My recent baptism experience

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I was recently baptised in the Orthodox church and I would like to share the experience here rather than in the Orthodox Christianity section because there are many people on this forum who are enquiring about Orthodoxy and many catechumans who have yet to be baptised. I would also like to mention that I was also baptised as a protestant before I was a teenager out of my own free will so to talk about this on the general Christianity section is a better option.

So at a young age I already had a desire for God and I never knew about Orthodox or any other churches besides the ones I grew up in, so I decided to get baptised, in case you are wonderin why I got baptised again in the Orthodox church I will explain.

One of the many reasons why I joined the Orthodox church was because I realized that there is only 1 church and I wasnt in it, to become Orthodox you first become an enquirer, then when you decide that this is for you then you become a catechuman and this process can take 1-2 years, some people longer, Jay Deyer for example was a Catechuman for 10 years. At the end of this process you finally get baptised and you are allowed to partake of the Eucharist (Holy Communion) and you are officially part of the church, so its not something you can microwave yourself into. As my priest explained, the Orthodox baptism is not to undermine or disrespect my first baptism but to complete what was left out.

Before the baptism date you have to find someone who will be your Godfather, this is important because once that person is your God father you are tied into them for life and you have a relationship with them so you need to take your time and chose wisely, the person you ask might also say no, you also need to have a patron saint assigned to you and usually you will get a 2nd name after your patron saint or if you have a saint that has the same name as yours like in my case then you retain your name. In the Orthodox church baptism first starts out with an exorcism outside the church doors, then the baptism is a triple immersions into the Trinity in something that looks like a giant champaen glass bath tub but made of steel or other material, then a Chrismation takes place where you get annointed with oil for the reception of the Holy Spirit, you also get a baptismal cross thats blessed etc, many other little things hapoen like the cutting of some of your hair as an offering to God, the entire baptism process lasts about 45min and its involves many things, ID books, birth certificates, you get registered with your arch Bishop and you even get a baptism certificate, its a pretty big deal and I didnt really know what to expect until a few days before my baptism so it was all a suprise to me. When you go home after the baptism you cant just take a shower you have to bath is a tub and collect all the water because of the blessed oil, you cant let it run into the sewers you have to pour the bath waters into the ground and even the clothes you were in must be washed this way and you not really supposed to wash your hair for 3 days after the baptism.

The experience I can liken to my wedding day or when my children were born, you know that these things are great blessings and I knew that baptism is a great blessing but you still trying to grasp what actually happened to you.

People who were present took some photos and even made me an album, I actually wish I dressed a bit better on the day but all I was thinking about was the actual baptism not all the other stuff. After the baptism we all went out for lunch for my family to meet my Godfather and to celebrate, I was baptised during lent so we were all still fasting but it was great that I got baptised during lent, during the Pascha season, I didnt plan it this way its just worked out this way, I disnt want to delay my baptism because its something I really wanted and there was a sense of urgency to me so rather sooner than later.
 
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How was your first baptism? Typically a priest will not baptize someone again, which means your first baptism was not in the name of the "Father, Son, and Holy Spirit"?

Also, I hope you have a great Godfather. May you be blessed and welcome to the Church brother!
My first baptism was only 1 immersion and I was very young I couldnt remember if it was done in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, so to be safe I did it the right way now, I also didnt get Chrismated obviously so that was done too, the Orthodox church will be my final resting place.
 
Pretty cool. I find people who are baptized as adults tend to have more credibility since they thought through the entire process. I was baptized as a Roman Catholic, but am not totally practicing. I don’t even remember my baptism. I feel your journey and this thread will benefit many, and I have many questions but I don’t want to derail it.
 
Wonderful. I will be baptized fairly soon as well. I totally agree with the sense of urgency and sooner rather than later.
I felt the same way, I also took the Catechuman process very seriously I ONLY read Orthodox book and only listened to Orthodox material during the catechuman process so I could be catechised as well as possible but as a priest here told me, we never stop being catechised we always learning its a life long process. I also had the phone number of my priest so I can send him messages about any questions I have and he would respond. I wish you the best with your baptism and may all go well with you, please share your story here and the struggles you wey through once its done🙏🏻
 
Pretty cool. I find people who are baptized as adults tend to have more credibility since they thought through the entire process. I was baptized as a Roman Catholic, but am not totally practicing. I don’t even remember my baptism. I feel your journey and this thread will benefit many, and I have many questions but I don’t want to derail it.
But even a baby baptism is a great blessing for the child I dont look down on it at all, in the kingdom of darkness witches curse babies at birth and dedicate them to satan, you were dedicated to God, I dont know exactly how you were baptised but sometimes certain baptisms are still considered valid and then you would just get Chrismated as an adult so that option is still open. Yes I have noticed that even in the Orthodox church the cradle Orthodox sometimes as adults they havent been catechised properly but that depends on the individual.
 
When you go home after the baptism you cant just take a shower you have to bath is a tub and collect all the water because of the blessed oil, you cant let it run into the sewers you have to pour the bath waters into the ground and even the clothes you were in must be washed this way and you not really supposed to wash your hair for 3 days after the baptism.
I was baptized 5 weeks ago and I didn't know any of this, after my baptism I went out for lunch with my family as well but as soon as I got home I took a shower, my hair is about 2 feet long so I'm sure you can imagine how it felt with all that oil in it.
I'm not going to sweat it so much, but it's interesting how practices and traditions in the Orthodox church differ from jurisdiction to jurisdiction and even simply parish to parish.

Glory to God for your baptism and reception into the Church!
God bless you my brother in Christ!
 
I was baptized 5 weeks ago and I didn't know any of this, after my baptism I went out for lunch with my family as well but as soon as I got home I took a shower, my hair is about 2 feet long so I'm sure you can imagine how it felt with all that oil in it.
I'm not going to sweat it so much, but it's interesting how practices and traditions in the Orthodox church differ from jurisdiction to jurisdiction and even simply parish to parish.

Glory to God for your baptism and reception into the Church!
God bless you my brother in Christ!
Congratulations to your baptism too my brother in Christ thats great! How did the catechuman process go for you? So the hair thing I only found out afterwards by another member of the church, I also had already washed my hair after 1 day not 3 but the bath water I kept and put in my garden. So all these little details Im sharing here I only found out literally days before the baptism I didnt know them before hand and the rest on the actual day. What Orthodox church are you part of?
 
Congratulations to your baptism too my brother in Christ thats great! How did the catechuman process go for you? So the hair thing I only found out afterwards by another member of the church, I also had already washed my hair after 1 day not 3 but the bath water I kept and put in my garden. So all these little details Im sharing here I only found out literally days before the baptism I didnt know them before hand and the rest on the actual day. What Orthodox church are you part of?
Thank you. I started inquiring two years ago last month and was made a catechumen about 8 or 9 months ago, though my catechism certainly began long before I was 'officially' a catechumen. There was a lot of one-on-one time talking to my priest, attending as many services as I can, as well as attending the orthodoxy classes he holds every fall and winter. I read a lot of books on my own time as well. There were a couple brief periods between 2 and 3 months long where I would stop going all together because I felt like I needed to briefly step away from the church and spend my time in prayer and reflection. The biggest stumbling blocks to the faith for me was how the church handled covid in my jurisdiction, as well as a less than warm welcoming laity at my parish, which is something I still struggle with.

I attend a GOARCH parish, under Metropolitan Gerasimos.
 
Thank you. I started inquiring two years ago last month and was made a catechumen about 8 or 9 months ago, though my catechism certainly began long before I was 'officially' a catechumen. There was a lot of one-on-one time talking to my priest, attending as many services as I can, as well as attending the orthodoxy classes he holds every fall and winter. I read a lot of books on my own time as well. There were a couple brief periods between 2 and 3 months long where I would stop going all together because I felt like I needed to briefly step away from the church and spend my time in prayer and reflection. The biggest stumbling blocks to the faith for me was how the church handled covid in my jurisdiction, as well as a less than warm welcoming laity at my parish, which is something I still struggle with.

I attend a GOARCH parish, under Metropolitan Gerasimos.
Oh ok I see, somw people reacted differently to the covid thing, so had to take orders from above, some priests who found out they did the wrong thing actually apologised afterwards so at least they repented for their mistakes thats fine. I also noticed that the laity in the Orthodox church are not as friendly as the people in the protestant churches but its a different situation their purpose for going to church is to worship God not so much the social thing and also the culture is different but once you get to know people then its another story, sometimes I enjoy having nobody bother me and to just be left alone in church. What I also enjoy observing in church as I like to watch the people, there are all kinds of people, rich, poor, weak, strong, young, old, happy, depressed, male, female, all kinds and yet they are all part of the body of Christ and we love each other despite of this, some are more serious in their faith others not, all are in different phases in their lives some in comfort others in hardship, one thing I do is to try observed without trying to pass judgement then it can be a beautiful thing
 
my hair is about 2 feet long so I'm sure you can imagine how it felt with all that oil in it.
It's not the hair that is the problem, it's the beard when goes that long : grin :

I've never heard of such a baptismal customs as the OP mentioned. I guess they vary from country to country. The Holy Orthodoxy has never suppressed local customs but adopted and enriched them, as long as they were not against the faith. And that is the kind of diversity we need. 💪
 
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Typically a priest will not baptize someone again, which means your first baptism was not in the name of the "Father, Son, and Holy Spirit"?
We do not recognize heterodox sacraments. That includes heterodox baptism, in 90% of cases. There are some pro-ecumenical Orthodox, including the clergy, who unfortunately recognize it, *unfortunately* as the Church is the body of Christ, sole and indivisible, and baptism is grafting onto it (John 15:5). It is a complex subject that I am not willing to discuss here. To anyone interested I recommend to read this:
"The Mystery of Baptism and the Unity of the Church - The Idea of “Baptismal Unity” and its Acceptance by Orthodox Ecumenists - by Fr. Peter Alban Heers" https://orthochristian.com/80888.html
 
We do not recognize heterodox sacraments. That includes heterodox baptism, in 90% of cases. There are some pro-ecumenical Orthodox, including the clergy, who unfortunately recognize it, *unfortunately* as the Church is the body of Christ, sole and indivisible, and baptism is grafting onto it (John 15:5). It is a complex subject that I am not willing to discuss here. To anyone interested I recommend to read this:
"The Mystery of Baptism and the Unity of the Church - The Idea of “Baptismal Unity” and its Acceptance by Orthodox Ecumenists - by Fr. Peter Alban Heers" https://orthochristian.com/80888.html

Who is Peter Heer's Bishop? He's hardly an authority.

Conversely St. Basil says anyone baptized in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit is grafted onto Christ. That's my authority, I couldn't care less about anything a guy with no Bishop says. The Church has always recognized such baptisms.

 
Who is Peter Heer's Bishop? He's hardly an authority.
That's undermining a good priest in order to make your point. He is also the spiritual son of the late Elder Ephraim. You are knowingly or unknowingly using the exact same arguments that Public Orthodoxy et al use. And they use them not because they care about authority but because they want to undermine it to push their own anti-Church agenda. Fr Peter's situation is indeed in flux through no fault of his own. He was canonically released to ROCOR from his Greek Bishop when he moved back to the US. This was approved by the late Metropolitan Hilarion. After his passing it appears certain pressure has been put on ROCOR to review/deny his acceptance. These things take time to resolve, it doesn't mean he's not a priest. We should be able to discuss these matters without making insinuations and undermining those we disagree with.
 
That's undermining a good priest in order to make your point. He is also the spiritual son of the late Elder Ephraim. You are knowingly or unknowingly using the exact same arguments that Public Orthodoxy et al use. And they use them not because they care about authority but because they want to undermine it to push their own anti-Church agenda. Fr Peter's situation is indeed in flux through no fault of his own. He was canonically released to ROCOR from his Greek Bishop when he moved back to the US. This was approved by the late Metropolitan Hilarion. After his passing it appears certain pressure has been put on ROCOR to review/deny his acceptance. These things take time to resolve, it doesn't mean he's not a priest. We should be able to discuss these matters without making insinuations and undermining those we disagree with.

He's not a priest. If he's not under a Bishop, then he's not anymore of a Presbyter than you or I.

The idea that there is some kind of conspiracy to prevent Peter from being accepted by a Bishop I find to be highly suspect. If anyone portrays themselves as a martyr from the Church's own clergy, without any evidence, then my first instinct to call a lie a lie.

I've known plenty of controversial Priests who have had no problem being ordained, including YouTuber Presbyters such as Fr. Trenham.

I know a Presbyter who is an official Admin in the Jay Dyer discord, next to Peter Heers, who is ordained under a Bishop I know, and he had no problem being ordained. Under my own Bishop, I've known Presbyters who range from super liberal to super conservative. My Bishop hardly cares about politics because he is a good Bishop, even though he is a very conservative man himself.

If someone has trouble being ordained, then it is because of one of many potential reasons:

- Criminal record that is undisclosed
- Heretical views
- Massive debts
- Something else ugly.

I'm sorry, but until Peter Heers is ordained, there's no reason to trust him nor is there any reason to hold him as an authority. His views on Baptism contradict my Bishop and contradict the Holy Fathers. If he's pushing heresy then of course he won't be ordained because no one is allowed to contradict Holy Dogma.
 
He's not a priest. If he's not under a Bishop, then he's not anymore of a Presbyter than you or I.

The idea that there is some kind of conspiracy to prevent Peter from being accepted by a Bishop I find to be highly suspect. If anyone portrays themselves as a martyr from the Church's own clergy, without any evidence, then my first instinct to call a lie a lie.

I've known plenty of controversial Priests who have had no problem being ordained, including YouTuber Presbyters such as Fr. Trenham.

I know a Presbyter who is an official Admin in the Jay Dyer discord, next to Peter Heers, who is ordained under a Bishop I know, and he had no problem being ordained. Under my own Bishop, I've known Presbyters who range from super liberal to super conservative. My Bishop hardly cares about politics because he is a good Bishop, even though he is a very conservative man himself.

If someone has trouble being ordained, then it is because of one of many potential reasons:

- Criminal record that is undisclosed
- Heretical views
- Massive debts
- Something else ugly.

I'm sorry, but until Peter Heers is ordained, there's no reason to trust him nor is there any reason to hold him as an authority. His views on Baptism contradict my Bishop and contradict the Holy Fathers. If he's pushing heresy then of course he won't be ordained because no one is allowed to contradict Holy Dogma.
I think you're over your skis here...

My priest has spoken highly of Fr. Heers, attended many retreats with him, and recommended his videos and works.

It seems his issues are church politics. I think you need to be careful with your proclamations.
 
We do not recognize heterodox sacraments. That includes heterodox baptism, in 90% of cases. There are some pro-ecumenical Orthodox, including the clergy, who unfortunately recognize it, *unfortunately* as the Church is the body of Christ, sole and indivisible, and baptism is grafting onto it (John 15:5). It is a complex subject that I am not willing to discuss here. To anyone interested I recommend to read this:
"The Mystery of Baptism and the Unity of the Church - The Idea of “Baptismal Unity” and its Acceptance by Orthodox Ecumenists - by Fr. Peter Alban Heers" https://orthochristian.com/80888.html
I know another young guy in my country who was baptised in another province (state) under the Russians ans before he became Orthodox he was baptised x3 different times, one of them in the morman faith but they still made him get fully baptised to become Orthodox👍🏻
 
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