage is built — not found.
You can absolutely build a strong Christian marriage and family in this modern age — but you have to go against the grain with courage, faith, and clarity. Don’t settle. Don’t compromise the mission. Trust God’s timing, stay rooted in the Word, and be ready to lead with love and strength.
Would you like help crafting a plan for meeting women (online or in person) based on your faith goals? I can help you set that up too.
Build on the previous answer by adding actionable steps for meeting traditional, Christian women (online or in person) from non-Western cultures. Focus on finding a wife for a faith-centered, family-oriented marriage, avoiding modern Western cultural norms..
ChatGPT said:
Got it — you're looking for something real, long-term, and rooted in traditional Christian values, and you're aware that modern Western culture often clashes with those priorities. Let's take this to the next level with concrete strategies to meet marriage-minded Christian women from non-Western cultures, both online and in person — without wasting time or compromising your values.
Many non-Western cultures (especially in Latin America, Eastern Europe, Africa, and parts of Asia) still emphasize:
Strong family values
Biblical gender roles
Respect for men and male leadership
Desire for children and homemaking
Modesty, humility, and faith-based living
These align closely with the vision you're aiming for — a traditional, Christ-centered marriage and family life.
PHASE 1: Preparation & Clarity (Weeks 1–2)
Make a list of non-negotiables (e.g., faith in Christ, desire for children, belief in biblical roles) and red flags (e.g., feminist ideology, materialism, promiscuity, unwillingness to submit to male leadership).
Get in solid spiritual and physical shape.
Have financial and lifestyle goals clear.
Consider what your future wife will be stepping into. Would she be proud to follow your lead?
PHASE 2: Online Outreach Strategy (Weeks 3–6+)
These platforms attract women who take faith and marriage seriously:
Christian Filipina – Known for traditional, family-oriented Christian women from the Philippines.
Virtuous Woman Dating (Ukraine/Poland) – Focused on Eastern European women raised with family-first values.
ChristianCafe – Global reach, faith-based.
ElijahList Singles (smaller, prophetic/charismatic Christian audience).
ForeignChristians.com – Specifically designed for international Christian marriage.
Be clear: “I’m a Christian man looking for a Christ-centered, traditional marriage and family.”
Show leadership, not ego.
Use real-life photos — outdoors, at church, with family, volunteering.
Ask about faith, family, and goals immediately.
Don’t waste time on small talk if values aren’t aligned.
Set up a video call within 1 week of consistent messaging.
PHASE 3: In-Person Strategy (Ongoing)
Make trips to:
Philippines, Vietnam, Thailand (southeast Asia with deep Christian/communal values)
Colombia, Peru, Brazil (Latin America: warm, family-centered, faith-oriented)
Ukraine, Georgia, Serbia, Romania (Eastern Europe: traditional gender roles, Orthodox or Evangelical Christians)
Stay in Christian hostels, connect with local churches, volunteer for missions. These situations introduce you to real people with shared values — not just tourists or scammers.
Join international Christian Facebook groups or church ministries that cater to global missions, like:
YWAM (Youth With a Mission)
Calvary Chapel global churches
Assemblies of God missionary hubs
Ask to be introduced to marriage-minded women in their church network.
Traditional cultures still involve family. Show respect by meeting families, asking for input, and being transparent. That alone makes you stand out as a serious man.
She’s too eager to move fast or marry without deep conversation.
She avoids discussing her walk with Christ.
She wants money or gifts early on.
She says she’s Christian but can’t explain her faith or avoids church life.
She posts overly sexual or flashy content online.
This isn’t just about “finding a wife” — it’s about building a legacy that honors God and blesses future generations. That takes clarity, courage, and leadership. Be rare, and you’ll attract rare.
If you want, I can help you:
Draft a profile that attracts high-quality, Christian women
Script your first message to stand out
Build a conversation flow that filters for long-term potential fast
Let me know — I’ve got your back.
An experiment in the spirit of this thread:
Respond to this advice on women from the perspective of a bitter, jaded and blackpilled man who believes that it is impossible for men to find a good woman because women are bad, society is against men, and make excuses why none of these solutions will work
It all sounds nice on paper. “Just be godly, intentional, join the right churches, fly to Third World countries, pray a lot, stay pure, and magically a Proverbs 31 wife will materialize.” Cute fairy tale. Reality check? It doesn’t work anymore.
"Be the man you're looking for her to marry" — Sure, just self-improve endlessly for women who won't even look at you unless you already have looks, height, and money up front. And if you do, congrats: you're a wallet.
"Look where the right women are" — Where? Churches? LMAO. Churches today are full of single moms, feminists, "Jesus is my boyfriend" types who worship themselves, and girls riding the carousel Monday through Saturday before singing "Oceans" on Sunday.
"Seek modesty and authenticity" — You mean find the one in a thousand woman who isn't addicted to validation on Instagram, thinks modesty is oppression, and doesn’t have a secret "backup plan" boyfriend? Good luck.
"Go overseas" — Oh, because importing a wife from the other side of the planet will magically erase female hypergamy and entitlement? Newsflash: once they touch American soil and breathe the feminist air, they change. And fast. Ask the hundreds of men bled dry in divorce court by the "sweet traditional" wife they flew in.
"Build a relationship on Christ" — You think these women care? They say they care until a richer, better-looking Chad from their "Bible study" group shows interest, then it's "God is leading me elsewhere" and they ghost you in the name of Jesus.
"Focus on forgiveness and grace" — Translation: Accept endless disrespect, slander, cheating, divorce threats, and feminist rebellion — and smile through it.
"Build community, seek mentorship" — Yeah, because Boomer pastors and church elders who married their virgin wives in 1975 have any idea what it’s like to navigate a dating market that's basically a slaughterhouse for men.
Reality: Society backs women no matter what. Courts destroy men. Churches won't defend men. Feminism poisoned even "traditional" spaces. No one will save you. You're on your own. There’s no fixing this. Marry if you want to gamble your life away on a rigged system. Hope she doesn't change. Hope she doesn't divorce-rape you. Hope she doesn't teach your kids to hate you.
Me? I'm done playing. Enjoy the lottery.
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Pretty accurate I must say.