Dental Health

[RedLagoon]

Here we can share our experiences regarding dental health, something many people struggle with day to day. We can encourage others to brush their teeth at least TWICE a day and visit a dentist once a year, ok.

I just saw this vid:



How is dental care where you're at? Share the business here.

 

[Johnnyvee]

Nutrition in the sense of essential nutrients is always underestimated when it comes to dental health. Vit D, K2, calcium and phosphorous might be the most vital ones. If you can't get vit D from sunlight use a good cod liver oil supplement. (from wild caught cod, not omega-3 pills)

I feel that I fare better by not brushing in the morning, but just chewing a dental gum, then a black coffee a bit later. No food before lunch. You should really have an hour of water "fasting" both prior to and after brushing, since you damage the enamel somewhat. And use a soft bristle brush also.

 

[God's lonely asperger]

Britain's Worst Teeth

Ah 'lease we 'ave free 'elth cah, mate.

 

[DeWoken]

I feel that I fare better by not brushing in the morning, but just chewing a dental gum, then a black coffee a bit later. No food before lunch. You should really have an hour of water "fasting" both prior to and after brushing, since you damage the enamel somewhat. And use a soft bristle brush also.

I had been doing the no-brush in the morning for a number of years because I figured there was nothing to brush off, and like you mention enamel can get damaged. Going to the dentist for a deep clean for the first time in a while I was convinced to start doing the AM brush, though. There was some staining building up on the front teeth and brushing twice a day seems to help control it a bit better. Also, the hygienist mentioned how stuff grows on your teeth when you sleep even if you always brush and floss before bed. The bacteria on your teeth makes it easier for stains (from coffee, tobacco, etc) to take hold.

The cleaning process at the dentist must be pretty harsh on the enamel, so I figure I might as well do the extra brushing and maybe they'll take it easier on me. Already, I ask for minimal x-rays and no fluoride if possible.

 

[Johnnyvee]

I had been doing the no-brush in the morning for a number of years because I figured there was nothing to brush off, and like you mention enamel can get damaged. Going to the dentist for a deep clean for the first time in a while I was convinced to start doing the AM brush, though. There was some staining building up on the front teeth and brushing twice a day seems to help control it a bit better. Also, the hygienist mentioned how stuff grows on your teeth when you sleep even if you always brush and floss before bed. The bacteria on your teeth makes it easier for stains (from coffee, tobacco, etc) to take hold.

The cleaning process at the dentist must be pretty harsh on the enamel, so I figure I might as well do the extra brushing and maybe they'll take it easier on me. Already, I ask for minimal x-rays and no fluoride if possible.

What bacteria grows in the mouth is a similar dynamic to the gut microbiome. It's not that bacteria are bad, they're totally necessary of course, but it's a question of what bacteria and in what amounts relative to each other. Mut. streptococcus are strains that are predominant in the generation of caries, and it's well known that they like an acidic environment with sucrose in particular. You get the acidic environment from lactic acid generated by those strains when they do fermentation metabolism with sugar then. (+acidic drinks and foods) Fructose and glucose in plants and honey is not as bad as sucrose it seems. But I don't think they should be consumed daily for a few other reasons also.

Anyway, if you want no stains you have to give up coffee and tea, and maybe some other drinks and foods. I've not been able to do that as of yet. I feel that I've got better dental health with only brushing at night, but as I said I chew a dental gum in the morning and I don't eat or drink anything that will trigger what is basically a chronic bacterial infection in the mouth.

 

[DeWoken]

Anyway, if you want no stains you have to give up coffee and tea,

Yeah, it's another one of those topics where it seems simple at first glance, but it ain't

To add to my challenges with keeping the teeth looking nice I smoke pipe and drink a fair bit. I do manage to dodge most desserts and candies, though. I was eating apples that grow on my property but when I took a break I found my stomach was stronger (I guess they were stressing out my liver with too much fructose?).

 

[Callixtus]

I hadn't gone to the dentist in three years and finally went in when I had gum pain and bleeding. Turned out to be early signs of periodontal disease. I had to go in for a somewhat invasive deep clean, but the prognosis is good. Caught it in time before the damage became irreversible. I've always brushed and flossed twice a day, but it's just not enough to get everything. Modern diet plays a role I imagine, as does tobacco use.

 

[Cornelius V.E.]

Unless you love the dentist and love feeling like you need to take naps during the day, do not fall for the modern sugar (sucrose) infested diet. Avoid added sugars (which are all sucrose) like the plague that they are (they're in almost everything that the vast majority modern people eat and a huge historical anomaly). Natural sources of sugar (fructose in fruit, honey, etc) seem to be OK in limited amounts, but cavities are also found in monkeys that have a high fruit diet (while animals that don't eat fruits usually are cavity free). It also seems that lactose (the sugar found in milk) isn't too bad according to various studies.

If you do eat fruit, drink milk, etc, definitely rinse your mouth with water afterward and brush your teeth about 1 hour afterward.

 

[Get2choppaaa]

Unless you love the dentist and love feeling like you need to take naps during the day, do not fall for the modern sugar (sucrose) infested diet. Avoid added sugars (which are all sucrose) like the plague that they are (they're in almost everything that the vast majority modern people eat and a huge historical anomaly). Natural sources of sugar (fructose in fruit, honey, etc) seem to be OK in limited amounts, but cavities are also found in monkeys that have a high fruit diet (while animals that don't eat fruits usually are cavity free). It also seems that lactose (the sugar found in milk) isn't too bad according to various studies.

If you do eat fruit, drink milk, etc, definitely rinse your mouth with water afterward and brush your teeth about 1 hour afterward.

Erythritol is a good substitute for sugar and is good for gut health.

 

[Pointy Elbows]

Flossing is under-rated. Those little toothpick devices with the floss-end are great. Keeps the crud out, stimulates gums, and minimizes plaque buildup and passage from one tooth to the next.

Also, if you have acid-reflux, please tend to it (diet, less drinking/tobacco, antacid tablets). It will damage your lower rear molars.

 

[Tippy]

Just curious what people think here. I had a tooth extracted a while ago and never got the implant. I just didn't much like the idea of having a metal tooth in my mouth.

But I think there are consequences of not getting it.

I guess I'm just not sure what's best to do.


Any feedback on implants would be helpful.

Cheers!

 

[FrancisK]

Just curious what people think here. I had a tooth extracted a while ago and never got the implant. I just didn't much like the idea of having a metal tooth in my mouth.

But I think there are consequences of not getting it.

I guess I'm just not sure what's best to do.


Any feedback on implants would be helpful.

Cheers!

Is it in a spot where you can see it? Does it affect anything? If not then who cares. My sister is funny she got a gold tooth in the back because they last forever she jokes about it a lot, you can't ever see it anyway.

Coincidentally I was just proposed a business investment to bring in some top of the line implants from Sweden, the guy wants to expand to the USA. Did you know the very best of the best implants don't even cost $200? Most dentists buy crap ones that cost them around $80, also the machine to implant them is only a few thousand bucks. They also are not made to order, the companies that your dentist gets it from just have a thousand different variations of teeth and they match it up to yours.

One thing I can offer which may be helpful which I found out doing my DD on the potential business opportunity. There is actually a new technology coming down the pipe in the next few years which will make the current method and style of implants obsolete, it's already being used but it won't be the norm for a while.

 

[Tippy]

Is it in a spot where you can see it? Does it affect anything? If not then who cares. My sister is funny she got a gold tooth in the back because they last forever she jokes about it a lot, you can't ever see it anyway.

Coincidentally I was just proposed a business investment to bring in some top of the line implants from Sweden, the guy wants to expand to the USA. Did you know the very best of the best implants don't even cost $200? Most dentists buy crap ones that cost them around $80, also the machine to implant them is only a few thousand bucks. They also are not made to order, the companies that your dentist gets it from just have a thousand different variations of teeth and they match it up to yours.

One thing I can offer which may be helpful which I found out doing my DD on the potential business opportunity. There is actually a new technology coming down the pipe in the next few years which will make the current method and style of implants obsolete, it's already being used but it won't be the norm for a while.

Good to know.

I think the main reason is that I already had half the surgey. I had some drilling done to prepare for the implant and then just...didn't get it. So it seems kinda weird that I just had my mouth mutilated for no reason.

What kind of technology is that by the way?

 

[Let God Arise]

Assuming the missing tooth is in the back, where it's not visible, there is only one potential issue: shifting, which can affect the chewing mechanism. Your teeth are always moving and if there is a large gap, the other teeth with shift to fill that space, potentially misaligning some of them. Teeth don't just stay fixed permanently in one spot, but rely on the horizontal AND vertical position to stay in their correct place. In the same way, if say a pre-molar or molar is missing, the tooth directly above it will continue to grow downwards and become abnormally long, as well as the teeth adjacent shifting to fill the gap.

 

[GoodShepherd]

Within the last 3 years Iv lost 3 teeth, 2 extracted and the one I just let it stay there and break off on its own, the roots and 1/3 of the tooth are still there so it doesnt actually look as noticable as the extracted teeth.

Its not noticable at all, only when I laugh with my mouth open is it visible they are at the back, I didnt want to do any root canals because they can be bad for your health, I have zero interest in fixing my teeth but my wife really wants me too for her sake she likes a full mouth of teeth besides these missing teeth I have perfectly straight teeth, a colgate smile.

Yip I also dont like the idea of implanting a tooth or drilling into my jaw bone, Im concerned it can damage my jaw for no good reason.

 

[GoodShepherd]

Is it in a spot where you can see it? Does it affect anything? If not then who cares. My sister is funny she got a gold tooth in the back because they last forever she jokes about it a lot, you can't ever see it anyway.

Coincidentally I was just proposed a business investment to bring in some top of the line implants from Sweden, the guy wants to expand to the USA. Did you know the very best of the best implants don't even cost $200? Most dentists buy crap ones that cost them around $80, also the machine to implant them is only a few thousand bucks. They also are not made to order, the companies that your dentist gets it from just have a thousand different variations of teeth and they match it up to yours.

One thing I can offer which may be helpful which I found out doing my DD on the potential business opportunity. There is actually a new technology coming down the pipe in the next few years which will make the current method and style of implants obsolete, it's already being used but it won't be the norm for a while.

Where and how could I order myself something like this for my missing teeth? My wife wants me to sort out my missing teeth so just want to do it for her

 

[RedLagoon]

Maybe combine this thread (mods help us out) with the thread I made "dental health". Cheers

 

[Thomas More]

Within the last 3 years Iv lost 3 teeth, 2 extracted and the one I just let it stay there and break off on its own, the roots and 1/3 of the tooth are still there so it doesnt actually look as noticable as the extracted teeth.

Its not noticable at all, only when I laugh with my mouth open is it visible they are at the back, I didnt want to do any root canals because they can be bad for your health, I have zero interest in fixing my teeth but my wife really wants me too for her sake she likes a full mouth of teeth besides these missing teeth I have perfectly straight teeth, a colgate smile.

Yip I also dont like the idea of implanting a tooth or drilling into my jaw bone, Im concerned it can damage my jaw for no good reason.

I had a bad tooth that I let go for months last year, and finally got it yanked. They want a lot of money for a bridge, and even more for an implant, and it's way in the back, so I'm fine with leaving it out for now. I ended up having some cavities and bad fillings fixed too.

I realized in hindsight my tooth decay had been giving me bad breath, and was glad to have it fixed. After that experience, I started to notice when other people have untreated dental problems, just from their breath. There is a particular smell to tooth decay. I went out to lunch with a group from church recently, and two of the men had the problem noticeably.

I assume most people in this situation don't realize it. I'd recommend getting any deferred maintenance on teeth taken care of, at least as far as extractions and cavity repair.

 

[FrancisK]

Where and how could I order myself something like this for my missing teeth? My wife wants me to sort out my missing teeth so just want to do it for her

You wouldnt be able to, you still have to be trained on the machine and they wont do it if youre not a "doctor" it's not something you can do yourself at home. I don't know if you're in the USA but if you are I could potentially pull some strings for you if you're willing to travel to Michigan and I do proceed with investing in this business which it's looking like I might do, always happy to help any brother here with anything I possibly could.

That being said, go to a foreign country and get them done for next to nothing. There is nothing about dentistry where you need to be concerned about doing it outside the USA it's totally based on experience, the best doctor is just as good as the worst doctor because it's all just procedural.

 

[PurpleUrkel]

I am not a dentist but I am a future implant patient who has done a lot of research on the subject.

I had a tooth extracted a while ago and never got the implant....But I think there are consequences of not getting it.

There are...

Teeth don't just stay fixed permanently in one spot, but rely on the horizontal AND vertical position to stay in their correct place...

True. Your teeth on both sides of the empty socket have already begun shifting. You risk a "domino effect" of losing more teeth by not filling the empty space of the lost tooth. Your moving teeth will shift your bite thus putting your remaining teeth into unnatural positions of "stressful" contact with each other causing them to crack.

I'm getting 4 implants but first have to get braces to realign my bite because I waited too long.

That being said, go to a foreign country and get them done for next to nothing. There is nothing about dentistry where you need to be concerned about doing it outside the USA it's totally based on experience, the best doctor is just as good as the worst doctor because it's all just procedural.

I don't believe this to be true but will let a dentist (if we have one here) correct me if I'm wrong. Implants can be tricky sometimes requiring bone grafts and sinus lifts. Implants are major oral surgery and the better your surgeon the better your outcome. Like with anything else, you get what you pay for.

If you can't afford the best private care then I suggest a highly ranked dental school. At a world class dental school you can pay extra to have the professors (who are all professional dentists with years of experience) do your work and the students will assist. The great thing about a dental school is you have a team working on your dental issue(s)where there are lots of eyeballs on "the work" which ensures good, unrushed work with less errors. In addition, a dental school basically insures their work and should complications arise they are more likely to fix the problem without pushback and/or charging you more money.